I'm Actually Rooting For Shurmur To Keep His Job
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I'm not a huge fan of Shurmur, but this is as competitive of a Browns team as I've seen since our return. The guy's done a lot with no offseason to work with when he came in, the second youngest roster in the NFL, and a year under dipshit Randy Lerner. The team plays for the guy, regardless of how uninspiring his postgame speeches might be.
At the beginning of this year, I felt he was, by and far, the weakest link on the team. I'm not saying he's great, but we've been competitive in almost every game of the season. We could easily be 8-4, and yes, some of those losses fall mostly on his shoulders, but we're still improving. I don't think Shurmur has reached his ceiling yet, and I honestly think I'd rather have one more year with him at the helm instead of another year rebuilding. I'm sick and tired of fucking rebuilding.
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I'm not a huge fan of Shurmur, but this is as competitive of a Browns team as I've seen since our return. The guy's done a lot with no offseason to work with when he came in, the second youngest roster in the NFL, and a year under dipshit Randy Lerner. The team plays for the guy, regardless of how uninspiring his postgame speeches might be.
At the beginning of this year, I felt he was, by and far, the weakest link on the team. I'm not saying he's great, but we've been competitive in almost every game of the season. We could easily be 8-4, and yes, some of those losses fall mostly on his shoulders, but we're still improving. I don't think Shurmur has reached his ceiling yet, and I honestly think I'd rather have one more year with him at the helm instead of another year rebuilding. I'm sick and tired of fucking rebuilding.
I'm sick and tired of fucking rebuilding.
ditto.
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Ahhh Browns fans..how soon we forget,give us two wins and we suddenly have amnesia.
We're like the wife that gets her ass beat then forgives everything with an "I'm sorry baby" and some flowers.
I gotta admit I'm on the bandwagon too.. whether Shurmur deserves to be fired or keeps the job, well he'll prove it in the next four games.
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Yeah, keeping him obviously relies on his performance at the end of the season. I think he makes a good case for staying if he wins 3 games, and stays close vs Pitt or Denver.
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Hell no. Dump him and get someone who conforms to our new owner and GM.
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I think it depends on whether he's learned by his earlier mistakes and has plans to take the leash off the offence next year, when our skill players will have a full season under their belts.
Must admit some of his negative play calling, especially late in games really pisses me off, and asked the same question a couple of weeks ago i would have laughed. But if he has a longer term plan to move forward maybe he's worth another year.
Whatever happens I trust Jimmy to either get results or get rid, so at least Pattyboy now knows he has to produce. He cant hide behind the excuse of having shit players anymore because we don't so it's time to finally see results and have a team to be proud of.
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I think it depends on whether he's learned by his earlier mistakes and has plans to take the leash off the offence next year, when our skill players will have a full season under their belts.
Must admit some of his negative play calling, especially late in games really pisses me off, and asked the same question a couple of weeks ago i would have laughed. But if he has a longer term plan to move forward maybe he's worth another year.
Whatever happens I trust Jimmy to either get results or get rid, so at least Pattyboy now knows he has to produce. He cant hide behind the excuse of having shit players anymore because we don't so it's time to finally see results and have a team to be proud of.
Must admit some of his negative play calling, especially late in games really pisses me off, and asked the same question a couple of weeks ago i would have laughed. But if he has a longer term plan to move forward maybe he's worth another year.
I agree, the answer would have been a no-brainer 3 weeks ago, but I'm just shocked at how competitive this team has been. We're close. Our offense is mostly set, with the only real questions at guard and qb. I imagine we'll draft defense, and if Heckert's record is any indication, we'll pick up at least 2, and as many as 4 starters.
I just don't want to have anything to do with Lombardi. He's fucking terrible.
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seriously?!?!?!?!?
talk about living in the moment, they beat the steelers without big ben, and jokeland
and now all of sudden pat shurmur deserves to stay?
the guy is a world class moron
he gets a lead in the first quarter and then tries to run out the clock
then they play that stupid bend but dont break defense
too pedestrian, too conservative
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Must admit some of his negative play calling, especially late in games really pisses me off, and asked the same question a couple of weeks ago i would have laughed. But if he has a longer term plan to move forward maybe he's worth another year.
