New Coach Discussion
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Wow these candidates names keep getting worse and worse. Sorry but a coach from the CFL??
At this point just bring back freaking Shurmur, this "aggressive" search has turned into just taking whatever is left. It's sad that the University of Akron, one of the worst football programs in the country was able to organize a better coaching "search" than a supposed NFL franchise.
Wow these candidates names keep getting worse and worse. Sorry but a coach from the CFL??
At this point just bring back freaking Shurmur, this "aggressive" search has turned into just taking whatever is left. It's sad that the University of Akron, one of the worst football programs in the country was able to organize a better coaching "search" than a supposed NFL franchise.
dude there plenty of great coaches still out there. smith zimmer haslett wisenhunt to name a few defensive guys who if you promoted jauron could take that position or become the HC. i like kyle shanahan but believe he is too young and inexperienced. i doubt if he or mcdaniels would settle on being an OC since they're better off where they are already.
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Wow these candidates names keep getting worse and worse. Sorry but a coach from the CFL??
At this point just bring back freaking Shurmur, this "aggressive" search has turned into just taking whatever is left. It's sad that the University of Akron, one of the worst football programs in the country was able to organize a better coaching "search" than a supposed NFL franchise.
dude there plenty of great coaches still out there. smith zimmer haslett wisenhunt to name a few defensive guys who if you promoted jauron could take that position or become the HC. i like kyle shanahan but believe he is too young and inexperienced. i doubt if he or mcdaniels would settle on being an OC since they're better off where they are already.
i like kyle shanahan but believe he is too young and inexperienced. i doubt if he or mcdaniels would settle on being an OC since they're better off where they are already.
Why would either of them leave playoff teams where they are the OC to come to our 5 win team for the same job? The only way either of them leave their respective teams is if they are getting a head coaching job. Neither will leave for a lateral move.
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yeah. thinking out loud is all.
mcdaniels and shanahan jr. might be able to call a good game but it doesn't mean they can lead a team. i'm gonna sound like an old fart here, but there is something to be said about experience. i mean would you respect some young punk walking into your office as your new boss? yeah you can win them over if you're winning games but if not, they're the easiest to blame and easiest to quit on.
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yeah. thinking out loud is all.
mcdaniels and shanahan jr. might be able to call a good game but it doesn't mean they can lead a team. i'm gonna sound like an old fart here, but there is something to be said about experience. i mean would you respect some young punk walking into your office as your new boss? yeah you can win them over if you're winning games but if not, they're the easiest to blame and easiest to quit on.
yeah. thinking out loud is all.
mcdaniels and shanahan jr. might be able to call a good game but it doesn't mean they can lead a team. i'm gonna sound like an old fart here, but there is something to be said about experience. i mean would you respect some young punk walking into your office as your new boss? yeah you can win them over if you're winning games but if not, they're the easiest to blame and easiest to quit on.
Then bring in someone who can win. Someone like the Harbaughs or Tomlin. Not a pantywaist like Shurmur.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
You guys are missing the real story, although a poster or two has touched upon it.
The BIG issue is not whether or not Chip Kelly will be good or not, nobody has such a chrystal ball. The real issue is that The CLeveland Browns are not able to land ANYONE they really want, whether it be a HC or a FA player.
Nobody of any value wants to play or work in Cleveland. Why is this? Certainly, speaking for myself, if I had to move to teh Cleveland area I would resent it and be depressed. This is not exactly a place that has a lot to offer people.
Is that the only reason we can't get top players and coaches?
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A young coach in Shanahan with a very young team would seem ideal IMO.
Dick Jauron as HC? Dear Lord please no. 60-82 as HC? No thanks.
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A young coach in Shanahan with a very young team would seem ideal IMO.
Dick Jauron as HC? Dear Lord please no. 60-82 as HC? No thanks.
A young coach in Shanahan with a very young team would seem ideal IMO.
Dick Jauron as HC? Dear Lord please no. 60-82 as HC? No thanks.
hey not everyone does it in their first go round. look at pete carroll and tell me you wouldn't want him as the browns HC. shanahan looks like doogie howser. a 260 lb 6'3" LB getting yelled at by a twirp? don't think so.
