Shurmer
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No way they put holmgren on the sidelines. He's already said he's out the door. If this happened it would be a first indication that the new group is no better than the last.
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The one mistake I think Holmgren made was the hire of his friends kid, but it was a big mistake because he fucking sucks as a head coach.
The one mistake??? Holmgren didn't do jack shit! He gave inspirational speaches after each season.
The fatass is looking to get back into coaching again now that he has had the last 3 years off.
The one mistake??? Holmgren didn't do jack shit! He gave inspirational speaches after each season.
The fatass is looking to get back into coaching again now that he has had the last 3 years off.
This team is definitely more talented than before. You can't deny that.
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This team is definitely more talented than before. You can't deny that.
than before what?
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This team is definitely more talented than before. You can't deny that.
than before what?
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I just wish shurmur hadn't abandoned the run. The 4th down punt didn't bother me too much as the Colts went 3 and out...I can't really blame a guy for trusting his defense over his offense. If the offense develops some kind of consistency and stops losing games with dropped passes/transparent play-calling they will become trustworthy. I'm not defending Shurmur and will be very surprised if he isn't fired soon but my main beef is dropped passes(especially when the game is on the line). Overall, however, I'm certainly not as upset as most Brown's fans appear to be. How many people honestly saw this as a playoff contending team? This team is too young to play a full game, but I am interested to see how the chemistry of the team grows as the new owner gets a new HC and probably a pretty valuable draft pick.
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The year before he took over.
Actually we are younger than before and have higher upside. But honestly 3 years and we aren't winning. look at our drafts, by no means have we hit homeruns with our picks.
Please don't tell me because a guy starts for us he is a good draft pick.
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man, i love the browns to death but if they decided to put holmgren on the sidelines i just might give up the 30+ years of rooting for and defending the name of this team.
why don't we just hire al grohl and be done with it. we can pick #'s to see who jumps off the suicide bridge first.
man, i love the browns to death but if they decided to put holmgren on the sidelines i just might give up the 30+ years of rooting for and defending the name of this team.
why don't we just hire al grohl and be done with it. we can pick #'s to see who jumps off the suicide bridge first.
Is Bruce Coslett available?
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The year before he took over.
Actually we are younger than before and have higher upside. But honestly 3 years and we aren't winning. look at our drafts, by no means have we hit homeruns with our picks.
Please don't tell me because a guy starts for us he is a good draft pick.
Actually we are younger than before and have higher upside. But honestly 3 years and we aren't winning. look at our drafts, by no means have we hit homeruns with our picks.
Please don't tell me because a guy starts for us he is a good draft pick.
How many homerun picks can you name from the last 3 drafts?
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Actually we are younger than before and have higher upside. But honestly 3 years and we aren't winning. look at our drafts, by no means have we hit homeruns with our picks.
Please don't tell me because a guy starts for us he is a good draft pick.
How many homerun picks can you name from the last 3 drafts?
How many homerun picks can you name from the last 3 drafts?
Not as much homeruns but teams who were just as crappy and able to turn it around. Look at Seattle, Arizona even the Rams. The Vikings
My point is Holmgren has had his time and hasn't turned to corner. We are again at the cross roads. We are a very young team and have some talent. When i look at our defense besides Haden no one really stands out. Now you don't always need players to stand out if you are playing well as a unit but we aren't doing that either..
Holmgren, Heckert and shurmur should all be shown the door. Lets get the right guys in here who wont make this a 10 year plan to have a 500 record.
We are so desperate for any signs we are grasping a positives. We are young.. big Fing dealing
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How many homerun picks can you name from the last 3 drafts?
Not as much homeruns but teams who were just as crappy and able to turn it around. Look at Seattle, Arizona even the Rams. The Vikings
My point is Holmgren has had his time and hasn't turned to corner. We are again at the cross roads. We are a very young team and have some talent. When i look at our defense besides Haden no one really stands out. Now you don't always need players to stand out if you are playing well as a unit but we aren't doing that either..
Holmgren, Heckert and shurmur should all be shown the door. Lets get the right guys in here who wont make this a 10 year plan to have a 500 record.
We are so desperate for any signs we are grasping a positives. We are young.. big Fing dealing
Not as much homeruns but teams who were just as crappy and able to turn it around. Look at Seattle, Arizona even the Rams. The Vikings
My point is Holmgren has had his time and hasn't turned to corner. We are again at the cross roads. We are a very young team and have some talent. When i look at our defense besides Haden no one really stands out. Now you don't always need players to stand out if you are playing well as a unit but we aren't doing that either..
Holmgren, Heckert and shurmur should all be shown the door. Lets get the right guys in here who wont make this a 10 year plan to have a 500 record.
We are so desperate for any signs we are grasping a positives. We are young.. big Fing dealing
seriously i don't think we are that bad. when healthy we have 2 dominant DLinemen, a very good and a decent DE, a shut-down corner and a good run stoppin safety. we are missing a couple of dominant LBs (we have a couple of young guys that are good and DQ if he can stay healthy) but i'd go defense with our first 3 picks next year unless there is a game changing WR staring us in the face.
on offense i think all we really need is depth on the line and a fucking monster fullback.
