2013 Highschool Football Season !
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Gipper, while I normally enjoy your posts, this topic is not your strong suit. Nor mine.
You have a predetermined stance on public vs. privates So whether you want to enhance your posts with quips such as 'hello, mc fly' or the ostrich approach, you still don't present any facts or proof of any illegal recruiting or scholarships for athletics.
OHSAA doesn't wan't to lose the revenue by separating the privates, its a slippery slope and the publics would surely be on the wrong side if it came to not having OHSAA in charge of ALL highschool athletics. A super league of parochials would have zero need to even be affiliated with OHSAA therefor allowing the so called recruiting at will.
The current format for divisions and playoffs was restructured this year. No matter though the public schools still win the higher % of all state championships across the board for highschool athletics.
Gipper, while I normally enjoy your posts, this topic is not your strong suit. Nor mine.
You have a predetermined stance on public vs. privates So whether you want to enhance your posts with quips such as 'hello, mc fly' or the ostrich approach, you still don't present any facts or proof of any illegal recruiting or scholarships for athletics.
Just because I can't see the dead rats body doesn't mean I can't smell the stench.
OHSAA doesn't wan't to lose the revenue by separating the privates, its a slippery slope and the publics would surely be on the wrong side if it came to not having OHSAA in charge of ALL highschool athletics. A super league of parochials would have zero need to even be affiliated with OHSAA therefor allowing the so called recruiting at will.
The current format for divisions and playoffs was restructured this year. No matter though the public schools still win the higher % of all state championships across the board for highschool athletics.
Will they? Look at this chart:
Since the mid-70s Wadsworth is the ONLY public school to win a big school wrestling title in 40 years. I seems more like a 70-30 split with most sports over the last half century practically in favor of private schools.
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First of all to address the question "Can Mentor be revelent this season?" ... Relevant? They were just picked #1 by Cleveland.com, I've seen them ranked #4 in Ohio in one poll and #5 in another. I've even seen a listing as anywhere from #14 to #54 in the Country. I think they will be very much relevant and we will find out pretty early with them playing McDowell in week #1 and Iggy in week #2.
The WR (Conner Krizancic a Cincinnati recruit) who is stepping up to play QB this season after the departure of Trubisky to North Carolina, is a hell of an athlete. He was Mentors guard last year on Mentor's State Champion basketball team (his father was the coach). He's a player, I'm looking forward to watching him ball.
If you listen to Mentor's coach talk, it's all about how under-sized Mentor was last season and how much weight-lifting has bulked up both lines on a team that is returning (16) Starters. They will field an experience defense this season that will shoulder much more than what Trubisky had to over-come last year. Also 6'-4" WR Brandon Fritts (another North Carolina recruit) will still be a handful for opponents to harness.
If Coach Triv is speaking with confidence about the upcoming season, I'm backing him. The guy has done a tremendous job at Mentor and no one can count them out until they are out. They got killed by Ignatius in week #3 last season and did nothing but get better and better and better until they peaked in the playoffs. 16 of them boys are picking up where they left off, it's Iggy (who has taken on some injuries already and are fielding new players at QB & RB) that may have to prove they are relevant.
I'd like to see Glenville take down St. Ed's in the opener. The 'ville has Ed's in week #1 and an improved Solon team in week #2 ... great scheduling to stay in-state and play those two powerhouses.
Now to address the recruiting aspect. You are damn right they recruit, they (Ed's & Iggy) recruit, they hand out Scholarships for crying out loud. I have friends who's kids play for those programs and the schools contacted them with offers, not vice-versa. How about when Iggy was to have an off-year a few years back until they flew in the best player from Colorado to QB their team? They won a State Championship behind the kid in a year that had no business being there. Hell, Glenville had a pipeline of kids from the Atlanta area who wanted to play for OSU and came to Glenville for their pipeline to Tressel.
With that said, we Mentorites like the competition. It is what it is until the rules ever get changed. I like the public school underdogs, puts a chip on their shoulders to route them gravy spoon-fed fags at the all-boy schools.
Can't wait for Friday Night!
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I know Mentor will be good, losing Trubisky is a huge hole to fill. His games against Ed's and Iggy were the best back to back games Ohio has ever seen in my opinion.
Glenville should be pumped to have Ginn back on the sidelines. Solon is gonna need help to stay close in the Glenville game.
Toledo has churned out some strong teams also, would be nice to see them travel a little further East.
Its hard not to be jealous of some of the better programs, but they still have to work hard also.
(who has Mentor at #14 nationally??)
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I think Mentor is over rated.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
The perennial state powers are once again at the top of the preseason rankings.