I agree, the answer would have been a no-brainer 3 weeks ago, but I'm just shocked at how competitive this team has been. We're close. Our offense is mostly set, with the only real questions at guard and qb. I imagine we'll draft defense, and if Heckert's record is any indication, we'll pick up at least 2, and as many as 4 starters.
I just don't want to have anything to do with Lombardi. He's fucking terrible.
I agree, the answer would have been a no-brainer 3 weeks ago, but I'm just shocked at how competitive this team has been. We're close. Our offense is mostly set, with the only real questions at guard and qb. I imagine we'll draft defense, and if Heckert's record is any indication, we'll pick up at least 2, and as many as 4 starters.
I just don't want to have anything to do with Lombardi. He's fucking terrible.
By all accounts lombardi was little more than a yes-man in Oakland and Al Davis made the picks there. It's possible Haslam and Banner are looking for just such a yes man so one or both of them can make the pics and still have somebody to take the fall if they suck.
I'm for Heckert, I think he's done a fine job, I just think he's doomed from the beginning due to his pre existing relationship with Banner. I'd love to be wrong about that.
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Must admit some of his negative play calling, especially late in games really pisses me off, and asked the same question a couple of weeks ago i would have laughed. But if he has a longer term plan to move forward maybe he's worth another year.
I agree, the answer would have been a no-brainer 3 weeks ago, but I'm just shocked at how competitive this team has been. We're close. Our offense is mostly set, with the only real questions at guard and qb. I imagine we'll draft defense, and if Heckert's record is any indication, we'll pick up at least 2, and as many as 4 starters.
I just don't want to have anything to do with Lombardi. He's fucking terrible.
I agree, the answer would have been a no-brainer 3 weeks ago, but I'm just shocked at how competitive this team has been. We're close. Our offense is mostly set, with the only real questions at guard and qb. I imagine we'll draft defense, and if Heckert's record is any indication, we'll pick up at least 2, and as many as 4 starters.
I just don't want to have anything to do with Lombardi. He's fucking terrible.
The bigger problem is now that we have new ownership, they are going to want their people. I do not think shurmur is a very bright guy or a good coach anyway.
Listen the biggest mistake Holmgren and Heckert did was give Mangini another year with NO INTENTIONS of retaining him. Mangini won 4 straight games and they gave him another year. This set the team back at least a year in the rebuilding and maybe more. Mangini was a much better coach than shurmur but it was obvious holmgren didnt want to keep him. I can't remember how many times that season Holmgren came out and said how frustrated he was with the offense.
Yet when his patsy comes in shurmur you don't here a peep..
If Heckert leaves which he probably will. I have heard he wants power in personel over Banner which will be his exit. The next GM will want to get some one they are comfortable with.
Look at coaches that teams kept for the sake of continuity.. Marvin Lewis,norv turner.
The only coach i can say who actually looks like now the patients has paid off is the Texans and kubiak.
Fire Shurmur at the end of the season if you don't think he is the guy. Waivering on if he is the guy is not a good way togo into the future.
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I can understand why people think the idea of keeping him is crazy because I would have a few weeks ago.
I also admit that I don't get to see what the guy says after the games being over here, so don't really know if he has a plan to take us gradually forward this season or is just some dumb fuck who got lucky by having a bunch of talented rookies given to him.
Either way, like I said, with the new owners in charge he now knows he has to get things going or he's gone, which is a win win deal for us Browns fans.
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I can understand why people think the idea of keeping him is crazy because I would have a few weeks ago.
I also admit that I don't get to see what the guy says after the games being over here, so don't really know if he has a plan to take us gradually forward this season or is just some dumb fuck who got lucky by having a bunch of talented rookies given to him.
Either way, like I said, with the new owners in charge he now knows he has to get things going or he's gone, which is a win win deal for us Browns fans.
Either way, like I said, with the new owners in charge he now knows he has to get things going or he's gone, which is a win win deal for us Browns fans.
Yep...I'm sick & tired of talking about draft picks this time of year....this team needs to learn how to win sometime, and that sometime is now.
Shurmer could make it tough on Haslam. I was shocked last week when he went for it twice on 4th down, and actually threw out of the end zone. Was it Shurmer learning, or was it because we were playing the Raiders?
