Greatest Qb Rivalries In History
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Formerly Sane said:
You're funny! Sipe and Rutigliano both stated publicly that every ball bounced the Browns way in 1980, "you", and probably many other Browns fans, "think" that happened to the Steelers. It simply isn't supported by fact.
It's kinda like you "thinking" that Modell was kicked out the NFL by the other owners

I don't disagree that the ball bounced right for the Browns that year.....but it wasn't all luck, it was a lot of fortitude.
They won that year the same way the Steelers won their last two Super Bowls: A. By getting the right calls by the refs on disputed plays, and B. Making last minute comebacks with clutch passes and good catches....and getting things like 100 yard fumble/interception returns.
The Browns in 80 got good breaks just like the Steelers did in those games. No difference.
As for Modell getting kicked out of the league: it happened. I will wager you $1000.00 on that being a fact. He was ordered to sell his franchise (by the Commish, if not specifically by the other owners).
Fact. Everyone, including Art Modell knows it. Its not like I created that fact out of thin air.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Fouts - Stabler
Marino - Fouts
Sipe - Brady
Elway - Kosar
Tittle 0 Johnny U
Do we have a winner?
Ghoolie, I do not see where Tittle and Johnny U met up any time in the post season....but they certainly probably butted heads during the regular season from 1960 to 1964 when YA was with the Giants and the Giants and Colts were in the same division perhaps.
When Johnny U was at the helm for the '58 and '59 seasons, Tittle was not with the Giants who they beat both years. It was Tobin Rote. Tittle played for the 49ers then.
Tittle did come up against Bart Starr a couple of times in the NFL title game in 1961 and 1962...losing both.
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Formerly Sane said:
We are all well aware of that:)
I guarantee you that every single thing I tell you is a fact...ones that you can shove up your ass if you'd would like....because they are solid.
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What about Greise vs. Bradshaw? Both superbowl winners and hall-of-famers
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What about Greise vs. Bradshaw? Both superbowl winners and hall-of-famers
They met twice in the playoffs. Once in 1972's AFC title game where the Dolphins won, and again in 1978 where the Steelers won. But that is it.
Griese and Stabler met up a couple of times in 73 and 74. And Bradshaw and Bert Jones with the Colts had a couple of post season scuffles in '75/76.
Let's put it this way: with ESPN and sports talk radio and 24/7 coverage, those matchups may have been made up to be of epic proportions like Manning/Brady is today.
The Manning Brady matchup back in the 70s may not have been considered all that big a deal.
I mean, really, Bradshaw and Stabler had more epic battles than Brady and Manning have had.
Not to mention Layne/Graham and some of the others.
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How about a great future rivalry: The Battle of the Redheads: Weeden vs. Dalton?
How about a great future rivalry: The Battle of the Redheads: Weeden vs. Dalton?
The "No Soul" Bowl
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