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That's not their fault. Blame the selfish owners.
While it's the owners fault for locking out the refs the replacements didn't need to take the jobs. They did and they didn't prepare. I'm not going to give them a pass when they obviously haven't put in the work.
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Found this link to the 28 worst calls by the official last weekend. 5 or 6 where from the browns game http://deadspin.com/5944976/theyre-getting-worse-not-better-here-are-the-28-worst-replacement-official-mistakes-from-week-2
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That's not their fault. Blame the selfish owners.
While it's the owners fault for locking out the refs the replacements didn't need to take the jobs. They did and they didn't prepare. I'm not going to give them a pass when they obviously haven't put in the work.
While it's the owners fault for locking out the refs the replacements didn't need to take the jobs. They did and they didn't prepare. I'm not going to give them a pass when they obviously haven't put in the work.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. They didn't have time to prepare. The decision to go with replacements was probably made right before the first week of the preseason. You're telling me that if you're a high school or NCAA Div. III ref, you're not going to say yes if Roger Goodell asks if you want to ref football at the highest level? Please. And if you think a month is enough time to prepare for this, you're absolutely nuts. The refs were put into that position by Goodell and the owners and they're doing the best they can. Is it enough? No, absolutely not, but blame should fall on those in charge that are letting this situation happen.
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I think you guys are being a little narrow-minded.
First, if the regular refs were in we'd be bitching and complaining just as much about calls. These guys are doing an admirable job, all things considering, and you have to remember it is not the refs fault for being in this situation.
Second, the coaches and players need to trust the calls a little more. Perfect example was in the Broncos game last Monday when John Fox threw two challenge flags in the first quarter... what happened? He lost both of them because the refs got it right on the field. It wasn't their fault that he wasted both challenge flags so quickly.
Third, the regular refs are locked out because their demands are WAYYYY too high. These guys get paid admirably for what they do. Asking for a few more million is okay with me, but asking for a pension when you are working PART-TIME / SEASONAL is just f***ing crazy to me. Look at their salaries... I think they need to just get back to work before they lose their jobs permanently.
Lastly, the flow of the game is slightly delayed and it is frustrating, which is a big negative. However, a positive I see is that they are allowing players to play. We have seen less tick-tack 15-yard penalties this year than in the past couple years. They are letting guys hit each other and allowing a little pushing and shoving between plays. I personally LOVE that part of what is going on. I think a 15 yard penalty for shoving a WR on the other team is just plain insane. The only time it got out of hand was last Monday when they should have thrown a flag.
Overall, there are positives and negatives, but guess what...? We all keep watching...
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I think you guys are being a little narrow-minded.
First, if the regular refs were in we'd be bitching and complaining just as much about calls. These guys are doing an admirable job, all things considering, and you have to remember it is not the refs fault for being in this situation.
Second, the coaches and players need to trust the calls a little more. Perfect example was in the Broncos game last Monday when John Fox threw two challenge flags in the first quarter... what happened? He lost both of them because the refs got it right on the field. It wasn't their fault that he wasted both challenge flags so quickly.
Third, the regular refs are locked out because their demands are WAYYYY too high. These guys get paid admirably for what they do. Asking for a few more million is okay with me, but asking for a pension when you are working PART-TIME / SEASONAL is just f***ing crazy to me. Look at their salaries... I think they need to just get back to work before they lose their jobs permanently.
Lastly, the flow of the game is slightly delayed and it is frustrating, which is a big negative. However, a positive I see is that they are allowing players to play. We have seen less tick-tack 15-yard penalties this year than in the past couple years. They are letting guys hit each other and allowing a little pushing and shoving between plays. I personally LOVE that part of what is going on. I think a 15 yard penalty for shoving a WR on the other team is just plain insane. The only time it got out of hand was last Monday when they should have thrown a flag.
Overall, there are positives and negatives, but guess what...? We all keep watching...
Lastly, the flow of the game is slightly delayed and it is frustrating, which is a big negative. However, a positive I see is that they are allowing players to play. We have seen less tick-tack 15-yard penalties this year than in the past couple years. They are letting guys hit each other and allowing a little pushing and shoving between plays. I personally LOVE that part of what is going on. I think a 15 yard penalty for shoving a WR on the other team is just plain insane. The only time it got out of hand was last Monday when they should have thrown a flag.
Overall, there are positives and negatives, but guess what...? We all keep watching...
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Anyways, I disagree with you about the pushing and shoving. It's not the refs allowing the players to play, it's the refs being to afraid to lose control of the game by throwing a flag for a personal foul. Seriously, I want to watch football, not a fight (though these scuffles have been more entertaining than what the WBO can offer *cough* Pacquiao/Bradley *cough*), and honestly I think there should have been some ejections on Monday Night. That shit, when it gets out of control, is detrimental to the game. However, I do believe that if these refs ejected a player on the home team, they'd lose control of the stadium.
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While it's the owners fault for locking out the refs the replacements didn't need to take the jobs. They did and they didn't prepare. I'm not going to give them a pass when they obviously haven't put in the work.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. They didn't have time to prepare. The decision to go with replacements was probably made right before the first week of the preseason. You're telling me that if you're a high school or NCAA Div. III ref, you're not going to say yes if Roger Goodell asks if you want to ref football at the highest level? Please. And if you think a month is enough time to prepare for this, you're absolutely nuts. The refs were put into that position by Goodell and the owners and they're doing the best they can. Is it enough? No, absolutely not, but blame should fall on those in charge that are letting this situation happen.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. They didn't have time to prepare. The decision to go with replacements was probably made right before the first week of the preseason. You're telling me that if you're a high school or NCAA Div. III ref, you're not going to say yes if Roger Goodell asks if you want to ref football at the highest level? Please. And if you think a month is enough time to prepare for this, you're absolutely nuts. The refs were put into that position by Goodell and the owners and they're doing the best they can. Is it enough? No, absolutely not, but blame should fall on those in charge that are letting this situation happen.
