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  • VagitronV Vagitron

    @hoorta said:

    Well, based on a little research- don't be surprised if Cribbs walks after this year. He's making 1\2 of what Devin Hester makes- and it's debatable as to who's the better KR. Hester might be a slightly better WR, but so what. Either Hester is seriously overpaid, or Josh is way underpaid. You decide.

    Here's the new pay scale if you're interested.

    NFL New minimum Wage Scale

    Cribbs would get paid $810k, regardless. Best not to get overly sentimental about a particular player- Bill Belichick doesn't.

    Cribbs is not Devin Hester. Hester may be the best returner of all time and already holds a few records and believe me I'm a Cribbs fan. I went to Kent State, watched him at Kent State. Hell I had a few classes with him at Kent State. There is no debate when comparing the two. It's Hester and then the others.

    Homotron said:

    Cribbs is not Devin Hester. Hester may be the best returner of all time and already holds a few records and believe me I'm a Cribbs fan. I went to Kent State, watched him at Kent State. Hell I had a few classes with him at Kent State. There is no debate when comparing the two. It's Hester and then the others.

    The record holder for most Kickoff returns in a career is held by Mr. Joshua Cribbs. Not by Devin Hester. Hester has a few more punt returns for TDs. Cribbs had one PR for TD last year.

    Needless to say, the new kickoff rules dampered both players return stats.

  • I acutally think Cribbs had his best year as a WR whether the numbers back that up or not I don't know.

    I'll echo what was said- 1) low cap number and 2) playing for his next contract this year.

    Cribbs at this point is not going to fetch you much in a trade. Brandon Marshall didn't get Denver much and he's a #1 WR.

    We need a veteran presence as well. When folks on here were crying for trade downs and more draft picks- I personally didn't want to kick off the new season with 15-17 first year rookies many of which would make the team.

    Am I missing something did we sign Vincent Jackson and draft Blackmon? We need Cribbs.

  • Comparative career stats:

    Hester Age 29 D.O.B 11/4/1982 entering 7th year in NFL

    Punt Returns: 206 returns for 2654 yds. and 12 TDs

    KO Returns: 146 returns for 3447 yds and 5 TDs

    Receiving: 194 rec. for 2565 yards, a 13.2 ypc with 13 TDs

    Rushing: 27 carries for 74 yards

    Cribbs: Age 28 D.O.B 6/9/1983 entering 8th year in NFL

    Punt returns: 157 for 1697 yds and 3 TDs

    KO Returns: 344 returns for 8837 yds and 8 TDs

    Receiving: 100 rec. for 1098 yds, an 11.0 ypc with 7 TDs (4 came in 2011)

    Rushing: 122 carries for 711 yards and 2 TDs

    Something a bit odd here: Hester is a year older, but has been in the league 1 year less than Cribbs.

    It seems that for some time anyway, Cribbs may not have been used as the Browns primary punt returner.

    I can only surmise that the Browns porous defense over the years has caused the vast disparity among the number of KO returns that Cribbs has compared to Hester...unless Hester has not been used as a primary KO returner.

    Hester has been use more as a WR, where Cribbs has been use far more as a RB.

    But, in terms of their age: why is it that people see Cribbs as being past his prime where Hester is not? Hester is older. Is it the one year difference in playing?

  • The guy isn't getting paid that much in terms of NFL players. He's still great on special teams from returns to tackling. Let's see what he does with Weeden tossing the ball.

    If anything else, try him out at Safety and see what happens there.

    BadNewsBrownsB 1 Reply

  • I think it's because Hester has six touchdowns for returns over the past two season versus Cribbs one.

    Hester has always been a speedy elusive guy while Cribbs was more of a power straight line runner.

    Hester is a smaller guy and his speed will last longer while Cribbs is 200+ pounds and seems to have added weight over the years and was never a burner to begin with.

    Hester can afford to lose a step and still be effective while Cribbs cannot.

    "All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer
    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • USFBrownU USFBrown

    The guy isn't getting paid that much in terms of NFL players. He's still great on special teams from returns to tackling. Let's see what he does with Weeden tossing the ball.

