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Hello all, I'm writing a fictional story about a die hard Browns fan and I would like to ask you all what it means to be a Browns fan. I'm doing my research now, but if you think there's anything pertinent about the Browns' history I should know,I would appreciate any insight. Thanks in advance!
Hello all, I'm writing a fictional story about a die hard Browns fan and I would like to ask you all what it means to be a Browns fan. I'm doing my research now, but if you think there's anything pertinent about the Browns' history I should know,I would appreciate any insight. Thanks in advance!
A few things you should know:
1. The Cleveland Browns have 8 titles, only the Packers and Bears have more
2. The Browns under Paul Brown and Otto Graham appeared in 10 consecutive championship games. 4 in the AAFC, all victories, and 6 straight after joining the NFL, splitting them 3-3. No pro football team has ever appeared in 6 consecutive title games as the Browns did in the NFL so much as 10 straight.
3. The Dolphins are NOT the only team to go undefeated untied in a season. The Browns did it in 1948.
4. Jim Brown is considered the greatest player in football history, only Jerry Rice gets some talk in that category.
5. Northeast Ohio has won the most football titles of any metro region in the nation, tied with Green Bay.
6. There is a reason the Pro Football Hall of Fame is in Northeast Ohio, the NFL was founded here.
7. Cleveland is the only city to keep its franchise after the attempted move by a greedy owner.
8. And note: the Cleveland Browns franchise NEVER left Cleveland. That team in Baltimore was NEVER the Cleveland Browns. It was a new franchise created by the NFL, it was NOT a "moved" franchise", thus it is totally unlike the Colts, Cardinals, Titans, Rams, and others that have moved. The Browns never moved.
9. The Browns have the largest organized fan base in the sport. Maybe not the largest following, but the largest fan base.
10. The Steelers suck, be most assured of that. A large portion of their fan base are FRAKS...FrontRunnerAssKissers who will abandon them after a year or two of losing.
11. Brown and Orange are the colors of fall, the colors of dirt and jack o lanterns, the colors of football.
12. Browns fans don't need logos/cheerleaders/mascots. They just need a good football team, finally.
13. Browns fans are the most loyal fans in the NFL, to a fault perhaps. Only maybe the Packers fans can compete with them on that score.
There is a Baker's dozen to get you started. If you need more data, feel free to ask.
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Hello all, I'm writing a fictional story about a die hard Browns fan and I would like to ask you all what it means to be a Browns fan. I'm doing my research now, but if you think there's anything pertinent about the Browns' history I should know,I would appreciate any insight. Thanks in advance!
A few things you should know:
1. The Cleveland Browns have 8 titles, only the Packers and Bears have more
2. The Browns under Paul Brown and Otto Graham appeared in 10 consecutive championship games. 4 in the AAFC, all victories, and 6 straight after joining the NFL, splitting them 3-3. No pro football team has ever appeared in 6 consecutive title games as the Browns did in the NFL so much as 10 straight.
3. The Dolphins are NOT the only team to go undefeated untied in a season. The Browns did it in 1948.
4. Jim Brown is considered the greatest player in football history, only Jerry Rice gets some talk in that category.
5. Northeast Ohio has won the most football titles of any metro region in the nation, tied with Green Bay.
6. There is a reason the Pro Football Hall of Fame is in Northeast Ohio, the NFL was founded here.
7. Cleveland is the only city to keep its franchise after the attempted move by a greedy owner.
8. And note: the Cleveland Browns franchise NEVER left Cleveland. That team in Baltimore was NEVER the Cleveland Browns. It was a new franchise created by the NFL, it was NOT a "moved" franchise", thus it is totally unlike the Colts, Cardinals, Titans, Rams, and others that have moved. The Browns never moved.
9. The Browns have the largest organized fan base in the sport. Maybe not the largest following, but the largest fan base.
10. The Steelers suck, be most assured of that. A large portion of their fan base are FRAKS...FrontRunnerAssKissers who will abandon them after a year or two of losing.
11. Brown and Orange are the colors of fall, the colors of dirt and jack o lanterns, the colors of football.
12. Browns fans don't need logos/cheerleaders/mascots. They just need a good football team, finally.
13. Browns fans are the most loyal fans in the NFL, to a fault perhaps. Only maybe the Packers fans can compete with them on that score.