Do I expect them to make every call on rules they just learned 6 weeks ago? No. Hell regular refs are just getting used to calling helmet to helmet rules and things like that. Do I expect them to know simple things like stopping the clock at the right time and splitting up fights? YES! They should have been doing that stuff at what ever level they reffed and they are failing. As I said Goodell gave them a great opportunity to make extra money and show the NFL what they can do in case a future position becomes available but they are squandering their chance.
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I've heard the big bone of contention is the NFL wants to go with full time Refs- and the Refs are resisting. Of course they will. Most of the "regulars" have jobs that allow them to get away for the weekend and do their other thing. Like lawyers and accountants. Who wouldn't fight to keep the status quo on a cushy part time job that pays travel, hotel reimbursements and with a salary in a lot of cases over $100,000? Hell, I'll quit my full-time job right now for a gig like that.
And shame on the NFL. Flacco said it was all about the integrity of the game. Goodell & crew should see by now using minor league officials in the big time is a bad idea, and the integrity of the game IS being compromised. What they pay officials is pissing in the ocean compared to the NFL's total revenue stream.
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I've heard the big bone of contention is the NFL wants to go with full time Refs- and the Refs are resisting. Of course they will. Most of the "regulars" have jobs that allow them to get away for the weekend and do their other thing. Like lawyers and accountants. Who wouldn't fight to keep the status quo on a cushy part time job that pays travel, hotel reimbursements and with a salary in a lot of cases over $100,000? Hell, I'll quit my full-time job right now for a gig like that.
And shame on the NFL. Flacco said it was all about the integrity of the game. Goodell & crew should see by now using minor league officials in the big time is a bad idea, and the integrity of the game IS being compromised. What they pay officials is pissing in the ocean compared to the NFL's total revenue stream.
I've heard the big bone of contention is the NFL wants to go with full time Refs- and the Refs are resisting. Of course they will. Most of the "regulars" have jobs that allow them to get away for the weekend and do their other thing. Like lawyers and accountants. Who wouldn't fight to keep the status quo on a cushy part time job that pays travel, hotel reimbursements and with a salary in a lot of cases over $100,000? Hell, I'll quit my full-time job right now for a gig like that.
And shame on the NFL. Flacco said it was all about the integrity of the game. Goodell & crew should see by now using minor league officials in the big time is a bad idea, and the integrity of the game IS being compromised. What they pay officials is pissing in the ocean compared to the NFL's total revenue stream.
If the NFL is paying them 100,000 grand for working part time half the year then wouldn't you expect to get paid MUCH more if they tried to make you work full time all year?
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Found this link to the 28 worst calls by the official last weekend. 5 or 6 where from the browns game http://deadspin.com/5944976/theyre-getting-worse-not-better-here-are-the-28-worst-replacement-official-mistakes-from-week-2
Found this link to the 28 worst calls by the official last weekend. 5 or 6 where from the browns game http://deadspin.com/5944976/theyre-getting-worse-not-better-here-are-the-28-worst-replacement-official-mistakes-from-week-2
Cool vid... Some bonehead shit in there. Especially the clock stuff... Regardless of the level you came from, clock control is REF 101 stuff.
One play does not belong is#6, DQ's hit on the Bengals' WR... It was not helmet to helmet; it was facemask to chest plate. Additionally the WR was not defenseless (as in the ball was thrown over his head out of reach) the hit was instrumental is separating the WR from a ball he likely catches. It's called defense... and I love it...
Ditto the other similar "missed call" in the NYG/ TB game. The Safety's crossed arms hit the WR's shoulder pad...
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Found this link to the 28 worst calls by the official last weekend. 5 or 6 where from the browns game http://deadspin.com/5944976/theyre-getting-worse-not-better-here-are-the-28-worst-replacement-official-mistakes-from-week-2
Cool vid... Some bonehead shit in there. Especially the clock stuff... Regardless of the level you came from, clock control is REF 101 stuff.
One play does not belong is#6, DQ's hit on the Bengals' WR... It was not helmet to helmet; it was facemask to chest plate. Additionally the WR was not defenseless (as in the ball was thrown over his head out of reach) the hit was instrumental is separating the WR from a ball he likely catches. It's called defense... and I love it...
Ditto the other similar "missed call" in the NYG/ TB game. The Safety's crossed arms hit the WR's shoulder pad...
Cool vid... Some bonehead shit in there. Especially the clock stuff... Regardless of the level you came from, clock control is REF 101 stuff.
One play does not belong is#6, DQ's hit on the Bengals' WR... It was not helmet to helmet; it was facemask to chest plate. Additionally the WR was not defenseless (as in the ball was thrown over his head out of reach) the hit was instrumental is separating the WR from a ball he likely catches. It's called defense... and I love it...
Ditto the other similar "missed call" in the NYG/ TB game. The Safety's crossed arms hit the WR's shoulder pad...
I agree they're taking the "defenseless wr" stuff too far. What? You're just supposed to let the guy catch the ball now?
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because apparently the best way to rectify a huge problem is to act like it doesn't exist.
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