Candidates
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Stopped reading this thread after someone recommended bringing in a head coach to build around Weeden. Awful
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Two high-ranking #NFL personnel execs say Oregon HC Chip Kelly is the clear #1 choice for the Browns.
per Adam Caplan on twitter.
Two high-ranking #NFL personnel execs say Oregon HC Chip Kelly is the clear #1 choice for the Browns.
per Adam Caplan on twitter.
fuck chip kelley. how about brian kelley? which one in your minds coaches a more pro style offense? chip kelly's offense WILL NOT WORK in the nfl. also how many years do you think it would take the browns to acquire all the players with the speed on that oregon team. it'd take years.
the line about lovie smith that bugged me is over his nine year stint as HC of the bears they only once had an offense that ranked IN THE TEENS. meaning the rest of those years they were in the bottom half of the NFL.
no thanks.
hell if you want to talk obscure college HC possibilities.
frank solich of ohio
clawson at BGSU
matt campbell of toledo
any of those guys i'd take over doug marrone.
cowher is not coming back to coaching. gruden is an outright psycho and no one would want to deal with him on any level (maybe after interviewing in person they'll realize this, but all they have to do is look at tapes of monday night football to realize he has lost his mind). fuck o'brien he has done nothing.
so for all those names you've listed the only one that intrigues me is shanahan jr. and about mcdaniels: in his tweete the key word in his statement was NOW. not that he wouldn't interview after their season. just he won't interview now.
also, everyone forgets the likes of billick and mangini.
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I suspect Banner and Haslam looked at candidates everywhere they might be available and came up with a short list. Interview everyone and see who impresses you. Interviewing is an interesting thing. Often you learn surprising things from the candidates that can help clarify exactly what you are looking for even if you thought you already knew.
I think the more interesting discussion would be the answer to this question: if you were interviewing Cleveland Browns coaching candidates, what specific questions would you ask?
SPECIFIC questions. Not vague things like "I'd ask about ___________." How would you determine if the individual possesses strong leadership? Attention to detail? Their vision of the next steps in the development of the team? Making the transition for the players? Developing relationships within a new organization?
If you were the candidate, what questions would you ask of Haslam? How would you prepare for the interview?
More interesting than wild guesses, third hand reports of other folks' guesses and arbitrary criticisms of people we know only via tv.
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i love all these fucknuts on here bashing chip kelleys offense, go look at new englands offensive stats this year, and tell me again how it won't work in the nfl.
you heard it in the media and you're just some brainless parrot.
fucking numbskulls
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here's my questions
its 3rd and 8
do you a) throw a 2 yard dump off
b ) hb draw for 2 yards
c) throw the ball >= 8 yards
there is 47 seconds left til halftime, you have the ball on your own 20, your down 7, and you have all your timeouts
do you a) run out the clock
b ) punt
c) go into your hurry up offense and try to at the very least get into field goal range
its 1st and goal, how many downs should it take for you to get into the endzone
a) <= 4
b ) 5-6
c) none of the above, settle for the field goal
its halftime, you're up 10, coming out of the half, do you
a) play prevent defense and run as much of the clock down running dives and going 3 and out
b ) keep the pedal to the medal, keep attacking on offense, and apply pressure on defense
c) forfeit
you draw up a pass play, your quarterback has three options
a) check down even though gordon is wide open in the endzone
b ) stand around for 8-12 seconds then throw the ball away
c) hit your wide open receiver in the end zone
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At this point, does it hurt to interview him? Probably not. All the guys we really want are either in the playoffs or preparing for bowl games. I wouldn't expect any big names in town for at least a week.
Also, as per Adam Caplan on twitter
Totally agree...SloLerner made a habit of falling in love with his first interview Romeo,Mangini,Holmgren...When you've sucked for this long getting several perspectives on how to
fix this thing should be encouraged
Totally agree...SloLerner made a habit of falling in love with his first interview Romeo,Mangini,Holmgren...When you've sucked for this long getting several perspectives on how to
fix this thing should be encouraged
Lets not forget Lerner is a friend of Robert Kraft and was enamored with "The patriot way"...Well do what BB did...Luck out and get Tom Brady.
