Who Should Make The Hof Cut?
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I don't see how Parcells doesn't get in along with Strahan and Andre Reed. Ogden and Lynch are likely to get in but maybe not this year.
I don't see how Parcells doesn't get in along with Strahan and Andre Reed. Ogden and Lynch are likely to get in but maybe not this year.
Well, yes, only a max of 5 from the non Senior list can get in. I was kind of waiting until the 15 finalists were announced to ask what you thought from that list. Some guys may not end up making the final 15 that you think should be in the final 5.
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People who have been a finalist 4 or more times but have not been elected, yet:
Cris Carter 4
Andre Reed 5
Bob Keuchenberg 8
Ray Guy 7
Claude Humphries 4
LC Greenwood 6
Lester Hayes 4
Jerry Kramer 10
Johnny Robinson 6
Charley Conerly 7
Only those first two are on the semifinals list.
I may have confused Dave Robinson with Johnny Robinson.....but, I see that no, I haven't.
Dave Robinson was the LB for the Packers during the 60s/70s.
Johnny Robinson...who was with the Chiefs as a DB during the 60s/70s is the guy that was a 6 time finalist.
It is Dave Robinson who is up now for the HOF.
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There are currently 27 Semi-Finalists for the PFHOF class of 2013. Any day now this number will be cut from 27 to 15 plus 2 senior members. Here is the list. Who does or does not make the cut in your view?:
Larry Allen, G/T – 1994-2005 Dallas Cowboys, 2006-07 San Francisco 49ers
Morten Andersen, K – 1982-1994 New Orleans Saints, 1995-2000, 2006-07 Atlanta Falcons, 2001 New York Giants, 2002-03 Kansas City Chiefs, 2004 Minnesota Vikings
Steve Atwater, S – 1989-1998 Denver Broncos, 1999 New York Jets
Jerome Bettis, RB – 1993-95 Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, 1996-2005 Pittsburgh Steelers
Tim Brown, WR/KR – 1988-2003 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders, 2004 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Cris Carter, WR – 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins
Don Coryell, Coach – 1973-77 St. Louis Cardinals, 1978-1986 San Diego Chargers
Roger Craig, RB – 1983-1990 San Francisco 49ers, 1991 Los Angeles Raiders, 1992-93 Minnesota Vikings
Terrell Davis, RB – 1995-2001 Denver Broncos
Edward DeBartolo, Jr., Owner – 1977-2000 San Francisco 49ers
Kevin Greene, LB/DE – 1985-1992 Los Angeles Rams, 1993-95 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1996, 1998-99 Carolina Panthers, 1997 San Francisco 49ers
Charles Haley, DE/LB – 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys
Joe Jacoby, T – 1981-1993 Washington Redskins
Albert Lewis, CB – 1983-1993 Kansas City Chiefs, 1994-98 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders
John Lynch, FS – 1993-2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2004-07 Denver Broncos
Karl Mecklenburg, LB – 1983-1994 Denver Broncos
Art Modell, Owner – 1961-1995 Cleveland Browns, 1996-2011 Baltimore Ravens
Jonathan Ogden, T – 1996-2007 Baltimore Ravens
Bill Parcells, Coach – 1983-1990 New York Giants, 1993-96 New England Patriots, 1997-99 New York Jets, 2003-06 Dallas Cowboys
Andre Reed, WR – 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins
Warren Sapp, DT – 1995-2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2004-07 Oakland Raiders
Will Shields, G – 1993-2006 Kansas City Chiefs
Michael Strahan, DE – 1993-2007 New York Giants
Paul Tagliabue, Commissioner – 1989-2006 National Football League
Steve Tasker, ST/WR – 1985-86 Houston Oilers, 1986-1997 Buffalo Bills
Aeneas Williams, CB/S – 1991-2000 Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals, 2001-04 St. Louis Rams
George Young, Contributor – 1968-1974 Baltimore Colts, 1975-78 Miami Dolphins, 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 National Football League
Senior members are former Packer LB Dave Robinson and Curly Culp Oilers LB
There are currently 27 Semi-Finalists for the PFHOF class of 2013. Any day now this number will be cut from 27 to 15 plus 2 senior members. Here is the list. Who does or does not make the cut in your view?:
Larry Allen, G/T – 1994-2005 Dallas Cowboys, 2006-07 San Francisco 49ers
Cris Carter, WR – 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins
Don Coryell, Coach – 1973-77 St. Louis Cardinals, 1978-1986 San Diego Chargers
Charles Haley, DE/LB – 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys
Bill Parcells, Coach – 1983-1990 New York Giants, 1993-96 New England Patriots, 1997-99 New York Jets, 2003-06 Dallas Cowboys
George Young, Contributor – 1968-1974 Baltimore Colts, 1975-78 Miami Dolphins, 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 National Football League
Senior members are former Packer LB Dave Robinson and Curly Culp Oilers LB
That's who I'd vote for.