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Not as much homeruns but teams who were just as crappy and able to turn it around. Look at Seattle, Arizona even the Rams. The Vikings
My point is Holmgren has had his time and hasn't turned to corner. We are again at the cross roads. We are a very young team and have some talent. When i look at our defense besides Haden no one really stands out. Now you don't always need players to stand out if you are playing well as a unit but we aren't doing that either..
Holmgren, Heckert and shurmur should all be shown the door. Lets get the right guys in here who wont make this a 10 year plan to have a 500 record.
We are so desperate for any signs we are grasping a positives. We are young.. big Fing dealing
seriously i don't think we are that bad. when healthy we have 2 dominant DLinemen, a very good and a decent DE, a shut-down corner and a good run stoppin safety. we are missing a couple of dominant LBs (we have a couple of young guys that are good and DQ if he can stay healthy) but i'd go defense with our first 3 picks next year unless there is a game changing WR staring us in the face.
on offense i think all we really need is depth on the line and a fucking monster fullback.
seriously i don't think we are that bad. when healthy we have 2 dominant DLinemen, a very good and a decent DE, a shut-down corner and a good run stoppin safety. we are missing a couple of dominant LBs (we have a couple of young guys that are good and DQ if he can stay healthy) but i'd go defense with our first 3 picks next year unless there is a game changing WR staring us in the face.
on offense i think all we really need is depth on the line and a fucking monster fullback.
No we arent that bad but we arent good either. We have potenial with right coach and GM. I agree we need to draft defense and depth. We also need to sign a few free agents to challenge for starting spots.
I will just be happy when Haslam gives these guys the boot
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seriously i don't think we are that bad. when healthy we have 2 dominant DLinemen, a very good and a decent DE, a shut-down corner and a good run stoppin safety. we are missing a couple of dominant LBs (we have a couple of young guys that are good and DQ if he can stay healthy) but i'd go defense with our first 3 picks next year unless there is a game changing WR staring us in the face.
on offense i think all we really need is depth on the line and a fucking monster fullback.
No we arent that bad but we arent good either. We have potenial with right coach and GM. I agree we need to draft defense and depth. We also need to sign a few free agents to challenge for starting spots.
I will just be happy when Haslam gives these guys the boot
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As much as we all shit on Shurmur, got to give him credit on this one.
Besides blowing our time outs he did pretty well.
I loved how they got Richardson the ball on those quick pitches and draws instead of beating the dead horse up the middle all game.
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Dude the entire game we all felt like we were gonna blow it somehow.
The offense scored on it's first possession and didn't do shit the rest of the game. Holy crap it's crazy how one win will cloud everyone's vision.
It sucks that most of our fans don't expect better. We get a win and it's a party and everyone refuses to critique anything.
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Dabs a fucking troll, so who gives a shit what he thinks. A win is a win.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
I am a diehard Browns fan.
But also, I know about football that's what separates me from you. Sure, "a win is a win" but does this type of play translate to more wins? Not at all. We played a terrible game and came out with a win, for that I am happy, but it is unsettling how we were unable to even get into field goal range after that first drive.
You can't give Shurmur credit for this game when we only put together one scoring drive. He called a timeout on a 3rd down to get things figured out, then Weeden got sacked in less than a second.
All I'm saying is that our team can't be satisfied today, they have to want to get better. I want us to win a superbowl one day, and that won't happen if we let mediocrity and inconsistency continue to be here. We need to expect better, and I'm very sorry if you don't feel the same.
Before you swear at me, or call me an idiot, can you please try your best to actually articulate a real response to my post? Thank you.
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Shurmer calling the reverse 1 - while we're ahead, 2 - in that weather was a real bonehead move.
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Him calling a play at all and not running out the quarter was stupid. Why on Earth he thinks a reverse that has only worked once this season is a good idea every game, is honestly beyond me.
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I am a diehard Browns fan.
But also, I know about football that's what separates me from you. Sure, "a win is a win" but does this type of play translate to more wins? Not at all. We played a terrible game and came out with a win, for that I am happy, but it is unsettling how we were unable to even get into field goal range after that first drive.
You can't give Shurmur credit for this game when we only put together one scoring drive. He called a timeout on a 3rd down to get things figured out, then Weeden got sacked in less than a second.
All I'm saying is that our team can't be satisfied today, they have to want to get better. I want us to win a superbowl one day, and that won't happen if we let mediocrity and inconsistency continue to be here. We need to expect better, and I'm very sorry if you don't feel the same.
Before you swear at me, or call me an idiot, can you please try your best to actually articulate a real response to my post? Thank you.
I am a diehard Browns fan.
But also, I know about football that's what separates me from you.
I sure would like some proof of that.
I think we all would.
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