Skip to content

2013 Highschool Football Season !

Ohio High School Football Forum
64 6 7.3k
  • It looks like St. Edwards, Colerain or Moeller are the favorites to win the Div. I state title.

    Mentor is unable to make up the loss of Trubisky. St. Iggy has lost too much talent due to injury to be a serious contender.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #36

    @hammertime said:

    It looks like St. Edwards, Colerain or Moeller are the favorites to win the Div. I state title.

    Mentor is unable to make up the loss of Trubisky. St. Iggy has lost too much talent due to injury to be a serious contender.

    It would be nice if a Canton McKinley or Austintown Fitch could break the parochial hegemony.

    And gee, the way this silly system is set up now, perhaps both Canton McKinley and Massillon could end up being state champs.

  • @hammertime said:

    It looks like St. Edwards, Colerain or Moeller are the favorites to win the Div. I state title.

    Mentor is unable to make up the loss of Trubisky. St. Iggy has lost too much talent due to injury to be a serious contender.

    It would be nice if a Canton McKinley or Austintown Fitch could break the parochial hegemony.

    And gee, the way this silly system is set up now, perhaps both Canton McKinley and Massillon could end up being state champs.

    hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
    #37

    @the-gipper said:

    It would be nice if a Canton McKinley or Austintown Fitch could break the parochial hegemony.

    And gee, the way this silly system is set up now, perhaps both Canton McKinley and Massillon could end up being state champs.

    it's not gonna happen anytime soon.

    they both need to toughen up there schedules.

    I know iggy and ed's are hurting for games, they used to play each other in the past it would be good competition for all.

  • @the-gipper said:

    It would be nice if a Canton McKinley or Austintown Fitch could break the parochial hegemony.

    And gee, the way this silly system is set up now, perhaps both Canton McKinley and Massillon could end up being state champs.

    it's not gonna happen anytime soon.

    they both need to toughen up there schedules.

    I know iggy and ed's are hurting for games, they used to play each other in the past it would be good competition for all.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #38

    @hammertime said:

    it's not gonna happen anytime soon.

    they both need to toughen up there schedules.

    I know iggy and ed's are hurting for games, they used to play each other in the past it would be good competition for all.

    You mean St. Ed's and St. Ignatius don't play each other in the regular season? That is absurd if true. And what it means is that their athletic director's are cowards for not playing that game.

    And the Canton McKinley's and Autintown's schedules are fine. They just can't compete with the recruiting efforts of the parochial schools.

    Canton McK is limited to getting players from Canton. Austintown is limited to Austintown....where Iggy can go to like North Olmstead and get a guy like Brian Hoyer to play there.

  • hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
    #39

    gip your act is getting old....

    I was inferring that fitch and McKinley schedule eds or iggy. iggy and eds do play each other. they call it the 'holy war'.

  • gip your act is getting old....

    I was inferring that fitch and McKinley schedule eds or iggy. iggy and eds do play each other. they call it the 'holy war'.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #40

    @hammertime said:

    gip your act is getting old....

    I was inferring that fitch and McKinley schedule eds or iggy. iggy and eds do play each other. they call it the 'holy war'.

    Well, you weren't clear. Your statement seemed to imply that it was Ed's and Iggy that didn't play.

    And for all we know, it may be that it is St. Ed's and Ignatius that don't want to schedule McKinley etc.

    Besides, it appears that Iggy does play McKinley...but just in a scrimmage. Most of their schedule is now made up of other out of state parochial schools.:

    http://www.ignatius.edu/page.aspx?pid=698

    And sorry if the truth is old to you, but the truth may get old, but it never dies.

  • hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
    #41

    I'm not sure why I even respond to this nonsense.

    You think the private schools need to recruit in order to win.(you offer zero proof and would be surprised to know that public schools are guilty of more recruiting violations than privates)

    You have a poor understanding of how private schools keep their doors open.(you think superior athletes are given financial aid based on athletics yet you offer zero proof again.)

    The sissification of America is what you propose, you think separating public from private is going to create a level playing field, instead it creates a watered down juice box league that teaches youth that if you can't compete then complain.

    As for a possible solution, the numbers of boys at a school now determine what division you compete in. At a private school if you don't carry your weight and show up for class they get rid of you, usually not an issue since the parents are paying for the student and ensures that their child is there learning.