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i love all these fucknuts on here bashing chip kelleys offense, go look at new englands offensive stats this year, and tell me again how it won't work in the nfl.
you heard it in the media and you're just some brainless parrot.
fucking numbskulls
i love all these fucknuts on here bashing chip kelleys offense, go look at new englands offensive stats this year, and tell me again how it won't work in the nfl.
you heard it in the media and you're just some brainless parrot.
fucking numbskulls
what does the new england offense and the oregon ducks have to do with each other BIRD BRAIN?
do you think in any way that the new england patriots and the oregon ducks mirror each other. GTFO!
who's the numbskull now?
you probably like the ducks because of their 10 different style uniforms they wear. queef.
the ducks are based on speed. there's not one NFL team that has as much speed as they do. so chip kelly will come in here and automatically turn TR gordon and little into track stars?
if the browns were stoopid enuff to hire that guy then the fans better be ready for ten years of player cuts, staff changes, and reaches in the draft. go d help us all.
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i love all these fucknuts on here bashing chip kelleys offense, go look at new englands offensive stats this year, and tell me again how it won't work in the nfl.
you heard it in the media and you're just some brainless parrot.
fucking numbskulls
i love all these fucknuts on here bashing chip kelleys offense, go look at new englands offensive stats this year, and tell me again how it won't work in the nfl.
you heard it in the media and you're just some brainless parrot.
fucking numbskulls
That offense in NE is from Bill O'Brien, not Chip Kelley. O'Brien worked on that offense from 2007-2011 and was the playcaller for NE from 2009-2011
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Fox 8 in Cleveland just reported Banner is in Arizona today interviewing Ray Horton.
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Fox 8 in Cleveland just reported Banner is in Arizona today interviewing Ray Horton.
Horton's Arizona defense was solid last year. They only gave up 58 points to Seattle.
I believe a cardboard cutout of Paul Brown would make a better coach than Ray Horton.
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Fox 8 in Cleveland just reported Banner is in Arizona today interviewing Ray Horton.
Horton's Arizona defense was solid last year. They only gave up 58 points to Seattle.
I believe a cardboard cutout of Paul Brown would make a better coach than Ray Horton.
Horton's Arizona defense was solid last year. They only gave up 58 points to Seattle.
I believe a cardboard cutout of Paul Brown would make a better coach than Ray Horton.
Yeah that 49ers D must be terrible too. The only gave up 42 points to them the next week.
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@incarceratedbob just tweeted that Browns are 95% close to deal with Chip Kelly. Just working out final contract language with agent and waiting until after Fiesta Bowl to sign.
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@incarceratedbob just tweeted that Browns are 95% close to deal with Chip Kelly. Just working out final contract language with agent and waiting until after Fiesta Bowl to sign.
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In case you didn't know, #IBN breaks news early and is usually right. I don't know what his sources are, but if Chip is our #1 then we won't wait long to sign him.
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Bob is right some of the time, but other times he is very, very wrong. So who knows. I'd like him to be right in this situation.
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Don't listen to that Bob guy. Literally all that chump does is say a bunch of crap that's already speculation and gloats about it when he's right even though he's wrong tons of times. He also said a few years ago that Nate Clements had agreed to a contract with the browns and Ray edwards was planning to sign.
However I hope he's right. I mean who knows if Chip's game will work in the NFL, but it's plain to see hurry up offenses dominate in the NFL. Also, I highly doubt the man is stupid enough to try and run the same offense in the pros. I said this before but I've read a few articles on Chip and long story short a lot of his offensive mentalities have literally changed the game of college football. Sorry for the long text here but here's a tidbit from another article about his effect already on the patriots:
Chip Kelly has the University of Oregon ranked No. 2 in the country. His spread offense is dazzling and seemingly unstoppable. This season, his Ducks have averaged 52.3 points per game (fourth in Division 1) and 541.6 total yards (seventh).
