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  • T The Cysko Kid

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/11/27/american-drones_n_2199193.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false

    With a global drone arms race going on? Doesn't seem prudent. I can't see how we can't invest the money to stay on top...we certainly don't want China to have more terminators than us. All that's left is to activate skynet...

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    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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    @the-cysko-kid said:

    http://www.huffingto...&comm_ref=false

    With a global drone arms race going on? Doesn't seem prudent. I can't see how we can't invest the money to stay on top...we certainly don't want China to have more terminators than us. All that's left is to activate skynet...

    Hell no.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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      F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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      cyberdyne / skynet

      boy do we live in interesting times!

      not only the the international conundrum with drones....( the Huff pos article left out the US drone downing in Iran and its refusal to return to us, even when asked politely by BHO.)

      but how about local police depts buying these things and spying on its citizens?

      Cysko, maybe there will be inexpensive jamming technology available for us common folks to neutralize this new threat to our privacy and safety?

      Maybe its in the Radio Shack catalog?

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        VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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        Hell yeah! Spend it on biomedical research instead!

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        • T The Cysko Kid

          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/11/27/american-drones_n_2199193.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false

          With a global drone arms race going on? Doesn't seem prudent. I can't see how we can't invest the money to stay on top...we certainly don't want China to have more terminators than us. All that's left is to activate skynet...

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          @the-cysko-kid said:

          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/11/27/american-drones_n_2199193.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false

          With a global drone arms race going on? Doesn't seem prudent. I can't see how we can't invest the money to stay on top...we certainly don't want China to have more terminators than us. All that's left is to activate skynet...

          The worst part is many of the programs that can be cut or changed won't be. For instance, see article below, the military doesn't want any more M1 tanks since the current design is not optimal in an urban setting, but they are still being produced but congress won't allow it to be cut or modified it would save the military roughly $3billion dollars while the tanks is redesigned.

          http://truth-out.org/news/item/10784-congress-as-enabler-the-pentagon-cant-kill-the-m-1-tank-only-an-ied-can-part-two

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            W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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            I have absolutely no doubt there's enough to waste in the defense budget to trim out a good piece of it.

            That being said I would hope our people are working diligently on creating a new weapons system that makes the nuclear bomb look like a cap gun.

            Because if we don't someone else will.

            Maybe some of your " civilized" buddies in Iran Egypt Iraq or Saudi Arabia.

            But most likely China.

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              I have absolutely no doubt there's enough to waste in the defense budget to trim out a good piece of it.

              That being said I would hope our people are working diligently on creating a new weapons system that makes the nuclear bomb look like a cap gun.

              Because if we don't someone else will.

              Maybe some of your " civilized" buddies in Iran Egypt Iraq or Saudi Arabia.

              But most likely China.

              WSS

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              ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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              @westside-steve said:

              I have absolutely no doubt there's enough to waste in the defense budget to trim out a good piece of it.

              That being said I would hope our people are working diligently on creating a new weapons system that makes the nuclear bomb look like a cap gun.

              Because if we don't someone else will.

              Maybe some of your " civilized" buddies in Iran Egypt Iraq or Saudi Arabia.

              But most likely China.

              WSS

              I agree. There is enough fat in all departments to cut 20%.

              Maybe not all at once, but on a step down....say 5% every 2 years. Make it a 8 year process.

              Mandate it....all levels of federal government have to cut 20% off the budget.

              For all my lib friends....why is it you are always looking to raise money through taxes....which i don't dismiss may need to happen.....but don't want to see any spending cuts across the board??

              My hope is congress doesn't fold and unless real cuts are proposed, we go off the cliff and all of our taxes go up. I don't want to pay more, but will and can if required.

              I think it's time people wake up I think between new tax rates for everybody and possibly mandated insurance for those that don't have any, you'll see a lot of people insisting on spending cuts.....or someones head....now it's time to see who's head they want.

              My bet is it won't be the republicans.

              If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                @westside-steve said:

                I have absolutely no doubt there's enough to waste in the defense budget to trim out a good piece of it.

                That being said I would hope our people are working diligently on creating a new weapons system that makes the nuclear bomb look like a cap gun.

                Because if we don't someone else will.

                Maybe some of your " civilized" buddies in Iran Egypt Iraq or Saudi Arabia.

                But most likely China.

                WSS

                I agree. There is enough fat in all departments to cut 20%.

                Maybe not all at once, but on a step down....say 5% every 2 years. Make it a 8 year process.

                Mandate it....all levels of federal government have to cut 20% off the budget.

                For all my lib friends....why is it you are always looking to raise money through taxes....which i don't dismiss may need to happen.....but don't want to see any spending cuts across the board??

                My hope is congress doesn't fold and unless real cuts are proposed, we go off the cliff and all of our taxes go up. I don't want to pay more, but will and can if required.

                I think it's time people wake up I think between new tax rates for everybody and possibly mandated insurance for those that don't have any, you'll see a lot of people insisting on spending cuts.....or someones head....now it's time to see who's head they want.

                My bet is it won't be the republicans.

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                @ballpeen said:

                I agree. There is enough fat in all departments to cut 20%.

                Maybe not all at once, but on a step down....say 5% every 2 years. Make it a 8 year process.

                Mandate it....all levels of federal government have to cut 20% off the budget.

                For all my lib friends....why is it you are always looking to raise money through taxes....which i don't dismiss may need to happen.....but don't want to see any spending cuts across the board??

                My hope is congress doesn't fold and unless real cuts are proposed, we go off the cliff and all of our taxes go up. I don't want to pay more, but will and can if required.