    At a public school there is always gonna be the dead beat students who don't contribute or even show up for class yet there still considered in the 'count' used for determining your division.

    Odds are quite a few teams could go to a 'fairer' division where they could compete at. by eleiminating the dead weight in the count.(not very realistic I know)

    Ohio HS football is top five in the nation and separating public from from private isn't going to improve that number for sure,

  • Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
    #42

    Now who's number 1 in D-1? Ed's lost last night to Iggy's

  • hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
    #43

    PLAYOFFS

    D1 has the familiar faces.

    St. Eds(#1 in the state ) Mentor Iggy these are the top tier teams in region 1 all are capable of winning

    Moeller Colerain these are the top teams in region 2 Moeller is very good Colerain has good athletes but is not tested.

    (Wadsworth should look forward to getting spanked by Ed's though if they can win their first playoff game)

    Div2 -should be Glenvilles year to win a state title now that they are out of Div 1

    Div3 SVSM- they have found a nice hiding spot in D3 and will prevail(they prefer not to be challenged)

    Div4 -some say Mooney but Kenton disagrees

    Div5-7 ??????

  • PLAYOFFS

    D1 has the familiar faces.

    St. Eds(#1 in the state ) Mentor Iggy these are the top tier teams in region 1 all are capable of winning

    Moeller Colerain these are the top teams in region 2 Moeller is very good Colerain has good athletes but is not tested.

    (Wadsworth should look forward to getting spanked by Ed's though if they can win their first playoff game)

    Div2 -should be Glenvilles year to win a state title now that they are out of Div 1

    Div3 SVSM- they have found a nice hiding spot in D3 and will prevail(they prefer not to be challenged)

    Div4 -some say Mooney but Kenton disagrees

    Div5-7 ??????

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #44

    @hammertime said:

    PLAYOFFS

    D1 has the familiar faces.

    St. Eds(#1 in the state ) Mentor Iggy these are the top tier teams in region 1 all are capable of winning

    Moeller Colerain these are the top teams in region 2 Moeller is very good Colerain has good athletes but is not tested.

    (Wadsworth should look forward to getting spanked by Ed's though if they can win their first playoff game)

    Div2 -should be Glenvilles year to win a state title now that they are out of Div 1

    Div3 SVSM- they have found a nice hiding spot in D3 and will prevail(they prefer not to be challenged)

    I thought which division a school is in was a function of the number of male students at that school. The school itself does not pick and choose which division it is in....so I don't see why you can say that SVSM is "hiding"? The OHSAA makes these rules, not the schools. The OHSAA assigns a school to a division.

    If you want SVSM to compete at the higher divisions, donate a million dollars to the school so they can build new wings and recruit more athletes to play there.

    Div4 -some say Mooney but Kenton disagrees

    Div5-7 ??????

    That said, I agree....Four divisions really should be enough. Seven is absurd.

  • hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
    #45

    ^^^

    tonge in cheek on the SVSM comment, but normally a quality team with highly touted athletes will step out of there comfort zone and face a few D1 or D2 programs.

    Mooney does year in and year out. Even a school like Buchtel will challenge themselves with almost certain losses trying to increase the level of play at there program.

  • ^^^

    tonge in cheek on the SVSM comment, but normally a quality team with highly touted athletes will step out of there comfort zone and face a few D1 or D2 programs.

    Mooney does year in and year out. Even a school like Buchtel will challenge themselves with almost certain losses trying to increase the level of play at there program.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #46

    @hammertime said:

    ^^^

    tonge in cheek on the SVSM comment, but normally a quality team with highly touted athletes will step out of there comfort zone and face a few D1 or D2 programs.

    Mooney does year in and year out. Even a school like Buchtel will challenge themselves with almost certain losses trying to increase the level of play at there program.

    St. V beat Massillon this year, didn't they?. Isn't that "stepping out of their comfort zone?

  • @hammertime said:

    ^^^

    tonge in cheek on the SVSM comment, but normally a quality team with highly touted athletes will step out of there comfort zone and face a few D1 or D2 programs.

    Mooney does year in and year out. Even a school like Buchtel will challenge themselves with almost certain losses trying to increase the level of play at there program.