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Sources: No Chip Kelly for Browns
Updated: January 6, 2013, 12:42 PM ET
By Chris Mortensen | ESPN
The Cleveland Browns have decided to reboot their coach search after leaving Arizona late Sunday morning without landing Oregon's Chip Kelly, according to league sources.
Browns owner Jimmy Haslam III will renew the search at "square one" once his executive contingent, including CEO Joe Banner is stationed back in Cleveland after interviewing eight candidates in Arizona.
Kelly and Syracuse coach Doug Marrone emerged as the leading candidates but Marrone reached an agreement to become the next coach of the Buffalo Bills.
The Philadelphia Eagles are the only other NFL team known to have interviewed Kelly. League sources believe the chances of Kelly returning to Oregon were significant with a decision expected Sunday.
Kelly has built the Ducks into a national power. Oregon has gone 46-7 in the last four years and made four consecutive BCS bowl games. Kelly run's a high-octane, fast-breaking offense, and elements of his schemes are already being used by New England and Washington.
If he returns to the Eugene, Ore., campus, Kelly may be facing NCAA sanctions as the school is being investigated for recruiting violations.
Haslam and Banner had been in Arizona since firing Pat Shurmur last week. Shurmur went 9-23 in two seasons with Cleveland, which is seeking its sixth full-time coach since 1999.
Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
Sources: No Chip Kelly for Browns
Updated: January 6, 2013, 12:42 PM ET
By Chris Mortensen | ESPN
Browns owner Jimmy Haslam III will renew the search at "square one" once his executive contingent, including CEO Joe Banner is stationed back in Cleveland after interviewing eight candidates in Arizona.
Eight? What? The entire Cardinal coaching staff?? LOL...
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Glad to see Mike Zimmer get a mention or two... Hadn't thought of him until Mike Mayott mentioned him during the Texans/ Bengals broadcast. Top notch defensive coord and appears to be intense and then some. I think he's worth a look...
As for the Saban hypothetical... ummm... nope... don't see it, but wouldn't mind it. Roll Tide...
Still waiting for Tressel's name to surface...
And somewhere in the wings is a Mangenius in waiting. I know it's far from the consensus 'round here, but I think he was hosed by Holmgren out of one more year.
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A young coach in Shanahan with a very young team would seem ideal IMO.
Dick Jauron as HC? Dear Lord please no. 60-82 as HC? No thanks.
A young coach in Shanahan with a very young team would seem ideal IMO.
Dick Jauron as HC? Dear Lord please no. 60-82 as HC? No thanks.
a young Shanahan reminds me of a young David Shula...... or eegads, Chris Palmer!
Doesnt exactly have a whole lotta resume either.... just 1 year with 2 pretty good qbs
no thx to the promoting o coodinators except Arians....
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Sources: No Chip Kelly for Browns
Updated: January 6, 2013, 12:42 PM ET
By Chris Mortensen | ESPN
Browns owner Jimmy Haslam III will renew the search at "square one" once his executive contingent, including CEO Joe Banner is stationed back in Cleveland after interviewing eight candidates in Arizona.
Eight? What? The entire Cardinal coaching staff?? LOL...
Hey, common now! We got a Casino, cigars, women in hose, etc.
women in hose... lol
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Glad to see Mike Zimmer get a mention or two... Hadn't thought of him until Mike Mayott mentioned him during the Texans/ Bengals broadcast. Top notch defensive coord and appears to be intense and then some. I think he's worth a look...
As for the Saban hypothetical... ummm... nope... don't see it, but wouldn't mind it. Roll Tide...
Still waiting for Tressel's name to surface...
And somewhere in the wings is a Mangenius in waiting. I know it's far from the consensus 'round here, but I think he was hosed by Holmgren out of one more year.
Eight? What? The entire Cardinal coaching staff?? LOL...
women in hose... lol
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Glad to see Mike Zimmer get a mention or two... Hadn't thought of him until Mike Mayott mentioned him during the Texans/ Bengals broadcast. Top notch defensive coord and appears to be intense and then some. I think he's worth a look...
As for the Saban hypothetical... ummm... nope... don't see it, but wouldn't mind it. Roll Tide...
Still waiting for Tressel's name to surface...
And somewhere in the wings is a Mangenius in waiting. I know it's far from the consensus 'round here, but I think he was hosed by Holmgren out of one more year.
yes he was....