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There are currently 27 Semi-Finalists for the PFHOF class of 2013. Any day now this number will be cut from 27 to 15 plus 2 senior members. Here is the list. Who does or does not make the cut in your view?:
Larry Allen, G/T – 1994-2005 Dallas Cowboys, 2006-07 San Francisco 49ers
Morten Andersen, K – 1982-1994 New Orleans Saints, 1995-2000, 2006-07 Atlanta Falcons, 2001 New York Giants, 2002-03 Kansas City Chiefs, 2004 Minnesota Vikings
Steve Atwater, S – 1989-1998 Denver Broncos, 1999 New York Jets
Jerome Bettis, RB – 1993-95 Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, 1996-2005 Pittsburgh Steelers
Tim Brown, WR/KR – 1988-2003 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders, 2004 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Cris Carter, WR – 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins
Don Coryell, Coach – 1973-77 St. Louis Cardinals, 1978-1986 San Diego Chargers
Roger Craig, RB – 1983-1990 San Francisco 49ers, 1991 Los Angeles Raiders, 1992-93 Minnesota Vikings
Terrell Davis, RB – 1995-2001 Denver Broncos
Edward DeBartolo, Jr., Owner – 1977-2000 San Francisco 49ers
Kevin Greene, LB/DE – 1985-1992 Los Angeles Rams, 1993-95 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1996, 1998-99 Carolina Panthers, 1997 San Francisco 49ers
Charles Haley, DE/LB – 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys
Joe Jacoby, T – 1981-1993 Washington Redskins
Albert Lewis, CB – 1983-1993 Kansas City Chiefs, 1994-98 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders
John Lynch, FS – 1993-2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2004-07 Denver Broncos
Karl Mecklenburg, LB – 1983-1994 Denver Broncos
Art Modell, Owner – 1961-1995 Cleveland Browns, 1996-2011 Baltimore Ravens
Jonathan Ogden, T – 1996-2007 Baltimore Ravens
Bill Parcells, Coach – 1983-1990 New York Giants, 1993-96 New England Patriots, 1997-99 New York Jets, 2003-06 Dallas Cowboys
Andre Reed, WR – 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins
Warren Sapp, DT – 1995-2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2004-07 Oakland Raiders
Will Shields, G – 1993-2006 Kansas City Chiefs
Michael Strahan, DE – 1993-2007 New York Giants
Paul Tagliabue, Commissioner – 1989-2006 National Football League
Steve Tasker, ST/WR – 1985-86 Houston Oilers, 1986-1997 Buffalo Bills
Aeneas Williams, CB/S – 1991-2000 Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals, 2001-04 St. Louis Rams
George Young, Contributor – 1968-1974 Baltimore Colts, 1975-78 Miami Dolphins, 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 National Football League
Senior members are former Packer LB Dave Robinson and Curly Culp Oilers LB
There are currently 27 Semi-Finalists for the PFHOF class of 2013. Any day now this number will be cut from 27 to 15 plus 2 senior members. Here is the list. Who does or does not make the cut in your view?:
/Larry Allen, G/T – 1994-2005 Dallas Cowboys, 2006-07 San Francisco 49ers
Morten Andersen, K – 1982-1994 New Orleans Saints, 1995-2000, 2006-07 Atlanta Falcons, 2001 New York Giants, 2002-03 Kansas City Chiefs, 2004 Minnesota Vikings
Steve Atwater, S – 1989-1998 Denver Broncos, 1999 New York Jets
Jerome Bettis, RB – 1993-95 Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, 1996-2005 Pittsburgh Steelers
Tim Brown, WR/KR – 1988-2003 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders, 2004 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Cris Carter, WR – 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins
Don Coryell, Coach – 1973-77 St. Louis Cardinals, 1978-1986 San Diego Chargers