St. X
St. Iggy
St. Eds
Cinn Moeller
Can Mentor be revelent this season?
Will Glenville rise to the top of D2?
An interesting note is that a majority of the top ranked teams also have the most difficult schedules in the state...
Who comes out on top?
The perennial state powers are once again at the top of the preseason rankings.
St. X
St. Iggy
St. Eds
Cinn Moeller
Can Mentor be revelent this season?
Will Glenville rise to the top of D2?
An interesting note is that a majority of the top ranked teams also have the most difficult schedules in the state...
Who comes out on top?
Uhm, where can you find the rankings. I have been trying to do a search but can't seem to come up with it.
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National rankings are Rivals, Maxpreps, the PD has a local teams ranking.
There are forum rankings like JJHuddle, JoeEitle and Dan Pastarini(sp)
USA Today I think also has a national ranking, the only thing in common is that they all have a different top 10.....
The PD rankings are the only I can find that have Mentor #1.
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National rankings are Rivals, Maxpreps, the PD has a local teams ranking.
There are forum rankings like JJHuddle, JoeEitle and Dan Pastarini(sp)
USA Today I think also has a national ranking, the only thing in common is that they all have a different top 10.....
The PD rankings are the only I can find that have Mentor #1.
National rankings are Rivals, Maxpreps, the PD has a local teams ranking.
There are forum rankings like JJHuddle, JoeEitle and Dan Pastarini(sp)
USA Today I think also has a national ranking, the only thing in common is that they all have a different top 10.....
The PD rankings are the only I can find that have Mentor #1.
Doesn't the AP have a high school ranking? They always used to. I did search it but didn't find it. Did they give it up and just let the computer rankings serve?
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Mentor fumbled the ball into the endzone for a safety to dig themselves in an 0-9 deficit. McDowell eventually increased their lead to 16-0 before the Cardinals woke and began the season. Mentor started the game with converted WR (Krizancic) at QB, but made a switch after the first Qtr to go with Sophomore (Eiswerth) and he passed for 5-TD's, the last couple to Krizancic at WR as Mentor prevailed 44-30 in a game that had several lead changes. After Mentor was down 16-0, they went on a 23-0 run to take the lead, but McDowell netted things up 23-23 at the half. ... Looks like Mentor has their QB now ... game on next week Iggy!
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I think Mentor is over rated.
I think Mentor is over rated.
I can see where you might think that, I mean they did knock off probably the two best teams in the State last season in St. Ed's and St. Iggy back-to-back before running out of steam in the final 4. I mean, there has to be about a whole 5-6 better teams in the State this year, why would anyone talk about Mentor?
McDowell is a top-20 team in PA, and Mentor spotted them 16 and beat them by two TD's. Bring on Berea!
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I think Mentor is over rated.
I can see where you might think that, I mean they did knock off probably the two best teams in the State last season in St. Ed's and St. Iggy back-to-back before running out of steam in the final 4. I mean, there has to be about a whole 5-6 better teams in the State this year, why would anyone talk about Mentor?
McDowell is a top-20 team in PA, and Mentor spotted them 16 and beat them by two TD's. Bring on Berea!
I can see where you might think that, I mean they did knock off probably the two best teams in the State last season in St. Ed's and St. Iggy back-to-back before running out of steam in the final 4. I mean, there has to be about a whole 5-6 better teams in the State this year, why would anyone talk about Mentor?
McDowell is a top-20 team in PA, and Mentor spotted them 16 and beat them by two TD's. Bring on Berea!
Ha ha. Seriously, they looked really good. I root for all the NE Ohio teams. Unfortunately, my HS team the Valley Forge Patriots sucks I'm sure.
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I think Akron St.V/St.M may be the best team in NEO...if not beyond....regardless of division. 63-0 rout of Garfield....the traditional powerhouse of Akron football (Beanie Wells, Antoine Winfield, Charles Gladman, Dave Brown, many other pro type talent).
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Mentor vs Iggy should determine the #2 ranked team locally.
Mentor has huge momentum going into this game after great performance against McDowell.
St. Ed's has a few easy games the next 2 weeks. Look for St. Edwards to pull away in the standings if the stay undefeated once their schedule toughens up.
After Igggy, Mentors schedule is pretty easy.
Glenville should win out also.
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Massillon pulled out a triple OT victory vs. GlenOak last night (or were they playing a rerun from last week on Foxsports?)
