Browns Practice With Geno Smith
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The Bills WILL trade up to 3, 4, or 6 to get Geno, I am almost certain. I think the best we can get out of them is an early third rounder b/c they know we will not be missing out on much by only trading back 2 spots. Plus, according to the draft value chart, their 3rd rounder is worth more than the difference between #6 and #8. I'd rather have that now, than a 2nd rounder next year which is the other possibility.
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Zombo said:
And if they get "Blown Away", then Weeden becomes a 30 year old backup, the Geno Smith era begins, and Colt McCoy goes to live with Poetic G's cat.
If they want to go that route, I am fine with it.
Zombo
Is it the route I would go... no. If he is a better option than he will be the fourth black qb to go to the superbowl (excluding Kapernick not sure what he is, but his new girlfriend has some nice titties) and the second one to win the big one.
Is it the route I would go... no. If he is a better option than he will be the fourth black qb to go to the superbowl (excluding Kapernick not sure what he is, but his new girlfriend has some nice titties) and the second one to win the big one.
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Is it the route I would go... no. If he is a better option than he will be the fourth black qb to go to the superbowl (excluding Kapernick not sure what he is, but his new girlfriend has some nice titties) and the second one to win the big one.
Zombo said:
Fake
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Zombo said:
Fake
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He is not like Cam Newton in terms of running the ball, but in throwing it he is. He can run if needed but he is a true pocket passer, with a great arm. According to reports from his pro day he was extremely impressive and can make all the throws. For what that is worth. I have been feeling for weeks that we are going to take him if he is there at 6. However I would be completely shocked if he is there at 6. My guess is he goes in the top 3. His pro day reviews were simple to good, and quarterbacks are hot commodities.
The fact that we have not sniffed the Ryan Fitzpatriicks, Kevin Kolbs and Matt Cassels of the world leads me further to believe they may have an interest in Smith. Can't seeing the new adminstration jumping for joy that they inherited Brandon Weeden as the starter and Colt McCoy as the backup. They didn't draft them, if they can find better they will.
Zombo
Zombo said:
The fact that we have not sniffed the Ryan Fitzpatriicks, Kevin Kolbs and Matt Cassels of the world leads me further to believe they may have an interest in Smith. Can't seeing the new adminstration jumping for joy that they inherited Brandon Weeden as the starter and Colt McCoy as the backup. They didn't draft them, if they can find better they will.
Zombo
Word is however that the Browns have been sniffing around Jason Campbell. Which excites me none. What? Did Lombardi draft him or bring him to Oakland? That is the only reason that I can fathom that they would have interest in him.
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What does this mean for the 2013 Browns draft?
PHOENIX, Ariz. -- The Cleveland Browns, who have the No. 6 overall pick in the NFL draft, will conduct a private workout with West Virginia quarterback Geno Smith, a league source said.
Also, Browns CEO Joe Banner reiterated at the NFL meetings today that quarterback is not the focus at No. 6, but he didn't rule out taking one early, late or in the middle of the draft.
He said the club will do everything possible to have the best players at every position.
He declined to say if the Browns inquired about trading for Patriots backup quarterback Ryan Mallett, which reportedly they have done.
He also said he has a great deal of respect for quarterback Colt McCoy and that whoever is on the roster will have a fair shot to win the starting job.
Other quick hits from Banner's 25-minute session with Cleveland media members at the meetings:
• He said a new scoreboard is in the plans for FirstEnergy Stadium, but it won't be in place for the 2013 season.
• New uniforms are also in the works, but they won't be ready until 2014 at the earliest "and probably not '14.'' He said it takes at least 4-6 months of market research first.
• He said he will not attend any Pro Days himself, nor will owner Jimmy Haslam. But Browns GM Mike Lombardi will.
• He said Lombardi is not out in front of the media right now because "he's a little bit of a lightning rod'' and Banner want Lombardi to focus on his job for awhile.
• He said he never had any rift with Eagles owner Jeff Lurie over the coach Chip Kelly sweepstakes.
* Banner said he doubts the Browns will receive any compensatory picks this year from net losses in 2012 free agency.
* He said once Phil Dawson signs somewhere -- whether with the Browns or elsewhere -- it will make sense why Banner was reluctant to address Dawson's situation.
Of course this is mainly speculation but damn, could CLE really take Geno at 6 or trade up for him? Is Weeden gonna compete with a 1st round draft pick?
Is Weeden gonna compete with a 1st round draft pick?
Well, it's not uncommon for a 30yr old aging veteran to have to compete against a 1st round draft pick at any position.
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Zombo said:
The fact that we have not sniffed the Ryan Fitzpatriicks, Kevin Kolbs and Matt Cassels of the world leads me further to believe they may have an interest in Smith. Can't seeing the new adminstration jumping for joy that they inherited Brandon Weeden as the starter and Colt McCoy as the backup. They didn't draft them, if they can find better they will.
Zombo
Word is however that the Browns have been sniffing around Jason Campbell. Which excites me none. What? Did Lombardi draft him or bring him to Oakland? That is the only reason that I can fathom that they would have interest in him.
Word is however that the Browns have been sniffing around Jason Campbell. Which excites me none. What? Did Lombardi draft him or bring him to Oakland? That is the only reason that I can fathom that they would have interest in him.
Campbell was having a pretty solid season last year before he got hurt in the game against us. Then he was out for the season and the Raiders panicked and gave away the farm and then some to get Carson Palmer up off his couch.
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I would not be opposed to taking Smith. IMO that would be a better pick at 6 for us than Milliner.
