Art Modell Dead at age 83

ATENEARS

First person who posts this true information (when it happens) gets to be a Moderator here for a day.

BOSSY

He'll go out a winner no matter what you say or do or think.

ATENEARS

@inspecta said:
I hate you so much right now stan

You just wish you thought of such a subject title.

Isn't kind of cute that we finally found the only Ravens fan on the net? Bossy's Mom will be home from work though soon, so hurry and get your shots in on him.

BOSSY

@bossy said:
He'll go out a winner no matter what you say or do or think.

No, he'll go out a whore - no matter what YOU say or think.

WVBrownsfan

http://www.ridertown.com/news/MDW/MDW.html

Mr. T

NFL Waiting Patiently For Art Modell To Die

http://deadspin.com/sports/nfl/waiting-pat...-die-198332.php

SoCalBrownsFan

@mr.-t said:
NFL Waiting Patiently For Art Modell To Die
http://deadspin.com/sports/nfl/waiting-pat...-die-198332.php

And here is the link to the page they are referencing in this link from T.

Linkage

I will have to add that link to my favorites.

I wish the title of this thread were true.

GO TO HELL MODELL!!!

ATENEARS

@atenears said:
First person who posts this true information (when it happens) gets to be a Moderator here for a day.

It will be a sad day for football and a sad day for true Browns fans.

The city and citizens of Cleveland are the major culprits for Art leaving.

Dems Da facts.

Ps - Only owner to win NFL championships in two different cities.

AUTOMATIC HOF entry on the FIRST BALLOT.

ATENEARS

@atenears said:
You just wish you thought of such a subject title.
Isn't kind of cute that we finally found the only Ravens fan on the net? Bossy's Mom will be home from work though soon, so hurry and get your shots in on him.

http://www.ridertown.com/news/MDW/lombardi_trophyw.jpg

Guest

@ghoolie said:
The city and citizens of Cleveland are the major culprits for Art leaving.
Dems Da facts.

AUTOMATIC HOF entry on the FIRST BALLOT.

Those are not the facts Ghoolie. You should read more. The city and the fans were never the major culprit of Art leaving. His inability to run his own business and manage his money were the major culprit.

Automatic HOF entry on the first ballot? So is that why he has now been passed over on what, 2 ballots now.

roach

Masters said:
Those are not the facts Ghoolie. You should read more. The city and the fans were never the major culprit of Art leaving. His inability to run his own business and manage his money were the major culprit.

Sorry Masters, Ghoolie got this one right.

Modell was backed into a corner and driven out by city leadership. If you want a fact based account of what happened in that era, read the book Fumble by Michael G. Poplar.

hammertime

yadayadayda

City screws Modell

Modell screws Cleveland

Realize by this time you would have had his genious son at the controls had he stayed.

When there is big money involved there are politicians involved, there was some serios screwing going on and Modell hate him or not had the final FU to the powers that be. Unfortunatly the fans took the hit.

I don't like him but i certainly do not wish death on someone who refuses to lay down to the man.

Tobalaz

Art was made the scapegoat.

Grant it he wasn't the best owner, he did A LOT of things that ticked many of us off.

The city thought the Browns would never leave so they stuck him with a shitty lease on a stadium he had to pay repairs on constantly because it was falling apart and the city wouldn't help with those repairs.

Then the city built a big shiny new stadium for the Tribe and the OTHER guys who had been splitting repair costs packed up and moved out and Arty had no one else to split repair costs with.

Like I said, it's not 100% Art's fault here, we just like to put a face to why we lost our Browns.

roach

@tobalaz said:
Art was made the scapegoat.
Grant it he wasn't the best owner, he did A LOT of things that ticked many of us off.

The city thought the Browns would never leave so they stuck him with a shitty lease on a stadium he had to pay repairs on constantly because it was falling apart and the city wouldn't help with those repairs.

Then the city built a big shiny new stadium for the Tribe and the OTHER guys who had been splitting repair costs packed up and moved out and Arty had no one else to split repair costs with.

Like I said, it's not 100% Art's fault here, we just like to put a face to why we lost our Browns.

This is the Cliffs Notes version, but a pretty accurate summary.

Mr. T

@atenears said:
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does this work?

BrownsFan4Evr

You know, I was just as upset as the rest of you, (maybe more, I've been a Browns fan since 1963), when the Browns left in '96, but I'd never wish anyone DEAD, or make fun of them dying, over a sports team.

Rocky20

I dont care what he did to the fans - this is a classless post man. I hate the guy too, probably not as much as you do, but still pretty damn classless.

acidhead

@mr.-t said:
does this work?

Damn it this got my hopes up. I hated it when he moved the Browns, as it was a great and respected rivalry. Plus, as a fan I can understand how heartwrenching it would be to lose my team.

How can any Brown's fan EVER root for the ratbirds, even against the Steelers?

roach

@roach said:
Sorry Masters, Ghoolie got this one right.
Modell was backed into a corner and driven out by city leadership. If you want a fact based account of what happened in that era, read the book Fumble by Michael G. Poplar.

Model wanted Cleveland Municipal Stadium renovated, and he came up with his own plan. Cuyahoga County then put the proposal on the November, 1995 ballot. Just a few days before the vote, Modell announced he was moving the team to Baltimore. If he had waited for the vote, and the measure had passed, he would have had nearly $200 million in improvements to the stadium -- which was what he stated he wanted all along. But instead, he signed the deal with Baltimore without giving his community a chance to fund his project.

Furthermore, the County had put the issue on the ballot in 1995, when the Indians had just started playing at Jacobs Field in 1994. So it's not as though Modell had been ignored for an inordinate period of time.

Modell publically rejected being involved in the Gateway project (which was the downtown project that brought the new baseball stadium and basketball arena to down town) saying that he preferred to stay at Cleveland Municipal Stadium.

There was a reason that part of his move Modell had to sell part of his ownership and have the clause that made him give up 99% of by 2001 (might have been 2002). Dude needed money because he couldn't manage his money.

The city wasn't clean of not moving, but Modell wanted his money and wanted it his way, or no way. Greed by Art was the major factor.

Riffer X

Bottom line is he should have sold.

His greed was keeping his femmy son involved even though he was a blithering idget. Art could have let the team go, but he couldn't let it go from his family-----er Davey.

Then he turned around and let all control go anyway.

It was a pissing match, cause he could have sold the team to Lerner (or many others) and been kept on in some capacity. The real on this is he couldn't stand the Browns being the face of Cleveland and him being so important yet not getting everybody to bend over for him. It ate him up to see the Cavs and Tribe get their facilities, especially given that Richfield was only 20 years old and still nice. For years he bitched about "just getting his bathrooms fixed" but in reality he wanted everything.

Everything meant a new stadium funded completely by the city and the taxpayers built exactly under his terms and how he wanted it, regardless of his inept money management and lack of diplomacy. Arty thought he was God in Cleveland and wanted treated as such. It also explains why Davey was such a complete and total tool filled with self importance even though he was a Retard.

I've read several books on this and followed the story in every circle. There is no other conclusion in my mind, and when someone like Pluto condemns you, you fooked up. Drew Carey's book is intriguing and points to Pat Modell being the biggest twat this side of Nancy Reagan in her heyday. Drew used to wait tables at some of the elite restaurants downtown and had his fill of dealing with that washed up diva. The Modells spent money they just didn't have and did it for years. He chose to live the life of a billionaire like Lerner but in reality wasn't anything close to it. When you have to borrow $5 mil to sign a douche like Rison you done blew your money.