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OK hammertime...what does this list represent:
Kenmore
East Tech
Massillon
Middletown
Stow
Alliance
GlenOak
Glenville
Martins Ferry
Mansfield
Toronto
Crestwood
Hudson
London
Cleveland Hts
Ironton
West Tech
Canton McKinley
Benedictine
Canton Central Catholic
Toledo Scott
Painesville Harvey
Cincinnati Purcell
Warren G. Harding
Columbus East
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^^^
???
Mentor lost, growing pains for a young qb.
glenville sqeaked by solon.
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Mentor sucked last Friday ... haven't seen the offense that off in a very long time. They have a lot of holes to fill. I wouldn't count them among the elite until re-evaluated at the end of the season. Coach Triv will fix all, but will it be to any advantage this season? NOTE: They looked just as bad last season in Week #3 verse Iggy and came back strong for the playoff run. I wouldn't count them out, just not count them in over the next 6+ weeks.
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Colerain has impressed enough to get the #1 state ranking for the AP rankings
St. Edwards has climbed to a #6 national ranking #2 state in AP ranking
St. Iggy looks to have rebounded from there first loss to Brother Rice
Mentor is on cruise control for the remainder of there creampuffs
Glenville needs to stay sharp through the remainder of there creampuffs
Moeller and St. X are gonna be there in the playoffs
Toledo powerhouses seem to have regressed just a little.
There is a considerable drop off from D1 to the rest of the Divisions.(as there should be)
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Colerain has impressed enough to get the #1 state ranking for the AP rankings
St. Edwards has climbed to a #6 national ranking #2 state in AP ranking
St. Iggy looks to have rebounded from there first loss to Brother Rice
Mentor is on cruise control for the remainder of there creampuffs
Glenville needs to stay sharp through the remainder of there creampuffs
Moeller and St. X are gonna be there in the playoffs
Toledo powerhouses seem to have regressed just a little.
There is a considerable drop off from D1 to the rest of the Divisions.(as there should be)
Colerain has impressed enough to get the #1 state ranking for the AP rankings
St. Edwards has climbed to a #6 national ranking #2 state in AP ranking
St. Iggy looks to have rebounded from there first loss to Brother Rice
Mentor is on cruise control for the remainder of there creampuffs
Glenville needs to stay sharp through the remainder of there creampuffs
Moeller and St. X are gonna be there in the playoffs
Toledo powerhouses seem to have regressed just a little.
There is a considerable drop off from D1 to the rest of the Divisions.(as there should be)
See my other thread. I am not sure if Eds/Iggy/Mentor/Glenville/Moeller/X/Colerain etc. all play in the same division now, they have divided it up so much.
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DIVISION I
1, Cincinnati Colerain (6) 3-0 203
2, Lakewood St. Edward (11) 3-0 199
3, Cincinnati Moeller (7) 3-0 196
4, Canton Mckinley 3-0 109
5, Austintown-Fitch (1) 3-0 101
6, Cleveland St. Ignatius 2-1 91
7, Hudson 3-0 89
8, Hilliard Davidson 3-0 81
9, Cincinnati Elder 3-0 75
10, Centerville 3-0 74
Others receiving 12 or more points: 11, Cincinnati St. Xavier (1) 73. 12, Pickerington North 50. 13, Mentor 43. 14, Marysville (1) 23. 15, Cincinnati Sycamore 14. 16, Elyria 13. 16, Stow-Munroe Falls 13.
DIVISION II
1, Massillon Washington (12) 3-0 207
2, New Albany (4) 3-0 155
3, Cincinnati Winton Woods (2) 3-0 144
4, Willoughby South (1) 3-0 118
5, Zanesville (2) 3-0 106
6, Avon (1) 3-0 95
7, Cincinnati La Salle (1) 3-0 94
8, Cleveland Glenville 2-1 86
9, North Olmsted (2) 3-0 79
10, Loveland (1) 3-0 73
Others receiving 12 or more points: 11, Mansfield 42. 12, Akron Ellet (1) 41. 13, Lewis Center Olentangy 40. 14, Macedonia Nordonia 37. 15, Lyndhurst Brush 22. 16, Medina Highland 21. 17, Cincinnati Withrow 19. 18, Bedford 17. 19, Madison 15. 20, Columbus Northland 13. 21, Garfield Heights 12.
DIVISION III
1, Akron St. Vincent-St. Mary (11) 3-0 224
2, Toledo Central Catholic (11) 3-0 221 3, Dover 3-0 92
4, Day. Thurgood Marshall 3-0 87
5, Aurora (1) 3-0 85
6, Athens (2) 3-0 80
7, Poland Seminary 3-0 78
(tie) Clyde 3-0 78
9, Hubbard (1) 3-0 73
10, New Philadelphia 3-0 67
Others receiving 12 or more points: 11, Chillicothe (1) 58. 12, Trotwood-Madison 55. 13, Mount Orab Western Brown 43. 14, Millersburg West Holmes 42. 15, Sandusky Perkins 41. 16, Springfield Shawnee (1) 29. 17, Canton South 25. 18, Norwalk 24. 19, Columbus Marion-Franklin 18. 20, Celina 12.
