AFC championship
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Many QBs, coaches, and teams would love to make it to the playoffs three times in five years. Making it to the Confrence Championship at that rate is pretty good.
Uh, I think you missed the entire point....The word or phrase in question is "greatness". Not "Pretty good"
oldcow1945 said:
Uh, I think you missed the entire point....The word or phrase in question is "greatness". Not "Pretty good"Greatness has to come from somewhere.
Not to mention your team is pretty great if you get to the confrence championship 3 times in 5 years. Especially considering one year we had a rookie qb and that we under went a head coaching change.
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The steelers are at or near there peak and soon it will all be down hill from here. May we stick them into the gutters where they belong. I cant way to see the rats stomping on terrible towels and then to see Cowher crying on primetime tv over it.
The steelers are at or near there peak and soon it will all be down hill from here. May we stick them into the gutters where they belong. I cant way to see the rats stomping on terrible towels and then to see Cowher crying on primetime tv over it.
Team with the best turnover margin will win ..Gonna be a close one I think .'Earle" You make an interesting comment about the Steelers team being at its peak and sliding downhill ...An exception with this organization..Like them or not they have been to 7 AFCC games over the last 15 years ,so they may dip some talent wise , but they always seem to come back ..They have been in the "gutter" (not making the Playoffs and having a down season) in the past but they never have stayed there too long ..They are one of the more consistent organizations in the league and they have been very successful for a long time .
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oldcow1945 said:
Three conference championships is the way to guage greatness, huh?The bar has been officially lowered.
No, Only Championships gauges someone's "greatness" .This Steeler's QB has ONE ...Even John Elway ,who earlier in his career played in 3 out of 6 AFCC games never was considered great ,until he won a Championship , which he finally did at the end of his career ...Roethlisberger needs to win more SB 's to be considered "great"
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oldcow1945 said:
Uh, I think you missed the entire point....The word or phrase in question is "greatness". Not "Pretty good"Greatness has to come from somewhere.
Not to mention your team is pretty great if you get to the confrence championship 3 times in 5 years. Especially considering one year we had a rookie qb and that we under went a head coaching change.
@yeahdaisafuturehofer... said:
Greatness has to come from somewhere.Not to mention your team is pretty great if you get to the confrence championship 3 times in 5 years. Especially considering one year we had a rookie qb and that we under went a head coaching change.
Missing the point again.
The statement concerned Ben being great. Not the team being great. Not Ben being pretty good. Bossy said he was great as his team was in three conference championships in five years. That is personal recognition of greatness. Not team. Not less than great as in "Good". Personally great was the point made.
Not sure what you meant by "Greatness has to come form somewhere". If you mean that he's great because you think the Steeler teams he played on are great then all I can do is question how you measure greatness.
My entire point was that if quarterbacking a team that played in a conference championship three times in five years equates to that QB being great then the bar has been lowered.
Ben Roethlisberger is hardly great. His first two season's made it seem he was on his way to greatness but since then he has been good but not great. He's an above average QB that usally doesn't make mistakes.
But there is no way we can yet place him with the giants of the game. Unitas, Marino, Elway, Montana, etc. He's just a good Qb.
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17-15 Steelers.
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@yeahdaisafuturehofer... said:
Greatness has to come from somewhere.Not to mention your team is pretty great if you get to the confrence championship 3 times in 5 years. Especially considering one year we had a rookie qb and that we under went a head coaching change.
Missing the point again.
The statement concerned Ben being great. Not the team being great. Not Ben being pretty good. Bossy said he was great as his team was in three conference championships in five years. That is personal recognition of greatness. Not team. Not less than great as in "Good". Personally great was the point made.
Not sure what you meant by "Greatness has to come form somewhere". If you mean that he's great because you think the Steeler teams he played on are great then all I can do is question how you measure greatness.
My entire point was that if quarterbacking a team that played in a conference championship three times in five years equates to that QB being great then the bar has been lowered.
Ben Roethlisberger is hardly great. His first two season's made it seem he was on his way to greatness but since then he has been good but not great. He's an above average QB that usally doesn't make mistakes.
But there is no way we can yet place him with the giants of the game. Unitas, Marino, Elway, Montana, etc. He's just a good Qb.
oldcow1945 said:
Missing the point again.The statement concerned Ben being great. Not the team being great. Not Ben being pretty good. Bossy said he was great as his team was in three conference championships in five years. That is personal recognition of greatness. Not team. Not less than great as in "Good". Personally great was the point made.
Not sure what you meant by "Greatness has to come form somewhere". If you mean that he's great because you think the Steeler teams he played on are great then all I can do is question how you measure greatness.
My entire point was that if quarterbacking a team that played in a conference championship three times in five years equates to that QB being great then the bar has been lowered.
Ben Roethlisberger is hardly great. His first two season's made it seem he was on his way to greatness but since then he has been good but not great. He's an above average QB that usally doesn't make mistakes.
But there is no way we can yet place him with the giants of the game. Unitas, Marino, Elway, Montana, etc. He's just a good Qb.
I am not trying to trick you so I will explain what I mean by "Greatness has to come from somewhere".
The Lions will not win the Super Bowl next year. Its impossible to make that kind of turnaround in one year. The Giants have a shot at next year's Super Bowl becuase they have a pretty good team. The lions won't go from worst to best. The Gaints have a chance at SB 44 becuase they have already started putting together a great team. You have to be good before you can be great.
He did make the probowl and broke most Steeler passing records so he has to be pretty good. I QB that doesn't make mistakes can't be just above average... . When is the last time a Browns QB made the probowl without help from Brady wimping out? If you are gauging success by SB wins then ben is already better then Marino.
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Well it looks like most of you let your hatred get in the way of picking the game. It would have been nice to see Zombie make his usual hate filled prediction and be wrong again, but maybe after his last Zomboni guarantee, he finally decided he had enough.
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oldcow1945 said:
Three conference championships is the way to guage greatness, huh?The bar has been officially lowered.
Ben 3 AFCC games in 5 years
Browns 2 in, well HISTORY of the modern NFL!
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