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  • i am a mccoy fan that will say to the bitter end that he never got a fair shake here in cleveland.

    now our new regime is doing the same song and dance with weeden and campbell saying how they will give a fair and even QB competition like shurmur and holmgren said last year about mccoy and weeds.

    let's see if it holds true, or if they are a bunch of liars like the last regime.

    mccoy and tebow on the same team? yeah we could have put them in a wilddawg offense....mccoy fumbling the ball, tebow picking it up and throwing it out of bounds 20 yards.

    great scheme.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    i am a mccoy fan that will say to the bitter end that he never got a fair shake here in cleveland.

    now our new regime is doing the same song and dance with weeden and campbell saying how they will give a fair and even QB competition like shurmur and holmgren said last year about mccoy and weeds.

    let's see if it holds true, or if they are a bunch of liars like the last regime.

    mccoy and tebow on the same team? yeah we could have put them in a wilddawg offense....mccoy fumbling the ball, tebow picking it up and throwing it out of bounds 20 yards.

    great scheme.

    @miktoxic said:

    i am a mccoy fan that will say to the bitter end that he never got a fair shake here in cleveland.

    great scheme.

    McCoy's "fair shake" is a trip to back up Kaepernic (maybe) for a seventh round pick. We're not talking Joe Montana here.

    Mik- you think H&H- (before they drafted Weeden) or the rest of the NFL (before the trade) didn't watch tape on Colt? He was worth a sack of seed. Yup, Shur-loss sucked as a coach, he didn't have any weapons, yada, yada.

    I liked Charlie Frye too- and there's a ton of parallels.

    👍

  • There is no comparison between McCoy and McFrye other than the prefix to their last name; it's a shame that you can't see that. But that's okay, go along with the sheep and the mindless masses and believe everything they tell you. It takes a real man to have conviction in the face of nonsensical and preposterous assumptions.

    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • only reason i liked frye was cuz he played his college ball in ohio (akron)?

    as well as roethlisberger who we all hate.

    the MAC is stepping up and people should recognize.

  • PoeticGP PoeticG

    There is no comparison between McCoy and McFrye other than the prefix to their last name; it's a shame that you can't see that. But that's okay, go along with the sheep and the mindless masses and believe everything they tell you. It takes a real man to have conviction in the face of nonsensical and preposterous assumptions.

    @poeticg said:

    There is no comparison between McCoy and McFrye other than the prefix to their last name; it's a shame that you can't see that. But that's okay, go along with the sheep and the mindless masses and believe everything they tell you. It takes a real man to have conviction in the face of nonsensical and preposterous assumptions.

    The problem with you is that you CAN'T see that McCoy and Frye really were quite similar.

    I mean, I would have loved if either or both of those guys really had turned out to be THE guy. But they weren't. They just weren't good enough.

    And, apparently, it is only your equine pheramone intoxication that disallows you to see that.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @poeticg said:

    There is no comparison between McCoy and McFrye other than the prefix to their last name; it's a shame that you can't see that. But that's okay, go along with the sheep and the mindless masses and believe everything they tell you. It takes a real man to have conviction in the face of nonsensical and preposterous assumptions.

    The problem with you is that you CAN'T see that McCoy and Frye really were quite similar.

    I mean, I would have loved if either or both of those guys really had turned out to be THE guy. But they weren't. They just weren't good enough.

    And, apparently, it is only your equine pheramone intoxication that disallows you to see that.

    @the-gipper said:

    The problem with you is that you CAN'T see that McCoy and Frye really were quite similar.

    I mean, I would have loved if either or both of those guys really had turned out to be THE guy. But they weren't. They just weren't good enough.

    And, apparently, it is only your equine pheramone intoxication that disallows you to see that.

    The only thing that was different between the two was that Frye turned out to be completely unlikable and hard to root for even though he did play for the Browns. McCoy is exactly the opposite. While he wasn't the answer in Cleveland, I hope he has a nice long career in the league.

  • C calfoxwc

    This is interesting from Rotoworld:

    BTW, this is how it works when you have real coaches coaching:

    "Coach Rob Chudzinski was not ready to commit to Brandon Weeden as the starting quarterback on Thursday.

    "I feel good about where we're at right now," Chudzinski said. "He's been working with the first group and we'll just see as we go forward. ... Right now it's too early to say anything one way or another." The Browns brought in Jason Campbell as a free agent, but that's all they've done to bolster the position. "I expect both of these guys to compete," Chud added. "I'm hoping that the best man wins the job and that he gives us a chance to win." It's typical coachspeak.
    The Browns have been working on Weeden's mechanics and delivery,
    and he's the overwhelming favorite to open the season as the starter.

    @calfoxwc said:

    This is interesting from Rotoworld:

    BTW, this is how it works when you have real coaches coaching:

    "Coach Rob Chudzinski was not ready to commit to Brandon Weeden as the starting quarterback on Thursday.

    "I feel good about where we're at right now," Chudzinski said. "He's been working with the first group and we'll just see as we go forward. ... Right now it's too early to say anything one way or another." The Browns brought in Jason Campbell as a free agent, but that's all they've done to bolster the position. "I expect both of these guys to compete," Chud added. "I'm hoping that the best man wins the job and that he gives us a chance to win." It's typical coachspeak.
    The Browns have been working on Weeden's mechanics and delivery,
    and he's the overwhelming favorite to open the season as the starter.