There is a Baker's dozen to get you started. If you need more data, feel free to ask.
A few things you should know:
1. The Cleveland Browns have 8 titles, only the Packers and Bears have more
2. The Browns under Paul Brown and Otto Graham appeared in 10 consecutive championship games. 4 in the AAFC, all victories, and 6 straight after joining the NFL, splitting them 3-3. No pro football team has ever appeared in 6 consecutive title games as the Browns did in the NFL so much as 10 straight.
3. The Dolphins are NOT the only team to go undefeated untied in a season. The Browns did it in 1948.
4. Jim Brown is considered the greatest player in football history, only Jerry Rice gets some talk in that category.
5. Northeast Ohio has won the most football titles of any metro region in the nation, tied with Green Bay.
6. There is a reason the Pro Football Hall of Fame is in Northeast Ohio, the NFL was founded here.
7. Cleveland is the only city to keep its franchise after the attempted move by a greedy owner.
8. And note: the Cleveland Browns franchise NEVER left Cleveland. That team in Baltimore was NEVER the Cleveland Browns. It was a new franchise created by the NFL, it was NOT a "moved" franchise", thus it is totally unlike the Colts, Cardinals, Titans, Rams, and others that have moved. The Browns never moved.
9. The Browns have the largest organized fan base in the sport. Maybe not the largest following, but the largest fan base.
10. The Steelers suck, be most assured of that. A large portion of their fan base are FRAKS...FrontRunnerAssKissers who will abandon them after a year or two of losing.
11. Brown and Orange are the colors of fall, the colors of dirt and jack o lanterns, the colors of football.
12. Browns fans don't need logos/cheerleaders/mascots. They just need a good football team, finally.
13. Browns fans are the most loyal fans in the NFL, to a fault perhaps. Only maybe the Packers fans can compete with them on that score.
There is a Baker's dozen to get you started. If you need more data, feel free to ask.
It sounds like you're either trying to convince yourself of many of these or draw Vagitron or whoever our of the woodwork.
Dial it back a little, buddy.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
Hello all, I'm writing a fictional story about a die hard Browns fan and I would like to ask you all what it means to be a Browns fan. I'm doing my research now, but if you think there's anything pertinent about the Browns' history I should know,I would appreciate any insight. Thanks in advance!
A few things you should know:
1. The Cleveland Browns have 8 titles, only the Packers and Bears have more
2. The Browns under Paul Brown and Otto Graham appeared in 10 consecutive championship games. 4 in the AAFC, all victories, and 6 straight after joining the NFL, splitting them 3-3. No pro football team has ever appeared in 6 consecutive title games as the Browns did in the NFL so much as 10 straight.
3. The Dolphins are NOT the only team to go undefeated untied in a season. The Browns did it in 1948.
4. Jim Brown is considered the greatest player in football history, only Jerry Rice gets some talk in that category.
5. Northeast Ohio has won the most football titles of any metro region in the nation, tied with Green Bay.
6. There is a reason the Pro Football Hall of Fame is in Northeast Ohio, the NFL was founded here.
7. Cleveland is the only city to keep its franchise after the attempted move by a greedy owner.
8. And note: the Cleveland Browns franchise NEVER left Cleveland. That team in Baltimore was NEVER the Cleveland Browns. It was a new franchise created by the NFL, it was NOT a "moved" franchise", thus it is totally unlike the Colts, Cardinals, Titans, Rams, and others that have moved. The Browns never moved.
9. The Browns have the largest organized fan base in the sport. Maybe not the largest following, but the largest fan base.
10. The Steelers suck, be most assured of that. A large portion of their fan base are FRAKS...FrontRunnerAssKissers who will abandon them after a year or two of losing.
11. Brown and Orange are the colors of fall, the colors of dirt and jack o lanterns, the colors of football.
12. Browns fans don't need logos/cheerleaders/mascots. They just need a good football team, finally.
13. Browns fans are the most loyal fans in the NFL, to a fault perhaps. Only maybe the Packers fans can compete with them on that score.