The Ducks have surpassed 40 points in 34 of 46 games with Kelly as head coach, including all five this season and eight straight games dating to last season.
“Chip Kelly is a mastermind,” said Ravens tight end Ed Dickson, who played at Oregon for Kelly.
The Patriots drew inspiration for their no-huddle from Oregon coach Chip Kelly.
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The Patriots drew inspiration for their no-huddle from Oregon coach Chip Kelly.
Not bad for a guy from Manchester, N.H., who split his four-year career at UNH between quarterback and defensive back.
Kelly’s offenses, while coordinator and quarterbacks coach for the Wildcats from 1999-2006, were just as prolific as when he became Mike Bellotti’s offensive coordinator with the Ducks in 2007 before ascending to head coach in ’09.
That’s because Kelly is obsessed with speed.
Forget time of possession. It’s all about total numbers of plays to Kelly. What he’s really looking for is yards and points per minute.
Fast might be an understatement when describing Oregon’s offense. When they’re really going, they get plays off in five seconds. Oregon fans will boo the chain gang moving the sticks on the sideline because they are holding up the offense. Oregon players tell tales of defenders saying that if the Ducks go any faster they’re going to vomit or pass out.
Kelly’s practices are the stuff of legend. There is no need for wind sprints because no one stands around. At all. Not the players, not the coaches. Music is blaring. The defense sometimes plays with 25 players so the offense can get more precise.
It’s dizzying by design. The games are actually tranquil.
“I remember the first day he came as offensive coordinator, we started one of his drills,” Dickson said. “And he said, ‘I’m going to show you how fast I want to go. Your two-minute that you’re running here is going to be nothing compared to what I teach you.’ It was insane. I thought he was insane. I was like, ‘Nobody moves that fast.’ The only way you’re going to simulate that speed, you have to practice that way.”
If you want to see what’s next on the pro level, look to the colleges. That’s what Belichick does, with his alliances with coaches such as Nick Saban (LSU and Alabama), Urban Meyer (Florida and Ohio State) and, now, Kelly.
That’s why when Kelly walked into Gillette Stadium two years ago — and he’s been there three times total — ears perked up among the Patriots’ coaches, including Belichick.
Kelly had become friendly with former Patriots offensive coordinator Bill O’Brien while both were rising in the college ranks. The UNH coaching staff would visit Brown, where O’Brien was coaching, for pickup basketball games and to talk X’s and O’s.
Kelly told the Patriots he was moving to a no-huddle that only used one word to signify everything involved in a play.
Sideline calls take too long. Wristbands too.
One word is all that is needed.
“The things they’re doing now, they’re even faster,” Dickson said. “They have things where they can call one thing and it’s going to tell them formation, plays, everything, and all you have to see is coverage.”
The collective Patriots’ response to Kelly’s assertion was, basically, “You run an entire offense like that? How do you get the players to comprehend that?”
Kelly declined to be interviewed, but those with knowledge of the discussion said Kelly laid out his rationale.
Players memorize thousands of words in songs, hundreds of movie lines, and many other things involving pop culture.
Why can’t players have instant recall of a handful of concepts? Heck, everybody knows No. 2 on a McDonald’s menu gets you a Quarter Pounder, medium fries, and a drink.
“It’s kind of easy,” Dickson said. “It comes with repetition. A lot of guys learn different. Myself, I just needed to be out there repping those plays. The more comfortable you get, the faster you’ll go. He wants to make it easier to where you’re not thinking about anything, you’re just going fast. Make it as simple as guys can learn it so you can go really fast. That’s the key, making it simple for your players so they can play at top speed.”
Kelly’s overall message to the Patriots: Don’t put a limit on your players’ minds; they will learn whatever you teach them.
“I was interested to hear how he did it,” Belichick said. “I would say he expanded it to a different level and it was very interesting to understand what he was doing. Certainly I’ve learned a lot from talking to Chip about his experiences with it and how he does it and his procedure and all that.”
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