DIVISION IV
1, Clarksville Clinton-Massie (12) 3-0 154
2, Kenton (5) 3-0 140
3, Bryan (1) 3-0 118
4, Steubenville (1) 3-0 117
5, Middletown Bishop Fenwick 3-0 76
6, Bloom-Carroll (1) 3-0 74
7, Genoa Area (1) 3-0 69
8, Caledonia River Valley (2) 3-0 63
9, Washington C.H. Miami Trace 3-0 61
10, Fairview Park 3-0 49
Others receiving 12 or more points: 11, Youngstown Cardinal Mooney (1) 48. 12, Chagrin Falls (2) 46. 13, Zanesville Maysville 45. 14, Wauseon 38. 15, Germantown Valley View 36. 16, Galion 35. 17, Upper Sandusky 33. 18, Kettering Archbishop Alter 30. 19, Pepper Pike Orange 28. 19, Struthers (1) 28. 21, New Concord John Glenn 26. 22, Perry 24. 23, Gnadenhutten Indian Valley 21. 24, Eaton 16. 24, Chardon Notre Dame-Cathedral Latin 16. 26, North Bend Taylor 13. 26, Columbus Bishop Watterson 13.
DIVISION V
1, Dayton Chaminade-Julienne (9) 3-0 169
2, Wheelersburg (2) 3-0 108
3, Coldwater (1) 2-1 104
4, St. Clairsville (1) 3-0 101
5, Columbiana Crestview (3) 3-0 99
6, Martins Ferry (2) 3-0 88
7, Findlay Liberty-Benton (1) 3-0 74
8, Cincinnati Hills Christian Academy (1) 3-0 71
9, Youngstown Ursuline (2) 2-1 69
10, Orrville (1) 3-0 68
Others receiving 12 or more points: 11, Hamilton Badin 65. 12, Akron Manchester (2) 62. 13, Columbus Bishop Hartley 57. 14, Baltimore Liberty Union 54. 15, Navarre Fairless 41. 16, Columbia Station Columbia 39. 17, Liberty Center (1) 33. 17, Creston Norwayne 33. 19, Richwood North Union (1) 27. 20, Loudonville 25. 21, Ottawa-Glandorf 22. 22, Cincinnati Madeira 15.
DIVISION VI
1, Kirtland (13) 3-0 194
2, Mogadore (5) 3-0 153
3, Columbus Bishop Ready (4) 3-0 150
4, Haviland Wayne Trace (1) 3-0 119
5, Cincinnati Summit Country Day (2) 3-0 87
6, North Robinson Colonel Crawford (1) 3-0 69
7, Lewisburg Tri-County North 3-0 57
(tie) Lima Central Catholic 2-1 57
9, Ada 3-0 56
10, Cleveland Villa Angela-St. Joseph 3-0 52
Others receiving 12 or more points: 11, Newark Catholic 50. 12, Brookfield 38. 12, Canfield S. Range (1) 38. 14, McDonald 33. 14, Lucasville Valley 33. 16, Casstown Miami East 29. 16, Centerburg 29. 18, Cincinnati Country Day 28. 19, Delphos Jefferson 26. 20, Hamler Patrick Henry 25. 21, West Liberty-Salem 23. 22, Oak Hill 22. 23, Beverly Fort Frye 18. 24, Defiance Ayersville 17. 24, Louisville St. Thomas Aquinas 17. 26, Cleveland Cuyahoga Heights 16. 27, Defiance Tinora 13.
DIVISION VII
1, Maria Stein Marion Local (20) 3-0 242
2, Berlin Center Western Reserve (1) 3-0 144
3, Shadyside 3-0 126
4, North Lewisburg Triad (1) 3-0 113
5, Leipsic 3-0 104
6, Glouster Trimble (1) 3-0 83
7, Steubenville Catholic Central 3-0 78
8, Wellsville (1) 3-0 76
9, Arlington 3-0 67 (
tie), Covington 3-0 67
Others receiving 12 or more points: 11, Plymouth 40. 12, Ft. Loramie 38. 13, Bainbridge Paint Valley (1) 34. 14, Mineral Ridge 32. 15, Delphos St. John's 25. 16, Norwalk St. Paul (1) 22. 17, Danville 15. 17, Manchester 15.
Copyright The Associated Press
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