Lets Talk About T Rich
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Maybe they could have tried running outside once or twice instead of straight up the fucking middle.
Agreed but I still don't see how that translates into Richardson's problem.
Agreed but I still don't see how that translates into Richardson's problem.
It's his problem because he sucked today. You think he doesn't care that he sucked?
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Jesus... the guy is playing his first game in a long time, just came off knee surgery, and had 3+ defenders in the back field every run.
He didn't have a chance to juke or make a move. Give him a decent o line and some time. Then make some judgements.
Jesus... the guy is playing his first game in a long time, just came off knee surgery, and had 3+ defenders in the back field every run.
He didn't have a chance to juke or make a move. Give him a decent o line and some time. Then make some judgements.
You can say nearly the same about weeden.
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Agreed but I still don't see how that translates into Richardson's problem.
It's his problem because he sucked today. You think he doesn't care that he sucked?
It's his problem because he sucked today. You think he doesn't care that he sucked?
Ok you literally just said that he got no push from the O-Line and the coaches didn't call any runs to the outside which would have been his ONLY chance and yet he still sucks. No he did not have a good game but that is on the O-Line and play calling. Got hit in the backfield on 95% of his run plays. But your right he sucks he played terrible.
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It's his problem because he sucked today. You think he doesn't care that he sucked?
Ok you literally just said that he got no push from the O-Line and the coaches didn't call any runs to the outside which would have been his ONLY chance and yet he still sucks. No he did not have a good game but that is on the O-Line and play calling. Got hit in the backfield on 95% of his run plays. But your right he sucks he played terrible.
Ok you literally just said that he got no push from the O-Line and the coaches didn't call any runs to the outside which would have been his ONLY chance and yet he still sucks. No he did not have a good game but that is on the O-Line and play calling. Got hit in the backfield on 95% of his run plays. But your right he sucks he played terrible.
You're confused I said nothing about the oline. I said he sucked and he looked crappy and they should have let him go outside.
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Ok you literally just said that he got no push from the O-Line and the coaches didn't call any runs to the outside which would have been his ONLY chance and yet he still sucks. No he did not have a good game but that is on the O-Line and play calling. Got hit in the backfield on 95% of his run plays. But your right he sucks he played terrible.
You're confused I said nothing about the oline. I said he sucked and he looked crappy and they should have let him go outside.
You're confused I said nothing about the oline. I said he sucked and he looked crappy and they should have let him go outside.
So the O-Line had a good game. Got a lot of push on those run plays then. It was Richardson letting the guys come in and grab him in the backfield. What game were you watching?
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You're confused I said nothing about the oline. I said he sucked and he looked crappy and they should have let him go outside.
So the O-Line had a good game. Got a lot of push on those run plays then. It was Richardson letting the guys come in and grab him in the backfield. What game were you watching?
So the O-Line had a good game. Got a lot of push on those run plays then. It was Richardson letting the guys come in and grab him in the backfield. What game were you watching?
Watching? None. I was laying pergo on the floor. I was just listening to it in the background. Look whatever excuses you want to make for him he sucked. Bottom line. Will he always suck? Maybe not but he didn't come off as anything special today. The offense as a whole sucked. Better? But he did suck a lot.
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wait, you mean a your rookie RB with knee problems might not run for 1500+ yrds and 20+ TD's this season? or your rookie QB didn't come in and toss 350yrds and 5TDs in his debut?
you don't say.
with all i've heard about Big Ben being a rapist and i go to a online sex offender registry and look up cleveland and Pittsburgh and what do i find? cleveland has a CRAP load more sex offenders (and expecially child molesters) than Pittsburgh.......over 4X as many over all. 2055 of them to Pittsburgh's 421. www.familywatchdog.us better never hear one of you date raping, can't get a woman with my tiny peep unless i hold her down, child molesting hypocrits say anything else about Ben. -
So the O-Line had a good game. Got a lot of push on those run plays then. It was Richardson letting the guys come in and grab him in the backfield. What game were you watching?
Watching? None. I was laying pergo on the floor. I was just listening to it in the background. Look whatever excuses you want to make for him he sucked. Bottom line. Will he always suck? Maybe not but he didn't come off as anything special today. The offense as a whole sucked. Better? But he did suck a lot.
Watching? None. I was laying pergo on the floor. I was just listening to it in the background. Look whatever excuses you want to make for him he sucked. Bottom line. Will he always suck? Maybe not but he didn't come off as anything special today. The offense as a whole sucked. Better? But he did suck a lot.
If you actually watched the game you would know who the fault lies with. He's a hint. O-Line.
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Yes its always the oline. They're easy targets. Why does every other oline in the NFL always look better? Our oline has at least two pro bowlers
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Yes its always the oline. They're easy targets. Why does every other oline in the NFL always look better? Our oline has at least two pro bowlers
Yes its always the oline. They're easy targets. Why does every other oline in the NFL always look better? Our oline has at least two pro bowlers
Then who do you blame for there always being 2+ defenders in the backfield when he gets the ball?
Its offensive line and mostly coaching. Its bad when you have mostly 1 & 2 rounders on the o line and they cant run block worth a damn.