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I actually think another reason could be that Dawson might be deciding whether or not he wants to retire or return. If so I think the Browns owe it to him to let him make the announcement rather than start rumors saying that he is considering retiring. They can always say later that they offered him a contract and he said he was either going to return to the Browns or retire. He decided after talking to his family to retire. That way everybody looks good.
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The only reason we are going to watch Geno is to stir the pot so other teams think we have interest so that we can get a 2nd round pick to give tender to Pitta...as Chud said, we have the biggest and brightest stars in the room at QB, they just need to find the switch to turn themselves on.
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The only reason we are going to watch Geno is to stir the pot so other teams think we have interest so that we can get a 2nd round pick to give tender to Pitta...as Chud said, we have the biggest and brightest stars in the room at QB, they just need to find the switch to turn themselves on.
The only reason we are going to watch Geno is to stir the pot so other teams think we have interest so that we can get a 2nd round pick to give tender to Pitta...as Chud said, we have the biggest and brightest stars in the room at QB, they just need to find the switch to turn themselves on.
Is this an unfounded PG-esque love affair with a player that I smell?
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I don't think the argument about wasting last years first round pick would stop the current FO from taking Smith if they did like him.
In a way it would follow their current policy of basically saying everything done previously was shit and we are starting from scratch in another direction. Saying the Weeden pick was a waste would look to prove their point.
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I don't think the argument about wasting last years first round pick would stop the current FO from taking Smith if they did like him.
In a way it would follow their current policy of basically saying everything done previously was shit and we are starting from scratch in another direction. Saying the Weeden pick was a waste would look to prove their point.
I don't think the argument about wasting last years first round pick would stop the current FO from taking Smith if they did like him.
In a way it would follow their current policy of basically saying everything done previously was shit and we are starting from scratch in another direction. Saying the Weeden pick was a waste would look to prove their point.
And it would be a recycling of the same old crap we have been suffering through for 13 years now. Every two years some new asshole comes in and wants to get rid of everyone here just so they can put "their guy" in place, damned to hell how good or bad the guys here are or are not.
If these guys bring in a new first round QB, then that sumbitch better play for the next 8-10 years.
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We actually agree. Even after what they've done in free agency I'd still take an Ansah/Jones type and give Weeden another year with better play calling and a season experience behind him.
Sorry to disappoint...
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Let me get a handle on this: The Browns tried to get Alex Smith... and they won't STOP trying to get Ryan Mallett... but we think they'd pass on Geno Smith at #6, which he'll never get to?
Why? Because we don't wanna waste a high draft pick on a meaningless position like quarterback? Or because we've demonstrated such deep commitment to Weeden?
Of course he's in play. But he won't get to #6.
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Let me get a handle on this: The Browns tried to get Alex Smith... and they won't STOP trying to get Ryan Mallett... but we think they'd pass on Geno Smith at #6, which he'll never get to?
Why? Because we don't wanna waste a high draft pick on a meaningless position like quarterback? Or because we've demonstrated such deep commitment to Weeden?
Of course he's in play. But he won't get to #6.
Let me get a handle on this: The Browns tried to get Alex Smith... and they won't STOP trying to get Ryan Mallett... but we think they'd pass on Geno Smith at #6, which he'll never get to?
Why? Because we don't wanna waste a high draft pick on a meaningless position like quarterback? Or because we've demonstrated such deep commitment to Weeden?
Of course he's in play. But he won't get to #6.
Yeah, and if the Browns really like him- they don't have near the ammo to move up like they did last year.
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Let me get a handle on this: The Browns tried to get Alex Smith... and they won't STOP trying to get Ryan Mallett... but we think they'd pass on Geno Smith at #6, which he'll never get to?
Why? Because we don't wanna waste a high draft pick on a meaningless position like quarterback? Or because we've demonstrated such deep commitment to Weeden?
Of course he's in play. But he won't get to #6.
Let me get a handle on this: The Browns tried to get Alex Smith... and they won't STOP trying to get Ryan Mallett... but we think they'd pass on Geno Smith at #6, which he'll never get to?
Why? Because we don't wanna waste a high draft pick on a meaningless position like quarterback? Or because we've demonstrated such deep commitment to Weeden?
Of course he's in play. But he won't get to #6.
No one knows for certain that the Browns tried for Alex Smith, nor that they are interested in Mallet. The interest is probably all one sided in that BB may very well be trying to dump his wasted QB pick on the Browns and get something in return for him , rather than just cutting him. Before he does that though he wants to see if there is a fish who will bite and he thinks that Lombardi may just be dumb enough to do that.
Though, I agree, it would not surprise me to see the likes of AZ or Buff try to move up to snatch Geno. Desperate times call for desperate measures. And both of those teams are desperate for a QB.
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@mike-h said:
Watch Smith's highlights against Iowa State in the wind last season. Scary.
And nice call on 49ers wanting Dawson, Larry.
Is it scary good? Or scary bad?
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@mike-h said:
Watch Smith's highlights against Iowa State in the wind last season. Scary.
And nice call on 49ers wanting Dawson, Larry.
Is it scary good? Or scary bad?
Is it scary good? Or scary bad?
Id say its both a combo of good and bad. He had some overthrows, batted balls, and some short inaccurate throws as well.
BUT he did have some good downfield throws with the wind at his back, also he can run the ball and does look like hes got the highly touted arm strength everyones talkin about.
Only if this regime trades big time for a higher pick I doubt we nab Geno. He actually looks pretty solid in thta vid tho.
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This is just weird. Everyone says that this draft class is SO weak at QB, and there may not even be a first round worthy QB at all! Now Smith might not even make it to six??? I guess this is just all the bullshit in the months leading up to the draft?
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