There is a Baker's dozen to get you started. If you need more data, feel free to ask.
A few things you should know:
1. The Cleveland Browns have 8 titles, only the Packers and Bears have more
2. The Browns under Paul Brown and Otto Graham appeared in 10 consecutive championship games. 4 in the AAFC, all victories, and 6 straight after joining the NFL, splitting them 3-3. No pro football team has ever appeared in 6 consecutive title games as the Browns did in the NFL so much as 10 straight.
3. The Dolphins are NOT the only team to go undefeated untied in a season. The Browns did it in 1948.
4. Jim Brown is considered the greatest player in football history, only Jerry Rice gets some talk in that category.
5. Northeast Ohio has won the most football titles of any metro region in the nation, tied with Green Bay.
6. There is a reason the Pro Football Hall of Fame is in Northeast Ohio, the NFL was founded here.
7. Cleveland is the only city to keep its franchise after the attempted move by a greedy owner.
8. And note: the Cleveland Browns franchise NEVER left Cleveland. That team in Baltimore was NEVER the Cleveland Browns. It was a new franchise created by the NFL, it was NOT a "moved" franchise", thus it is totally unlike the Colts, Cardinals, Titans, Rams, and others that have moved. The Browns never moved.
9. The Browns have the largest organized fan base in the sport. Maybe not the largest following, but the largest fan base.
10. The Steelers suck, be most assured of that. A large portion of their fan base are FRAKS...FrontRunnerAssKissers who will abandon them after a year or two of losing.
11. Brown and Orange are the colors of fall, the colors of dirt and jack o lanterns, the colors of football.
12. Browns fans don't need logos/cheerleaders/mascots. They just need a good football team, finally.
13. Browns fans are the most loyal fans in the NFL, to a fault perhaps. Only maybe the Packers fans can compete with them on that score.
There is a Baker's dozen to get you started. If you need more data, feel free to ask.
So are the Steelers your biggest rival now? O knew they were before Art Modell "moved" the team to Baltimore but I thought that might have boosted them to your biggest rival
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A few things you should know:
1. The Cleveland Browns have 8 titles, only the Packers and Bears have more
2. The Browns under Paul Brown and Otto Graham appeared in 10 consecutive championship games. 4 in the AAFC, all victories, and 6 straight after joining the NFL, splitting them 3-3. No pro football team has ever appeared in 6 consecutive title games as the Browns did in the NFL so much as 10 straight.
3. The Dolphins are NOT the only team to go undefeated untied in a season. The Browns did it in 1948.
4. Jim Brown is considered the greatest player in football history, only Jerry Rice gets some talk in that category.
5. Northeast Ohio has won the most football titles of any metro region in the nation, tied with Green Bay.
6. There is a reason the Pro Football Hall of Fame is in Northeast Ohio, the NFL was founded here.
7. Cleveland is the only city to keep its franchise after the attempted move by a greedy owner.
8. And note: the Cleveland Browns franchise NEVER left Cleveland. That team in Baltimore was NEVER the Cleveland Browns. It was a new franchise created by the NFL, it was NOT a "moved" franchise", thus it is totally unlike the Colts, Cardinals, Titans, Rams, and others that have moved. The Browns never moved.
9. The Browns have the largest organized fan base in the sport. Maybe not the largest following, but the largest fan base.
10. The Steelers suck, be most assured of that. A large portion of their fan base are FRAKS...FrontRunnerAssKissers who will abandon them after a year or two of losing.
11. Brown and Orange are the colors of fall, the colors of dirt and jack o lanterns, the colors of football.
12. Browns fans don't need logos/cheerleaders/mascots. They just need a good football team, finally.
13. Browns fans are the most loyal fans in the NFL, to a fault perhaps. Only maybe the Packers fans can compete with them on that score.
There is a Baker's dozen to get you started. If you need more data, feel free to ask.