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Gipper, I disagree with your opinion about the Browns-Oilers. Granted, the Oliers weren't much of a threat to any AFC Central foes for a long time, but around 1978-1995 those were some great games- usually low scoring slugfests. I was a kid when Robert L. Jackson knocked Earl Campbell's teeth out.
Other rivalries I remember as a kid were the Vikings-Cowboys, Steelers-Raiders, Raiders-Dolphins. One of the greatest games I ever saw was when Stabler was falling down & heaved a pass to Clarence Davis to beat the Dolphins in the playoffs- it was huge, as Miami was so dominant (I think it was the 1974 playoffs, 28-26 Raiders won, and spelled the end of Miami's dynasty/great run of the early 70s).
Atlanta-New Orleans is one of the league's best rivalries, but not talked about a lot.
Personally, I love the Browns-Steelers & Browns-Bengals games the best. I also like the NFC North rivalries, although the Vikings & Lions moving indoors kind of ruined it a bit.
Gipper, I disagree with your opinion about the Browns-Oilers. Granted, the Oliers weren't much of a threat to any AFC Central foes for a long time, but around 1978-1995 those were some great games- usually low scoring slugfests. I was a kid when Robert L. Jackson knocked Earl Campbell's teeth out.
Other rivalries I remember as a kid were the Vikings-Cowboys, Steelers-Raiders, Raiders-Dolphins. One of the greatest games I ever saw was when Stabler was falling down & heaved a pass to Clarence Davis to beat the Dolphins in the playoffs- it was huge, as Miami was so dominant (I think it was the 1974 playoffs, 28-26 Raiders won, and spelled the end of Miami's dynasty/great run of the early 70s).
Atlanta-New Orleans is one of the league's best rivalries, but not talked about a lot.
Personally, I love the Browns-Steelers & Browns-Bengals games the best. I also like the NFC North rivalries, although the Vikings & Lions moving indoors kind of ruined it a bit.
Well, here again...you seem to be saying that a rivalry is created simply because two teams are vying for an important prize....AFC/NFC title, Super Bowl, whatever.
I mean, presuppose that in the next several years the Cleveland Browns and the Jacksonville Jaguars ascend to become the prime contenders for the AFC title. Say they meet in the AFC title game a couple of times.
How is a true rivalry created there? Simply by virtue of the fact that they were both good teams trying to win the same ring? I say no. I say that the Raiders/Steelers "rivalry" was simply a happenstance that both were the best teams in the AFC in the 1970s...but that no natural rivalry exists between them....any more than exists between those 2010s powers Browns and Jaguars. (or those 1980s rivals Browns and Broncos)
See my point?
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Just how in the hell did my "Lost Rivalries" thread get mixed into the New Coach Discussion?
WTF is up with that?
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Who was the homo a couple years back all fired up for the Browns to hire Gruden. Whoever you were....you might get your wish:
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/01/cleveland_browns_might_pursue.html
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Who was the homo a couple years back all fired up for the Browns to hire Gruden. Whoever you were....you might get your wish:
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/01/cleveland_browns_might_pursue.html
Who was the homo a couple years back all fired up for the Browns to hire Gruden. Whoever you were....you might get your wish:
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/01/cleveland_browns_might_pursue.html
If Mary Kay Cabot wrote it, you can bet it's not true.
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Who was the homo a couple years back all fired up for the Browns to hire Gruden. Whoever you were....you might get your wish:
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/01/cleveland_browns_might_pursue.html
Who was the homo a couple years back all fired up for the Browns to hire Gruden. Whoever you were....you might get your wish:
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/01/cleveland_browns_might_pursue.html
WRRebel is his name. loves gruden. would probably have his baby if only.........
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Wrrebel, haven't seen him for a while he must have found a boyfriend.
I noticed rg3 to cle popped his head in I wonder if he's trollin the KC boards with some gino 2 kc name.
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Yeah I doubt they even interview Gruden. The article/tweets have all said "might". The way things are going with this cluster of a search, I won't believe anything until I see a coach on the sidelines in September. Having said that, at least Gruden is better than the rest of the depressing "candidates" being interviewed.
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This shit is starting to get old.
"All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer
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