Roger Craig, RB – 1983-1990 San Francisco 49ers, 1991 Los Angeles Raiders, 1992-93 Minnesota Vikings
Terrell Davis, RB – 1995-2001 Denver Broncos
Edward DeBartolo, Jr., Owner – 1977-2000 San Francisco 49ers
Kevin Greene, LB/DE – 1985-1992 Los Angeles Rams, 1993-95 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1996, 1998-99 Carolina Panthers, 1997 San Francisco 49ers
Charles Haley, DE/LB – 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys
Joe Jacoby, T – 1981-1993 Washington Redskins
Albert Lewis, CB – 1983-1993 Kansas City Chiefs, 1994-98 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders
John Lynch, FS – 1993-2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2004-07 Denver Broncos
Karl Mecklenburg, LB – 1983-1994 Denver Broncos
Art Modell, Owner – 1961-1995 Cleveland Browns, 1996-2011 Baltimore Ravens
Jonathan Ogden, T – 1996-2007 Baltimore Ravens
Bill Parcells, Coach – 1983-1990 New York Giants, 1993-96 New England Patriots, 1997-99 New York Jets, 2003-06 Dallas Cowboys
Andre Reed, WR – 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins
Warren Sapp, DT – 1995-2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2004-07 Oakland Raiders
Will Shields, G – 1993-2006 Kansas City Chiefs
Michael Strahan, DE – 1993-2007 New York Giants
Paul Tagliabue, Commissioner – 1989-2006 National Football League
Steve Tasker, ST/WR – 1985-86 Houston Oilers, 1986-1997 Buffalo Bills
Aeneas Williams, CB/S – 1991-2000 Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals, 2001-04 St. Louis Rams
George Young, Contributor – 1968-1974 Baltimore Colts, 1975-78 Miami Dolphins, 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 National Football League
Senior members are former Packer LB Dave Robinson and Curly Culp Oilers LB
The others, it doesn't matter to me.
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There are currently 27 Semi-Finalists for the PFHOF class of 2013. Any day now this number will be cut from 27 to 15 plus 2 senior members. Here is the list. Who does or does not make the cut in your view?:
Larry Allen, G/T – 1994-2005 Dallas Cowboys, 2006-07 San Francisco 49ers
Morten Andersen, K – 1982-1994 New Orleans Saints, 1995-2000, 2006-07 Atlanta Falcons, 2001 New York Giants, 2002-03 Kansas City Chiefs, 2004 Minnesota Vikings
Steve Atwater, S – 1989-1998 Denver Broncos, 1999 New York Jets
Jerome Bettis, RB – 1993-95 Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, 1996-2005 Pittsburgh Steelers
Tim Brown, WR/KR – 1988-2003 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders, 2004 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Cris Carter, WR – 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins
Don Coryell, Coach – 1973-77 St. Louis Cardinals, 1978-1986 San Diego Chargers
Roger Craig, RB – 1983-1990 San Francisco 49ers, 1991 Los Angeles Raiders, 1992-93 Minnesota Vikings
Terrell Davis, RB – 1995-2001 Denver Broncos
Edward DeBartolo, Jr., Owner – 1977-2000 San Francisco 49ers
Kevin Greene, LB/DE – 1985-1992 Los Angeles Rams, 1993-95 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1996, 1998-99 Carolina Panthers, 1997 San Francisco 49ers
Charles Haley, DE/LB – 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys
Joe Jacoby, T – 1981-1993 Washington Redskins
Albert Lewis, CB – 1983-1993 Kansas City Chiefs, 1994-98 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders
John Lynch, FS – 1993-2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2004-07 Denver Broncos
Karl Mecklenburg, LB – 1983-1994 Denver Broncos
Art Modell, Owner – 1961-1995 Cleveland Browns, 1996-2011 Baltimore Ravens
Jonathan Ogden, T – 1996-2007 Baltimore Ravens