    St. V beat Massillon this year, didn't they?. Isn't that "stepping out of their comfort zone?

    hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
    #47

    @the-gipper said:

    St. V beat Massillon this year, didn't they?. Isn't that "stepping out of their comfort zone?

    not really. its been awhile since massilion has done much....

  • @the-gipper said:

    St. V beat Massillon this year, didn't they?. Isn't that "stepping out of their comfort zone?

    not really. its been awhile since massilion has done much....

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #48

    @hammertime said:

    not really. its been awhile since massilion has done much....

    Yea, sure....because they are a public HS, and can't compete with the talent that is recruited by the big parochial schools.

    Idjit.

  • @hammertime said:

    not really. its been awhile since massilion has done much....

    Yea, sure....because they are a public HS, and can't compete with the talent that is recruited by the big parochial schools.

    Idjit.

    hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
    #49

    @the-gipper said:

    Yea, sure....because they are a public HS, and can't compete with the talent that is recruited by the big parochial schools.

    Idjit.

    that's some funny shit gip....

    Massilion has more recruiting violations than anyone in R1Div1

    keep whining though, your juice box league is just around the corner.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Yea, sure....because they are a public HS, and can't compete with the talent that is recruited by the big parochial schools.

    Idjit.

    that's some funny shit gip....

    Massilion has more recruiting violations than anyone in R1Div1

    keep whining though, your juice box league is just around the corner.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #50

    @hammertime said:

    that's some funny shit gip....

    Massilion has more recruiting violations than anyone in R1Div1

    keep whining though, your juice box league is just around the corner.

    Clearly Massillon hasn't been able to keep up when ponying up the cash. It is a depressed town.

  • hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
    #51

    I agree about it being a depressed town. They still take there football serious though. They have a very storied program as does McKinley and other depressed areas like Steubenville.

    It could very well end up with Massilion vs. Glenville for the right to play for the D2 title..

  • hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
    #52

    hey gipp

    is wadsworth a depressed town??

    how did the recession hit you guys? tough loss against Clev. Hts.

  • hey gipp

    is wadsworth a depressed town??

    how did the recession hit you guys? tough loss against Clev. Hts.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #53

    @hammertime said:

    hey gipp

    is wadsworth a depressed town??

    how did the recession hit you guys? tough loss against Clev. Hts.

    Wadsworth is not. It is somewhat of a bedroom community. But I work in Barberton...which is. As for the Wadsworth game, since my kids are no longer in school, it is not as big a deal. Though I wonder about the seeding. That was a home game for Wadsworth, yet clearly Cleveland Hts was the better team.

    Could Cleveland Hts. be a force against the big private schools?

  • @hammertime said:

    hey gipp

    is wadsworth a depressed town??

    how did the recession hit you guys? tough loss against Clev. Hts.

    Wadsworth is not. It is somewhat of a bedroom community. But I work in Barberton...which is. As for the Wadsworth game, since my kids are no longer in school, it is not as big a deal. Though I wonder about the seeding. That was a home game for Wadsworth, yet clearly Cleveland Hts was the better team.

    Could Cleveland Hts. be a force against the big private schools?

    hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
    #54

    @the-gipper said:

    Wadsworth is not. It is somewhat of a bedroom community. But I work in Barberton...which is. As for the Wadsworth game, since my kids are no longer in school, it is not as big a deal. Though I wonder about the seeding. That was a home game for Wadsworth, yet clearly Cleveland Hts was the better team.

    Could Cleveland Hts. be a force against the big private schools?

    If they are still around in the 3rd quarter it could become interesting. Ed's has come out flat numerous times for the 2nd half.

    Cleve hts has speed and the coaching is good.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Wadsworth is not. It is somewhat of a bedroom community. But I work in Barberton...which is. As for the Wadsworth game, since my kids are no longer in school, it is not as big a deal. Though I wonder about the seeding. That was a home game for Wadsworth, yet clearly Cleveland Hts was the better team.

    Could Cleveland Hts. be a force against the big private schools?

    If they are still around in the 3rd quarter it could become interesting. Ed's has come out flat numerous times for the 2nd half.

    Cleve hts has speed and the coaching is good.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #55

    @hammertime said:

    If they are still around in the 3rd quarter it could become interesting. Ed's has come out flat numerous times for the 2nd half.

    Cleve hts has speed and the coaching is good.

    Is that the matchup this week? Hts. vs. Ed's? I think it would be nice to see Hts. win.