So are the Steelers your biggest rival now? O knew they were before Art Modell "moved" the team to Baltimore but I thought that might have boosted them to your biggest rival
So are the Steelers your biggest rival now? O knew they were before Art Modell "moved" the team to Baltimore but I thought that might have boosted them to your biggest rival
Most Browns fans consider the Steelers the biggest rival, but most Steelers fans see the Browns as an afterthought. We've only beaten them 5 times since returning to the league in 99. The Browns franchise is storied, as Gipper has pointed out, but for young fans like me, all I've ever known was the Belichick years (where he made his mistakes before transcending human existence in New England), followed by Modell moving the team (and not caring about football for 3 years), then the return of our dysfunctional franchise with a front office carousel. Hopefully this regime gets it right. I'm a huge fan, but really, the history of the franchise doesn't do much for me. The videos I posted, while funny, pretty much sum up the majority of autumn Sundays.
It's just been two decades of disappointments and let downs.
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A few things you should know:
1. The Cleveland Browns have 8 titles, only the Packers and Bears have more
2. The Browns under Paul Brown and Otto Graham appeared in 10 consecutive championship games. 4 in the AAFC, all victories, and 6 straight after joining the NFL, splitting them 3-3. No pro football team has ever appeared in 6 consecutive title games as the Browns did in the NFL so much as 10 straight.
3. The Dolphins are NOT the only team to go undefeated untied in a season. The Browns did it in 1948.
4. Jim Brown is considered the greatest player in football history, only Jerry Rice gets some talk in that category.
5. Northeast Ohio has won the most football titles of any metro region in the nation, tied with Green Bay.
6. There is a reason the Pro Football Hall of Fame is in Northeast Ohio, the NFL was founded here.
7. Cleveland is the only city to keep its franchise after the attempted move by a greedy owner.
8. And note: the Cleveland Browns franchise NEVER left Cleveland. That team in Baltimore was NEVER the Cleveland Browns. It was a new franchise created by the NFL, it was NOT a "moved" franchise", thus it is totally unlike the Colts, Cardinals, Titans, Rams, and others that have moved. The Browns never moved.
9. The Browns have the largest organized fan base in the sport. Maybe not the largest following, but the largest fan base.
10. The Steelers suck, be most assured of that. A large portion of their fan base are FRAKS...FrontRunnerAssKissers who will abandon them after a year or two of losing.
11. Brown and Orange are the colors of fall, the colors of dirt and jack o lanterns, the colors of football.
12. Browns fans don't need logos/cheerleaders/mascots. They just need a good football team, finally.
13. Browns fans are the most loyal fans in the NFL, to a fault perhaps. Only maybe the Packers fans can compete with them on that score.
There is a Baker's dozen to get you started. If you need more data, feel free to ask.
It sounds like you're either trying to convince yourself of many of these or draw Vagitron or whoever our of the woodwork.
Dial it back a little, buddy.
It sounds like you're either trying to convince yourself of many of these or draw Vagitron or whoever our of the woodwork.
Dial it back a little, buddy.
I don't have to convince myself of anything. These are simple, actual facts, like 2+2=4. And as I understood it, the guy wanted facts.
Do you dispute any of these facts?
Edit: OK, maybe the "Steelers Suck" is an opinion...but an enlightened one
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A few things you should know:
1. The Cleveland Browns have 8 titles, only the Packers and Bears have more
2. The Browns under Paul Brown and Otto Graham appeared in 10 consecutive championship games. 4 in the AAFC, all victories, and 6 straight after joining the NFL, splitting them 3-3. No pro football team has ever appeared in 6 consecutive title games as the Browns did in the NFL so much as 10 straight.
3. The Dolphins are NOT the only team to go undefeated untied in a season. The Browns did it in 1948.
4. Jim Brown is considered the greatest player in football history, only Jerry Rice gets some talk in that category.
5. Northeast Ohio has won the most football titles of any metro region in the nation, tied with Green Bay.
6. There is a reason the Pro Football Hall of Fame is in Northeast Ohio, the NFL was founded here.
7. Cleveland is the only city to keep its franchise after the attempted move by a greedy owner.
8. And note: the Cleveland Browns franchise NEVER left Cleveland. That team in Baltimore was NEVER the Cleveland Browns. It was a new franchise created by the NFL, it was NOT a "moved" franchise", thus it is totally unlike the Colts, Cardinals, Titans, Rams, and others that have moved. The Browns never moved.