    Browns could have really heped Weeden by acquiring a decent tighte end who can get open and catch the ball. Alas, and incredibly stupidly, they did not. Browns may have the worst group of TE's in pro football. And that hurts Weeden a lot.

    miktoxicM thenew23T 2 Replies
  • A Assmunch

    @calfoxwc said:

    This is interesting from Rotoworld:

    BTW, this is how it works when you have real coaches coaching:

    "Coach Rob Chudzinski was not ready to commit to Brandon Weeden as the starting quarterback on Thursday.

    "I feel good about where we're at right now," Chudzinski said. "He's been working with the first group and we'll just see as we go forward. ... Right now it's too early to say anything one way or another." The Browns brought in Jason Campbell as a free agent, but that's all they've done to bolster the position. "I expect both of these guys to compete," Chud added. "I'm hoping that the best man wins the job and that he gives us a chance to win." It's typical coachspeak.
    The Browns have been working on Weeden's mechanics and delivery,
    and he's the overwhelming favorite to open the season as the starter.

    Browns could have really heped Weeden by acquiring a decent tighte end who can get open and catch the ball. Alas, and incredibly stupidly, they did not. Browns may have the worst group of TE's in pro football. And that hurts Weeden a lot.

    Skeptical2013 said:

    Browns could have really heped Weeden by acquiring a decent tighte end who can get open and catch the ball. Alas, and incredibly stupidly, they did not. Browns may have the worst group of TE's in pro football. And that hurts Weeden a lot.

    i don't think that's true. watson we should have never let walk, but you have marvelous norv turner who is supposedly a TE guru (much like holmgren was with QBs...ha ha...cuz they coached a couple of hall of famers) ........

    just saying cameron's athletic ability is off the charts. now if he can play nfl football or not should be the question.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    Skeptical2013 said:

    Browns could have really heped Weeden by acquiring a decent tighte end who can get open and catch the ball. Alas, and incredibly stupidly, they did not. Browns may have the worst group of TE's in pro football. And that hurts Weeden a lot.

    i don't think that's true. watson we should have never let walk, but you have marvelous norv turner who is supposedly a TE guru (much like holmgren was with QBs...ha ha...cuz they coached a couple of hall of famers) ........

    just saying cameron's athletic ability is off the charts. now if he can play nfl football or not should be the question.

    @miktoxic said:

    i don't think that's true. watson we should have never let walk, but you have marvelous norv turner who is supposedly a TE guru (much like holmgren was with QBs...ha ha...cuz they coached a couple of hall of famers) ........

    just saying cameron's athletic ability is off the charts. now if he can play nfl football or not should be the question.

    Perhaps Turner can do with Jordan Cameron what he did with Antonio Gates.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @miktoxic said:

    i don't think that's true. watson we should have never let walk, but you have marvelous norv turner who is supposedly a TE guru (much like holmgren was with QBs...ha ha...cuz they coached a couple of hall of famers) ........

    just saying cameron's athletic ability is off the charts. now if he can play nfl football or not should be the question.

    Perhaps Turner can do with Jordan Cameron what he did with Antonio Gates.

    @the-gipper said:

    Perhaps Turner can do with Jordan Cameron what he did with Antonio Gates.

    I like your thinking, but Gates was already an All-Pro when Turner arrived on the scene. Marty Schottenheimer and his OC Cam Cameron were there for Gates breakout, and possibly two best seasons. Turner used him very well also though.

    I think, next to Weeden, Cameron is the big question mark that needs to be answered this year, and we are expecting/hoping that the new staff will elevate both of them.

    Meanwhile, most Browns fans I know aren't quite sure if his name is Jordan Cameron or Cameron Jordan.

    Zombo

  • A Assmunch

    @calfoxwc said:

    This is interesting from Rotoworld:

    BTW, this is how it works when you have real coaches coaching:

    "Coach Rob Chudzinski was not ready to commit to Brandon Weeden as the starting quarterback on Thursday.

    "I feel good about where we're at right now," Chudzinski said. "He's been working with the first group and we'll just see as we go forward. ... Right now it's too early to say anything one way or another." The Browns brought in Jason Campbell as a free agent, but that's all they've done to bolster the position. "I expect both of these guys to compete," Chud added. "I'm hoping that the best man wins the job and that he gives us a chance to win." It's typical coachspeak.
    The Browns have been working on Weeden's mechanics and delivery,
    and he's the overwhelming favorite to open the season as the starter.

    Browns could have really heped Weeden by acquiring a decent tighte end who can get open and catch the ball. Alas, and incredibly stupidly, they did not. Browns may have the worst group of TE's in pro football. And that hurts Weeden a lot.

    Skeptical2013 said:

    Browns could have really heped Weeden by acquiring a decent tighte end who can get open and catch the ball. Alas, and incredibly stupidly, they did not. Browns may have the worst group of TE's in pro football. And that hurts Weeden a lot.

    Cameron had some great games last year, but also disappeared at times. But, I think he played well enough when he was in to warrant the starting positition especially given his size and athleticism. Adding 2 vets to back him up, especially good run-blockers, rounds out a solid TE group. It all depends on Cameron's consistency getting open, which we have all seen he is capable of doing...

    Who would we have replaced him with that we know would be better, when we don't even know how good he is as a starter at this point in his career?

    #Justsayin'
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