    If anything else, try him out at Safety and see what happens there.

    @usfbrown said:

    The guy isn't getting paid that much in terms of NFL players. He's still great on special teams from returns to tackling. Let's see what he does with Weeden tossing the ball.

    If anything else, try him out at Safety and see what happens there.

    I think the Browns have done a horrible job of utilizing him over the years.

    I think he could of possibly been a great safety but it's too late now to transition him.

    He could of been great as a mini h-back motioning him out of the back field on swing passes.

    They were never consistent at getting him the ball in space, but Cribbs as your #1 threat is still sad.

    With legitimate offensive weapons around him he'd shine, he's always been a gimmicky guy on a bad team.

    "All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer
  • BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns

    I think it's because Hester has six touchdowns for returns over the past two season versus Cribbs one.

    Hester has always been a speedy elusive guy while Cribbs was more of a power straight line runner.

    Hester is a smaller guy and his speed will last longer while Cribbs is 200+ pounds and seems to have added weight over the years and was never a burner to begin with.

    Hester can afford to lose a step and still be effective while Cribbs cannot.

    @badnewsbrowns said:

    I think it's because Hester has six touchdowns for returns over the past two season versus Cribbs one.

    Hester has always been a speedy elusive guy while Cribbs was more of a power straight line runner.

    Hester is a smaller guy and his speed will last longer while Cribbs is 200+ pounds and seems to have added weight over the years and was never a burner to begin with.

    Hester can afford to lose a step and still be effective while Cribbs cannot.

    Actually, I believe just the opposite. When the small, elusive guy loses a step he often loses that elusiveness that allowed him to avoid tacklers. Then he is just another smurf getting pounded to the turf. (I'm a poet and I know it).

    The "meatier" guy like Cribbs may in fact be better able to lose a step...as long as it is not too steps. When Cribbs was working around a hamstring pull he lost too many steps to be effective. If Hester had a similar hammy pull, he too might even be less effective.

  • for 1.4 million, we can have Cribbs as our 3rd string QB and get rid of Seneca wallace (sarcasm)

  • D DieselPusher

    for 1.4 million, we can have Cribbs as our 3rd string QB and get rid of Seneca wallace (sarcasm)

    @dieselpusher said:

    for 1.4 million, we can have Cribbs as our 3rd string QB and get rid of Seneca wallace (sarcasm)

    let you be sarcastic all you want but i'd do that in a heart beat. i know every football purist will say he is no way near an nfl caliber QB etc. etc. BUT like a poster above has said the browns totally blew it in the way they've utilized his talents on the team.

    imean he WAS a starting QB at kent state. has he even thrown a pass in his career with the browns? totally under used with no a total lack of offensive scheming for a guy back in his heyday could've done so much more.

    oh yeah. hey seneca: GO FUCK YOURSELF!

  • fwiw it was the four dislocated toes Cribbs tried to play through that derailed his 2010 stats.

    he scored that 2011 punt return TD with the pulled hammy...so it can be argued even injured he's more effective than a lot of guys.

  • Cribbs is the man! He's been thrilling for years and I'm so glad we have him. It's really to early to speculate what we should do with him at the end of a year that hasn't started yet. Did I mention he's da man?

  • it would be stupid to let him go. he means so much to the organization. and he is a fan favorite. In my opinion he has to go down as one of the greatest Browns "players" in the history of the team.

  • A AlanClaude

    it would be stupid to let him go. he means so much to the organization. and he is a fan favorite. In my opinion he has to go down as one of the greatest Browns "players" in the history of the team.

    @alanclaude said:

    it would be stupid to let him go. he means so much to the organization. and he is a fan favorite. In my opinion he has to go down as one of the greatest Browns "players" in the history of the team.

    that's a bit of a stretch. don't get me wrong, i love the guy, but i would put eric metcalf above him.

  • yeah...he'll always be apart of browns lore....very memorable player. probably savages highlight. however, to say he is one of the browns greats severely diminishes the others.

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