9. The Browns have the largest organized fan base in the sport. Maybe not the largest following, but the largest fan base.
10. The Steelers suck, be most assured of that. A large portion of their fan base are FRAKS...FrontRunnerAssKissers who will abandon them after a year or two of losing.
11. Brown and Orange are the colors of fall, the colors of dirt and jack o lanterns, the colors of football.
12. Browns fans don't need logos/cheerleaders/mascots. They just need a good football team, finally.
13. Browns fans are the most loyal fans in the NFL, to a fault perhaps. Only maybe the Packers fans can compete with them on that score.
There is a Baker's dozen to get you started. If you need more data, feel free to ask.
So are the Steelers your biggest rival now? O knew they were before Art Modell "moved" the team to Baltimore but I thought that might have boosted them to your biggest rival
So are the Steelers your biggest rival now? O knew they were before Art Modell "moved" the team to Baltimore but I thought that might have boosted them to your biggest rival
The Steelers were never not the Browns biggest rival. The Ravens, while worthy of scorn and disparagement, were never our big rival. We hated a couple people associated therewith, i.e, Modell and son, but that team was never on a par with the Steelers. It would be like a guy who had a life long rivalry with a brother, who then acquired an insipid bastard stepchild. There may be justifiable disrespect for that bastard, but the enmity he holds for his life feud partner is still paramount. You have respect, and even a little admiration for your brother, none for the bastard.
Edit: And at this point, though the Ravens may still be bastards, they are no longer our stepchild as we have divorced their mother (with Modell's death), and they are just another entity out there that we have to put up with.
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So are the Steelers your biggest rival now? O knew they were before Art Modell "moved" the team to Baltimore but I thought that might have boosted them to your biggest rival
Most Browns fans consider the Steelers the biggest rival, but most Steelers fans see the Browns as an afterthought. We've only beaten them 5 times since returning to the league in 99. The Browns franchise is storied, as Gipper has pointed out, but for young fans like me, all I've ever known was the Belichick years (where he made his mistakes before transcending human existence in New England), followed by Modell moving the team (and not caring about football for 3 years), then the return of our dysfunctional franchise with a front office carousel. Hopefully this regime gets it right. I'm a huge fan, but really, the history of the franchise doesn't do much for me. The videos I posted, while funny, pretty much sum up the majority of autumn Sundays.
It's just been two decades of disappointments and let downs.
Most Browns fans consider the Steelers the biggest rival, but most Steelers fans see the Browns as an afterthought. We've only beaten them 5 times since returning to the league in 99. The Browns franchise is storied, as Gipper has pointed out, but for young fans like me, all I've ever known was the Belichick years (where he made his mistakes before transcending human existence in New England), followed by Modell moving the team (and not caring about football for 3 years), then the return of our dysfunctional franchise with a front office carousel. Hopefully this regime gets it right. I'm a huge fan, but really, the history of the franchise doesn't do much for me. The videos I posted, while funny, pretty much sum up the majority of autumn Sundays.
It's just been two decades of disappointments and let downs.
I am 61. In my conscious Life I can only remember the 1964 title. Too young for the mid-50s title, yet I know the history of this team. Perhaps you need to illuminate yourself on that history so that you can appreciate it. Apparently, for you, that would include the 80s and the Kosar years. That said, there is no doubt that it is time for this team to start making some new positive history
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By the way, perhaps I should claim copyright protection on my thoughts and information, after all, if you use any of this in your novella I should perhaps be compensated?
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Most Browns fans consider the Steelers the biggest rival, but most Steelers fans see the Browns as an afterthought. We've only beaten them 5 times since returning to the league in 99. The Browns franchise is storied, as Gipper has pointed out, but for young fans like me, all I've ever known was the Belichick years (where he made his mistakes before transcending human existence in New England), followed by Modell moving the team (and not caring about football for 3 years), then the return of our dysfunctional franchise with a front office carousel. Hopefully this regime gets it right. I'm a huge fan, but really, the history of the franchise doesn't do much for me. The videos I posted, while funny, pretty much sum up the majority of autumn Sundays.
It's just been two decades of disappointments and let downs.