Bill Parcells, Coach – 1983-1990 New York Giants, 1993-96 New England Patriots, 1997-99 New York Jets, 2003-06 Dallas Cowboys
Andre Reed, WR – 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins
Warren Sapp, DT – 1995-2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2004-07 Oakland Raiders
Will Shields, G – 1993-2006 Kansas City Chiefs
Michael Strahan, DE – 1993-2007 New York Giants
Paul Tagliabue, Commissioner – 1989-2006 National Football League
Steve Tasker, ST/WR – 1985-86 Houston Oilers, 1986-1997 Buffalo Bills
Aeneas Williams, CB/S – 1991-2000 Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals, 2001-04 St. Louis Rams
George Young, Contributor – 1968-1974 Baltimore Colts, 1975-78 Miami Dolphins, 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 National Football League
Senior members are former Packer LB Dave Robinson and Curly Culp Oilers LB
There are currently 27 Semi-Finalists for the PFHOF class of 2013. Any day now this number will be cut from 27 to 15 plus 2 senior members. Here is the list. Who does or does not make the cut in your view?:
Larry Allen, G/T – 1994-2005 Dallas Cowboys, 2006-07 San Francisco 49ers
Morten Andersen, K – 1982-1994 New Orleans Saints, 1995-2000, 2006-07 Atlanta Falcons, 2001 New York Giants, 2002-03 Kansas City Chiefs, 2004 Minnesota Vikings
Steve Atwater, S – 1989-1998 Denver Broncos, 1999 New York Jets
Jerome Bettis, RB – 1993-95 Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, 1996-2005 Pittsburgh Steelers
Tim Brown, WR/KR – 1988-2003 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders, 2004 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Cris Carter, WR – 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins
Don Coryell, Coach – 1973-77 St. Louis Cardinals, 1978-1986 San Diego Chargers
Roger Craig, RB – 1983-1990 San Francisco 49ers, 1991 Los Angeles Raiders, 1992-93 Minnesota Vikings
Terrell Davis, RB – 1995-2001 Denver Broncos
Edward DeBartolo, Jr., Owner – 1977-2000 San Francisco 49ers
Kevin Greene, LB/DE – 1985-1992 Los Angeles Rams, 1993-95 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1996, 1998-99 Carolina Panthers, 1997 San Francisco 49ers
Charles Haley, DE/LB – 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys
Joe Jacoby, T – 1981-1993 Washington Redskins
Albert Lewis, CB – 1983-1993 Kansas City Chiefs, 1994-98 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders
John Lynch, FS – 1993-2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2004-07 Denver Broncos
Karl Mecklenburg, LB – 1983-1994 Denver Broncos
Art Modell, Owner – 1961-1995 Cleveland Browns, 1996-2011 Baltimore Ravens
Jonathan Ogden, T – 1996-2007 Baltimore Ravens
Bill Parcells, Coach – 1983-1990 New York Giants, 1993-96 New England Patriots, 1997-99 New York Jets, 2003-06 Dallas Cowboys
Andre Reed, WR – 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins
Warren Sapp, DT – 1995-2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2004-07 Oakland Raiders
Will Shields, G – 1993-2006 Kansas City Chiefs
Michael Strahan, DE – 1993-2007 New York Giants
Paul Tagliabue, Commissioner – 1989-2006 National Football League
Steve Tasker, ST/WR – 1985-86 Houston Oilers, 1986-1997 Buffalo Bills
Aeneas Williams, CB/S – 1991-2000 Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals, 2001-04 St. Louis Rams
George Young, Contributor – 1968-1974 Baltimore Colts, 1975-78 Miami Dolphins, 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 National Football League
Senior members are former Packer LB Dave Robinson and Curly Culp Oilers LB
Can't say i am thrilled about choosing Modell but it will likely happen. These are my 5. Would love to see Aeneas Williams and Chris Carter get in this year.