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Yes its always the oline. They're easy targets. Why does every other oline in the NFL always look better? Our oline has at least two pro bowlers
Yes its always the oline. They're easy targets. Why does every other oline in the NFL always look better? Our oline has at least two pro bowlers
Cause every team doesn't hide the fact that they have O-Line problems like our coaches do. How many years have we heard that Lauvou is improving and have seen the exact opposite happen. It was the O-Line, it was obvious. Now if Richardson was constantly getting past the O-Line and was was only getting 2ish yards cause he couldn't get past LB and DB I would agree more. But when the O-Line can't push the 30th ranked run defense in the NFL that scares the shit out of me.
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Yes its always the oline. They're easy targets. Why does every other oline in the NFL always look better? Our oline has at least two pro bowlers
Cause every team doesn't hide the fact that they have O-Line problems like our coaches do. How many years have we heard that Lauvou is improving and have seen the exact opposite happen. It was the O-Line, it was obvious. Now if Richardson was constantly getting past the O-Line and was was only getting 2ish yards cause he couldn't get past LB and DB I would agree more. But when the O-Line can't push the 30th ranked run defense in the NFL that scares the shit out of me.
Cause every team doesn't hide the fact that they have O-Line problems like our coaches do. How many years have we heard that Lauvou is improving and have seen the exact opposite happen. It was the O-Line, it was obvious. Now if Richardson was constantly getting past the O-Line and was was only getting 2ish yards cause he couldn't get past LB and DB I would agree more. But when the O-Line can't push the 30th ranked run defense in the NFL that scares the shit out of me.
Im not sure where you're going. Whether or not they hide it, how can our line be as bad as all that? How can our line year after year after year make the qb and the rb be awful?
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Doesn't matter how good the oline is. It is simple numbers. They had 9 guys in a box we had 7 blockers. They don't respect our passing game.
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Oh but weeden can't pass. He's got no time its the oline /sarcasm
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I thought T-Rich was actually really good for his first time...absolutely no issues...picked up the blocks well, dropped a few ala Owen Mesucka dong dong...now Weeden...should not be in the NFL. His brain is just not able to process information fast enough.He is a great guy no issues just please god if he is 0-10 TD to INT we have to pull him.
We don't want to hear Pat say that he was a rookie and the ball was dropped to many times and it was windy so the ball sailed 20 feet over the receivers head or it was so sunny that he couldn't see a wide open Watson in the endzone.
This was the worst performance of a potential starting quarterback in the history of football.
I honestly can't believe Pat said he looked solid out there and didn't seemed fazed. yes, he looked like a damn rock. couldn't avoid pressure, couldn't throw the ball because he was a rock, actually he looked more like a fossil...but that's ok becaue he looked solid and calm under pressure. He looked like a damn reindeer who got lost and landed in Miami Beach.
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Seriously what the hell do you expect him to do? Our offense is so obviously scripted a 8 year can tell you what we're running. Not to mention every run is an ISO up the middle into 9-10 man fronts. Jesus could have suited up and only ran for 50 yards.
So let's get this straight...Richardson gets a pass for being crap, but weeden doesn't? They both sucked and had better start trying to get better.
Phil Dawson is the guy again. Why don't I have his jersy? He's the only guy that can do anything.
So let's get this straight...Richardson gets a pass for being crap, but weeden doesn't? They both sucked and had better start trying to get better.
Phil Dawson is the guy again. Why don't I have his jersy? He's the only guy that can do anything.
Trent is less to blame IMO because he was ran up the middle. One time he bumped outside cause there was NOTHING for him to go through. And he did turn a few runs into a couple of yards. But the O-line and Shurmur's horrible play calling takes more blame.
Weeden blew 2 TD passes by over throwing all day long. This from a guy that we constantly heard how friggin' accurate he was all during training camp. These were TD's. We should have had 14 more points on the board and won this game. Trent didn't have an opportunity like Weeden did, period.
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A good back would have redirected at least once or twice and made something out of nothing. Are we the worst oline in the NFL since 99? Because as of this moment right now, Richardson included we have never had a back that could do shit.
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A good back would have redirected at least once or twice and made something out of nothing. Are we the worst oline in the NFL since 99? Because as of this moment right now, Richardson included we have never had a back that could do shit.
A good back would have redirected at least once or twice and made something out of nothing. Are we the worst oline in the NFL since 99? Because as of this moment right now, Richardson included we have never had a back that could do shit.
There was nothing inventive about the run plays. Plus, we rarely stretched the field. Defenses load up the box and your not going to run. The play calling did not help us at all.
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No it clearly didn't.
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We stretched the field twice... both resulted in INT's by Cromartie who covered Benjamin like a blanket.
Philly completely disregarded our passing attack (justifiably) and stacked the box... they even narrowed their wide-9 D to stuff the run. Even Jim Brown would have looked bad today.
TR wasn't 100%, if for no other reason, because he missed the entire preseason. I'm not worried about him.
Five linemen can't block 7 guys... I'm not worried about them.
I'm worried about a receiver corps that showed next to zero ability to separate from coverage.
I'm worried about our one read wonder of a "rookie" QB who will throw to his primary regardless of how well covered they are... and miss them when they are wide open to boot.
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