I am 61. In my conscious Life I can only remember the 1964 title. Too young for the mid-50s title, yet I know the history of this team. Perhaps you need to illuminate yourself on that history so that you can appreciate it. Apparently, for you, that would include the 80s and the Kosar years. That said, there is no doubt that it is time for this team to start making some new positive history
I am 61. In my conscious Life I can only remember the 1964 title. Too young for the mid-50s title, yet I know the history of this team. Perhaps you need to illuminate yourself on that history so that you can appreciate it. Apparently, for you, that would include the 80s and the Kosar years. That said, there is no doubt that it is time for this team to start making some new positive history
The time I really started remembering the Browns was when Testaverde was under center. I'm very aware of the history. We were an unstoppable force when Groza and Graham had the field. In the 60's it was Jim Brown. I guess in the 70's we weren't that great, but Turkey Jones threw Terry Bradshaw on his head, so there's that. The late 80s it was Kosar, Minnifield, Dixon, and Byner and fuck John Elway. By the way, when I was an undergrad, he and his daughter visited my campus, I saw them on tour and told him to never return to Ohio.
While I don't remember the games, I remember my family's excitement during the time. I acknowledge that we had some great teams. For me, however, we've been anything but. The most exciting teams I've had to cheer for were the Couch/Holcomb first round exit and DA, BE, and K2's fluke year (the 2007 Seahawks game was the most exciting game I've ever seen in my life). We've had two winning seasons since 1999, and that's all I've really known, so you'll have to excuse me if I don't really care to hear about how great we used to be. Our team and city has been the laughingstock of sports entertainment for as long as I can remember. I'm sick of this place being the butt in every sports joke.
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A few things you should know:
1. The Cleveland Browns have 8 titles, only the Packers and Bears have more
2. The Browns under Paul Brown and Otto Graham appeared in 10 consecutive championship games. 4 in the AAFC, all victories, and 6 straight after joining the NFL, splitting them 3-3. No pro football team has ever appeared in 6 consecutive title games as the Browns did in the NFL so much as 10 straight.
3. The Dolphins are NOT the only team to go undefeated untied in a season. The Browns did it in 1948.
4. Jim Brown is considered the greatest player in football history, only Jerry Rice gets some talk in that category.
5. Northeast Ohio has won the most football titles of any metro region in the nation, tied with Green Bay.
6. There is a reason the Pro Football Hall of Fame is in Northeast Ohio, the NFL was founded here.
7. Cleveland is the only city to keep its franchise after the attempted move by a greedy owner.
8. And note: the Cleveland Browns franchise NEVER left Cleveland. That team in Baltimore was NEVER the Cleveland Browns. It was a new franchise created by the NFL, it was NOT a "moved" franchise", thus it is totally unlike the Colts, Cardinals, Titans, Rams, and others that have moved. The Browns never moved.
9. The Browns have the largest organized fan base in the sport. Maybe not the largest following, but the largest fan base.
10. The Steelers suck, be most assured of that. A large portion of their fan base are FRAKS...FrontRunnerAssKissers who will abandon them after a year or two of losing.
11. Brown and Orange are the colors of fall, the colors of dirt and jack o lanterns, the colors of football.
12. Browns fans don't need logos/cheerleaders/mascots. They just need a good football team, finally.
13. Browns fans are the most loyal fans in the NFL, to a fault perhaps. Only maybe the Packers fans can compete with them on that score.
There is a Baker's dozen to get you started. If you need more data, feel free to ask.
It sounds like you're either trying to convince yourself of many of these or draw Vagitron or whoever our of the woodwork.
Dial it back a little, buddy.
It sounds like you're either trying to convince yourself of many of these or draw Vagitron or whoever our of the woodwork.
Dial it back a little, buddy.
Dude, which of those points would you dispute? Gipper speaks the truth. He could expand on the tradition of Northeast Ohio football to the most successfull college football program in NCAA history (Mount Union), but that would take up oodles more space than your brain could absorb.
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Zombo said:
Those small, childlike hands are creepy.
Zombo
Well, he looks about 12, so that could explain it.
