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  • @the-gipper said:

    That was under Lerner. Now Haslam is going to be owner. It all changes.

    Besides, the "greatest" coaches in history were guys that were either in their first gig somewhere or in their second gig where they didn't succeed before.

    Shula: started in Baltimore, ended up winning in Miami

    Belichick: we know all about him. Cleveland a failure, then success in NE

    Gruden: no dice in Oakland. Title winner in Tampa

    Dungy: no dice in Tampa, title in Indy.

    This is why I think a Nick Saban could very well be on Haslam's radar.

    You just proved my point. No one who is currently successful or left during a great legacy will come here and taint their name. It just won't happen. This place is a black hole for coaches.

    Saban is living the good life and is not going to leave a thriving college program where he's king of the hill to come to the bottle of the barell and be under an enormous amount of stress to turn this thing around.

    @usfbrown said:

    You just proved my point. No one who is currently successful or left during a great legacy will come here and taint their name. It just won't happen. This place is a black hole for coaches.

    Saban is living the good life and is not going to leave a thriving college program where he's king of the hill to come to the bottle of the barell and be under an enormous amount of stress to turn this thing around.

    With the right Owner and front office, that could possibly change. Haslam is saying all the right things right now, and hopefully means it.

  • I understand the people are upset, but this thread is borderline ridiculous. I don't think that anyone would have expected this team to have more than 1 or maybe 2 wins against the five teams that we have played so far. So why is everyone acting surprised that we are still winless? Take a look at our depth chart. Our starting lineup and depth is filled with rookies, 2nd year players, and UDFAs. I guess no one remembers analysts expecting only a couple of wins for the Browns this year. Do you honestly think that we are supposed to beat the Giants (or Ravens, Eagles, etc.), and when we don't how does it make sense to blame the coach when we were clearly outmatched with talent? This year is for development not a playoff hunt. Fans need a dose of reality. Also, Shurmur's call to throw on third and one was fine. You need to mix it up; all teams do it. If we ran it and got stuffed, the same people would be complaining how predictable the play calling is. The truth is on that play the problem was bad execution by the players. I am now of the opinion that many Browns fans look only to the negative and enjoy being miserable. Anyways, I don't think that Shurmur will get fired this year. It is my guess that Haslam understands the personnel situation and difficult schedule, and will ultimately judge the coach by the team's performance over the second half of the season when the team has had some time to play together. Go Browns!

  • I am not the hugest Shurmur fan but yesterday is not on him. Weeden didn't play well and the Browns have the worst DBs in the league. You subtract Jackson from the mix and that's trouble. If Trent continues to drop passes you'll continue to see Obi on 3rd down...

    @baconhound said:

    I am not the hugest Shurmur fan but yesterday is not on him. Weeden didn't play well and the Browns have the worst DBs in the league. You subtract Jackson from the mix and that's trouble. If Trent continues to drop passes you'll continue to see Obi on 3rd down...

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