                I think it's time people wake up I think between new tax rates for everybody and possibly mandated insurance for those that don't have any, you'll see a lot of people insisting on spending cuts.....or someones head....now it's time to see who's head they want.

                My bet is it won't be the republicans.

                your ideas make good sense but this congress and president are just can kickers once again!

                but the POTUS is really slick here...

                if spending cuts are off the table by Christmas. (just an extended ceiling and more nominal revenue from the rich taxation)

                then BHO comes in next year this time to introduce his spending cuts, and comes off the hero in time for the midterms.. to finally put an end to those do nothin House R's!

                and it would make perfect sense to the 51% voting block who were sleeping, or in a stupor (whatever the BHO worship is) to come out in favor of this BS

                we do need the R's n theHouse to stand up against the tax and spend guys.... all the tea party haters will maybe see the light?

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                  ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                  I find it odd our board dems don't comment on serious issues and worry about homo rights.

                  What do you boys propose we cut?

                  If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                    I find it odd our board dems don't comment on serious issues and worry about homo rights.

                    What do you boys propose we cut?

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                    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                    @ballpeen said:

                    I find it odd our board dems don't comment on serious issues and worry about homo rights.

                    What do you boys propose we cut?

                    Because the new generation is feminized to the max. Just look at the younger guys in here, and tell me it isn't the truth.

                    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                      @ballpeen said:

                      I find it odd our board dems don't comment on serious issues and worry about homo rights.

                      What do you boys propose we cut?

                      Because the new generation is feminized to the max. Just look at the younger guys in here, and tell me it isn't the truth.

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                      T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by The Cysko Kid
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                      @diehardbrownsfan said:

                      Because the new generation is feminized to the max. Just look at the younger guys in here, and tell me it isn't the truth.

                      Whoa my friend, a lot of dems are feminized period, regardless of the generation. I think the young generation is more or less handicapped into a certain bully-free pussiness, where everyone gets a participation medal and a nice pizza dinner just for showing up, but you have to lay the blame for that squarely on the generation that sired them. I'm not old enough to be their dad so that would be...

                      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                        Lol, you guys.

                        So you're the perfect generation and ye somehow every current problem we have isn't your fault... hmmm

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                          @diehardbrownsfan said:

                          Because the new generation is feminized to the max. Just look at the younger guys in here, and tell me it isn't the truth.

                          Whoa my friend, a lot of dems are feminized period, regardless of the generation. I think the young generation is more or less handicapped into a certain bully-free pussiness, where everyone gets a participation medal and a nice pizza dinner just for showing up, but you have to lay the blame for that squarely on the generation that sired them. I'm not old enough to be their dad so that would be...

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                          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                          @the-cysko-kid said:

                          Whoa my friend, a lot of dems are feminized period, regardless of the generation. I think the young generation is more or less handicapped into a certain bully-free pussiness, where everyone gets a participation medal and a nice pizza dinner just for showing up, but you have to lay the blame for that squarely on the generation that sired them. I'm not old enough to be their dad so that would be...

                          No, I think the blame lies with the teachers/professors. They lay their liberal/pussy agenda on them and they go from there. And believe me Air Force, I didn't teach my kids to be wimps.

                          "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            Damn those professors teaching our kids things! Everyone knows knowledge and learning are just a gate way to the ho-mo-sexual lifestyle! The only book learning my kids need is from the Bible! In fact, my kids don't need school at all. I'm just gonna teach em to hunt and fish and build stuff! Yeah, and the girl can be taught how to cook and clean! 'Merica!

                            Really you guys couldn't sound any dumber right now.

                            Well actually its close between all the science comments in the other thread and this

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                              I realize you think you know everything, when in reality you don't know shit. But, believe me, the professors have an agenda, and it's always been to make kids not only learn what they are teaching, but also influence their way of thinking.

                              "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                Lol, you guys.

                                So you're the perfect generation and ye somehow every current problem we have isn't your fault... hmmm

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                                @mld-woody said:

                                Lol, you guys.

                                So you're the perfect generation and ye somehow every current problem we have isn't your fault... hmmm

                                There's no way diehard and I are in the same generation.

                                Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                  T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                                  Let me ask you something woody...have you ever been punched in the face?

                                  I'm in no way saying I want to punch you. On this board, I only have interest in punching bunker, but have you?

                                  Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                    @mld-woody said:

                                    Lol, you guys.

                                    So you're the perfect generation and ye somehow every current problem we have isn't your fault... hmmm

                                    There's no way diehard and I are in the same generation.

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                                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                    @the-cysko-kid said:

                                    There's no way diehard and I are in the same generation.

                                    that wasn't really directed toward you

                                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                      Let me ask you something woody...have you ever been punched in the face?

                                      I'm in no way saying I want to punch you. On this board, I only have interest in punching bunker, but have you?

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                                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                      @the-cysko-kid said:

                                      Let me ask you something woody...have you ever been punched in the face?

                                      I'm in no way saying I want to punch you. On this board, I only have interest in punching bunker, but have you?

                                      nope

                                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                        I realize you think you know everything, when in reality you don't know shit. But, believe me, the professors have an agenda, and it's always been to make kids not only learn what they are teaching, but also influence their way of thinking.

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                                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                        @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                        I realize you think you know everything, when in reality you don't know shit. But, believe me, the professors have an agenda, and it's always been to make kids not only learn what they are teaching, but also influence their way of thinking.

                                        you do know everything though, correct?

                                        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                          @the-cysko-kid said:

                                          Let me ask you something woody...have you ever been punched in the face?

                                          I'm in no way saying I want to punch you. On this board, I only have interest in punching bunker, but have you?

                                          nope

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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          nope

                                          You should get in a fight. It teaches you stuff about yourself that you might not otherwise learn.

                                          Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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