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  • tampadawgs tampadawgsT
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    tampadawgsT tampadawgs wrote on last edited by
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    So we have half this board that love Weeds and the other half who love Mccoy and another half who hate both...I know its 1.5 halves...

    Here is a breakdown of all the Browns QBs in the history that was worth anything best year

    Brian Sipe-1980

    4132 yards

    30 TDS

    14 INT

    60.8 Comp%

    qb RATING 90.4

    Bernie Kosar-1987

    3033 yards

    22 TDS

    9 INT

    62 comp%

    95.4 QBR

    Brandon Weeden-2012

    3385 yards

    14 TD

    17 INT

    57.4 Comp %

    72.6 QBR

    Colt Mccoy-2011

    2733 Yards

    14 TD

    11 INT

    57.2 comp%

    74.6 QBR

    I would put Otto in this, but we all know that he was the best QB in Browns History, do there is no need. Here are the 4 I put on here!!!!

    Weeds numbers as a rookie not bad since they are some what close to Kosars career year..

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      VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
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      The game in 1987 is not the same as it is in 2012. More is expected of 1st round QB's. At least compare him to one of the Manning brothers, y'know, something a little more contemporary.

      You can't just say "look, I have stats," and ignore their context.

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        The game in 1987 is not the same as it is in 2012. More is expected of 1st round QB's. At least compare him to one of the Manning brothers, y'know, something a little more contemporary.

        You can't just say "look, I have stats," and ignore their context.

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        hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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        @vaportrail said:

        The game in 1987 is not the same as it is in 2012. More is expected of 1st round QB's. At least compare him to one of the Manning brothers, y'know, something a little more contemporary.

        You can't just say "look, I have stats," and ignore their context.

        Easy enough to look that up on NFL.com if you have the mind to. BTW both mannings threw for more ints than TD their first year as a starter. HOwever most of the big names didn't. Weeden needs to cut down on the head scratching interceptions to improve. Don't feel bad- Rothlisberger cost the Steelers the game with his picks. It happens.

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          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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          There aren't any other recent options at QB. Give Weeden another year

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            There aren't any other recent options at QB. Give Weeden another year

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            B bringbackbrownie2 wrote on last edited by
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            @mld-woody said:

            There aren't any other recent options at QB. Give Weeden another year

            this is exactly where I am at. It's not like we have no other positions of need..

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              tampadawgsT tampadawgs wrote on last edited by
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              Here are some other big names

              Eli Manning- First year as full time starter

              3762 yards

              24 TD

              17 INT

              52.8 Comp%

              72.7 QBR

              Peyton Manning= Rookie Year

              3739 yards

              26 TD

              28 INT

              56.7 Comp %

              71.2 QBR

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                D dab7291993 wrote on last edited by
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                Bernie Kosar TD:INT is so much better than Weeden's it makes their rookie seasons miles apart.

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                  H Hate wrote on last edited by
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                  The only thing close in those stats in the yards. Kosar is way better in TDs,INTs and completions.

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                    Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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                    Stats are one thing, but I'm just concerned about Weeden's pocket presence. He doesn't feel the pass rush at all, and his mobility blows.

                    He may be better if we get better guards to get the running game going. Lots of "ifs," just break out of this franchise funk in 2013 please.

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                    • tampadawgsT tampadawgs

                      Here are some other big names

                      Eli Manning- First year as full time starter

                      3762 yards

                      24 TD

                      17 INT

                      52.8 Comp%

                      72.7 QBR

                      Peyton Manning= Rookie Year

                      3739 yards

                      26 TD

                      28 INT

                      56.7 Comp %

                      71.2 QBR

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                      VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                      @tampadawgs said:

                      Here are some other big names

                      Eli Manning- First year as full time starter

                      3762 yards

                      24 TD

                      17 INT

                      52.8 Comp%

                      72.7 QBR

                      Peyton Manning= Rookie Year

                      3739 yards

                      26 TD

                      28 INT

                      56.7 Comp %

                      71.2 QBR

                      There. This is better. Weeden wouldn't look so bad for a rookie if Cam, RG3 and Luck didn't come out of the gates like a bat out of hell.

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                        miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                        we need so much help on the other side of the ball that QB help is not an option....unless haslam and banner decide to throw money and some picks at washington or new england for their #2 guys.

                        i wouldn't.

                        put weeden in some confidence coaching sessions. not tell him to NOT throw the ball away or NOT to throw interceptions. i mean let him do what he does as a gun-slinger and give him a patt on his ass. if he sucks eggs doing so then 2014 we'll be looking for the next andrew luck or RG3........again.

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