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So are the Steelers your biggest rival now? O knew they were before Art Modell "moved" the team to Baltimore but I thought that might have boosted them to your biggest rival
The Steelers were never not the Browns biggest rival. The Ravens, while worthy of scorn and disparagement, were never our big rival. We hated a couple people associated therewith, i.e, Modell and son, but that team was never on a par with the Steelers. It would be like a guy who had a life long rivalry with a brother, who then acquired an insipid bastard stepchild. There may be justifiable disrespect for that bastard, but the enmity he holds for his life feud partner is still paramount. You have respect, and even a little admiration for your brother, none for the bastard.
Edit: And at this point, though the Ravens may still be bastards, they are no longer our stepchild as we have divorced their mother (with Modell's death), and they are just another entity out there that we have to put up with.
The Steelers were never not the Browns biggest rival. The Ravens, while worthy of scorn and disparagement, were never our big rival. We hated a couple people associated therewith, i.e, Modell and son, but that team was never on a par with the Steelers. It would be like a guy who had a life long rivalry with a brother, who then acquired an insipid bastard stepchild. There may be justifiable disrespect for that bastard, but the enmity he holds for his life feud partner is still paramount. You have respect, and even a little admiration for your brother, none for the bastard.
Edit: And at this point, though the Ravens may still be bastards, they are no longer our stepchild as we have divorced their mother (with Modell's death), and they are just another entity out there that we have to put up with.
I think the fact that we used to be competitive with the Steelers and owned them during the 80's makes us latch onto them as our biggest rivals. The fact that we've never really been competitive with the Ravens ever caused most fans to give up mentally and write the rivalry off since it's always been so one sided and that's all we've ever known.
The Ravens were most hated at the beginning of the new era Browns, but it has died out,same with the Bengals because we view them as even keel .
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Hello all, I'm writing a fictional story about a die hard Browns fan and I would like to ask you all what it means to be a Browns fan. I'm doing my research now, but if you think there's anything pertinent about the Browns' history I should know,I would appreciate any insight. Thanks in advance!
Hello all, I'm writing a fictional story about a die hard Browns fan and I would like to ask you all what it means to be a Browns fan. I'm doing my research now, but if you think there's anything pertinent about the Browns' history I should know,I would appreciate any insight. Thanks in advance!
Clevelanders are blue collar people, made up of mostly 2nd,3rd and 4th generation immigrants,Irish,Polish,Italian, if you only count the whites.
Cleveland sports in my lifetime (born in 80) has been filled with what ifs and almosts, full of let downs.
Jordan killing us, the drive,the fumble,Browns moving,Lebron leaving, 95 world series,97..
If you are going to make a story about a Browns fan I would suggest making the character a Clevelander first, based off of the more popular Boston characters we've seen in movies but with a Cleveland theme.
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Hello all, I'm writing a fictional story about a die hard Browns fan and I would like to ask you all what it means to be a Browns fan. I'm doing my research now, but if you think there's anything pertinent about the Browns' history I should know,I would appreciate any insight. Thanks in advance!
Clevelanders are blue collar people, made up of mostly 2nd,3rd and 4th generation immigrants,Irish,Polish,Italian, if you only count the whites.
Cleveland sports in my lifetime (born in 80) has been filled with what ifs and almosts, full of let downs.
Jordan killing us, the drive,the fumble,Browns moving,Lebron leaving, 95 world series,97..
If you are going to make a story about a Browns fan I would suggest making the character a Clevelander first, based off of the more popular Boston characters we've seen in movies but with a Cleveland theme.
Clevelanders are blue collar people, made up of mostly 2nd,3rd and 4th generation immigrants,Irish,Polish,Italian, if you only count the whites.
Cleveland sports in my lifetime (born in 80) has been filled with what ifs and almosts, full of let downs.
Jordan killing us, the drive,the fumble,Browns moving,Lebron leaving, 95 world series,97..
If you are going to make a story about a Browns fan I would suggest making the character a Clevelander first, based off of the more popular Boston characters we've seen in movies but with a Cleveland theme.
And when you are doing that don't forget beer drinking and Rock n' Roll music. Two things that are deeply woven into the fabric of most Clevelanders.
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