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  • The game in 1987 is not the same as it is in 2012. More is expected of 1st round QB's. At least compare him to one of the Manning brothers, y'know, something a little more contemporary.

    You can't just say "look, I have stats," and ignore their context.

  • The game in 1987 is not the same as it is in 2012. More is expected of 1st round QB's. At least compare him to one of the Manning brothers, y'know, something a little more contemporary.

    You can't just say "look, I have stats," and ignore their context.

    @vaportrail said:

    The game in 1987 is not the same as it is in 2012. More is expected of 1st round QB's. At least compare him to one of the Manning brothers, y'know, something a little more contemporary.

    You can't just say "look, I have stats," and ignore their context.

    Easy enough to look that up on NFL.com if you have the mind to. BTW both mannings threw for more ints than TD their first year as a starter. HOwever most of the big names didn't. Weeden needs to cut down on the head scratching interceptions to improve. Don't feel bad- Rothlisberger cost the Steelers the game with his picks. It happens.

  • There aren't any other recent options at QB. Give Weeden another year

  • There aren't any other recent options at QB. Give Weeden another year

    @mld-woody said:

    There aren't any other recent options at QB. Give Weeden another year

    this is exactly where I am at. It's not like we have no other positions of need..

  • Here are some other big names

    Eli Manning- First year as full time starter

    3762 yards

    24 TD

    17 INT

    52.8 Comp%

    72.7 QBR

    Peyton Manning= Rookie Year

    3739 yards

    26 TD

    28 INT

    56.7 Comp %

    71.2 QBR

  • Bernie Kosar TD:INT is so much better than Weeden's it makes their rookie seasons miles apart.

  • The only thing close in those stats in the yards. Kosar is way better in TDs,INTs and completions.

  • Stats are one thing, but I'm just concerned about Weeden's pocket presence. He doesn't feel the pass rush at all, and his mobility blows.

    He may be better if we get better guards to get the running game going. Lots of "ifs," just break out of this franchise funk in 2013 please.

  • Here are some other big names

    Eli Manning- First year as full time starter

    3762 yards

    24 TD

    17 INT

    52.8 Comp%

    72.7 QBR

    Peyton Manning= Rookie Year

    3739 yards

    26 TD

    28 INT

    56.7 Comp %

    71.2 QBR

    @tampadawgs said:

    Here are some other big names

    Eli Manning- First year as full time starter

    3762 yards

    24 TD

    17 INT

    52.8 Comp%

    72.7 QBR

    Peyton Manning= Rookie Year

    3739 yards

    26 TD

    28 INT

    56.7 Comp %

    71.2 QBR

    There. This is better. Weeden wouldn't look so bad for a rookie if Cam, RG3 and Luck didn't come out of the gates like a bat out of hell.

  • we need so much help on the other side of the ball that QB help is not an option....unless haslam and banner decide to throw money and some picks at washington or new england for their #2 guys.

    i wouldn't.

    put weeden in some confidence coaching sessions. not tell him to NOT throw the ball away or NOT to throw interceptions. i mean let him do what he does as a gun-slinger and give him a patt on his ass. if he sucks eggs doing so then 2014 we'll be looking for the next andrew luck or RG3........again.