Attack attack attack on both sides of the ball, that's what I want to see.
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I don't think shurmur is an idiot necessarily I think he's a guy who's had a tough team to start a head coaching gig with. Like it or not the fans are out for blood in this town. Win win win or get out of town. He's learning the rooks and sophmores are learning I think he's doing an ok job and might even pan out as a decent coach in the future. I wouldn't mind him staying as long as Haslem is there to put the needles to him and pressure him to be aggressive and leave his highly conservative comfort zone. I don't think Haslem will retain him, but I wouldn't hate it.
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If we get some big name guy and he does no better within 2 years then this shit happens again. This team is playing hard for him, I think if he delegated the calls a little more he would be in better shape. Once again we have been in pretty much every game this year. We are just very inconsistent. With the coordinators we have, there is no reason to blow things up again. At the end of the day though, there will be some big names floating around this offseason and we will probably move on AGAIN! No matter what Im still gonna make games and spend money on watching them.
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You do relize the players are playing there ass off because
1. its there job
2. The fear of God named Haslem is looking down on them
Shurmer is a Moron.....
We have 4 wins
Cincy Good win
San Diego WE won because we know how to play in that type of weather and Rivers does not
Steelers game- NO BIG BEN
Oakland game- Its Oakland
Indy game- Shurmer coast us the game not Gordon dropping the ball
Both Balt games could have won got Shurmered
Cowboys game Got Shurmered
Giants game got Shurmered
Philly game got Shurmered
Not saying we win all those games with a Different coach, but I know with Caoching staff from San Fran, Green Bay, Balt, Pitts, NE, Tampa, Alt, NY Giants, Seattle, INdy, we win at least 3 to 4 of those games that would put us at 7-5 or 8-4 not 4-8
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You do relize the players are playing there ass off because
1. its there job
2. The fear of God named Haslem is looking down on them
Shurmer is a Moron.....
We have 4 wins
Cincy Good win
San Diego WE won because we know how to play in that type of weather and Rivers does not
Steelers game- NO BIG BEN
Oakland game- Its Oakland
Indy game- Shurmer coast us the game not Gordon dropping the ball
Both Balt games could have won got Shurmered
Cowboys game Got Shurmered
Giants game got Shurmered
Philly game got Shurmered
Not saying we win all those games with a Different coach, but I know with Caoching staff from San Fran, Green Bay, Balt, Pitts, NE, Tampa, Alt, NY Giants, Seattle, INdy, we win at least 3 to 4 of those games that would put us at 7-5 or 8-4 not 4-8
You do relize the players are playing there ass off because
1. its there job
2. The fear of God named Haslem is looking down on them
Shurmer is a Moron.....
We have 4 wins
Cincy Good win
San Diego WE won because we know how to play in that type of weather and Rivers does not
Steelers game- NO BIG BEN
Oakland game- Its Oakland
Indy game- Shurmer coast us the game not Gordon dropping the ball
Both Balt games could have won got Shurmered
Cowboys game Got Shurmered
Giants game got Shurmered
Philly game got Shurmered
Not saying we win all those games with a Different coach, but I know with Caoching staff from San Fran, Green Bay, Balt, Pitts, NE, Tampa, Alt, NY Giants, Seattle, INdy, we win at least 3 to 4 of those games that would put us at 7-5 or 8-4 not 4-8
Steelers beat the ravens with batch. Makes the browns win seem better
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If it's not Shurmur, then who?
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Shurmur needs to demonstrate he can BLOW OUT A TEAM with KC tomorrow. Also he needs 7-9 to be considered an option.
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Pittsburgh, without gay ben, beat Baltimore. Why are you homos calling the Stoolers QB "Big" are you queer? It looks that way when you type that.
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Pittsburgh, without gay ben, beat Baltimore. Why are you homos calling the Stoolers QB "Big" are you queer? It looks that way when you type that.
Pittsburgh, without gay ben, beat Baltimore. Why are you homos calling the Stoolers QB "Big" are you queer? It looks that way when you type that.
Agreed. I can't stand it when Browns fans call him Big Ben. That's for yellow towel mouth breathers. Consentlessberger does just fine
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