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Modell won't ever get in. He moved one of the most STORIED teams......FOR MONEY.
that's why no Irsay will ever get in.
Modell is dead and let him be that way............ for EVER
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Carter should have been a first ballot lock. Tim Brown is overdue, Andersen holds the scoring record.
Never to Schmodell, though he may get the sympathy vote.
Carter should have been a first ballot lock. Tim Brown is overdue, Andersen holds the scoring record.
Never to Schmodell, though he may get the sympathy vote.
What good will the sympathy vote do Modell. He is fucking dead. His corpse won't care.
And why is he a better candidate now that he is dead? Did he do something else beside croak? And why would they put someone in the Hall of Fame that they kicked out of the league. Why not Victor Kiam?
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Great list..
Id go Anderson,Carter,Mecklenberg (the guy was a beast) and always in on the play.
Tim Brown.
Charles Haley.
John Lynch. One of My fave Safeties to watch.
But back to Mecklenberg. I always saw him and Clay Mathews pretty simular..Just a load on Defense. I hated Denver and Elway but,Mecklenburg and Lynch always got My respect.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Art Modell should have gotten in on the first try.
The city of Cleveland is a cancer to pro football. As soon as Modell left the wretched place he won the SB.
He was instrumental in modernizing the NFL bringing advertizing to it full blast, he is the only owner to ever win twho world championships with two different franchises.
The records show that CLeveland did a fuck job and literally forced Modell to move. They tried to force Modell to sell but it backfired.
Proof? The fucking city and team can't do shit without him.
Out of respect to this man, the HOF should ONLY INDUCT HIM this go around. The rest of the people on this list are douchebag lightweights.
Actually "Ghoolie" glad you moved to a more retched place, chocolate city Memphis.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Art Modell should have gotten in on the first try.
The city of Cleveland is a cancer to pro football. As soon as Modell left the wretched place he won the SB.
He was instrumental in modernizing the NFL bringing advertizing to it full blast, he is the only owner to ever win twho world championships with two different franchises.
The records show that CLeveland did a fuck job and literally forced Modell to move. They tried to force Modell to sell but it backfired.
Proof? The fucking city and team can't do shit without him.
Out of respect to this man, the HOF should ONLY INDUCT HIM this go around. The rest of the people on this list are douchebag lightweights.
Lest We forgot what a lousy manager of money Art was. He was a lackey and, A liar...both him and the city were at fault but. Thats behind us now...No..No HOF for you pig bastard Art...May you rot in hell..heres the tool that hired Shittencrapper,Bud"Lights" out Carson and bellycrap. Overpaid Andre Rison...LOL...He was a dufus Tom.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Art Modell should have gotten in on the first try.
The city of Cleveland is a cancer to pro football. As soon as Modell left the wretched place he won the SB.
He was instrumental in modernizing the NFL bringing advertizing to it full blast, he is the only owner to ever win twho world championships with two different franchises.
The records show that CLeveland did a fuck job and literally forced Modell to move. They tried to force Modell to sell but it backfired.
Proof? The fucking city and team can't do shit without him.
Out of respect to this man, the HOF should ONLY INDUCT HIM this go around. The rest of the people on this list are douchebag lightweights.
Blah, blah, blah, blah. Let's induct ole Adolph and Uncle Joe Stalin into the Humanitarian Hall of Fame.
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