Maualuga vs. Curry: Two excellent prospects
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@shepwrite said:
Rey was the first guy (knockout artist)... and in this report, frankly sounds a little better.They're both great prospects. I think it comes down to what Mangini wants for his defense. Curry does everything well, he's a great athlete, and is technically sound... Rey is bigger, also a great athlete, and more of a slobberknocker than Curry.
Interesting to today's conversation that they also see Rey as the better cover guy, on ILB terms.
Just a hypothetical to throw out there............
Browns trade their 1st round pick to somebody who really loves somebody. Doesn't have to be dramatic but enough to get a later 1st rounder and an extra 2nd rounder or two.
Take one of the other 2 USC LBs late in Round 1, take a RB in Round 2 (Brown from UCONN or the kid from Liberty) and use the other second round pick to take the BPA at that time. Every team can use a little more depth.
Just a question: is there THAT much difference between USC #1 LB and USC #2 and #3 LBS?
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Thanks for sharing that....and I have always though of Curry as a OLB.....and I see that as the bigger need of the 2 backer spots.
Who are we planning on playing outside next year??
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@shepwrite said:
Rey was the first guy (knockout artist)... and in this report, frankly sounds a little better.They're both great prospects. I think it comes down to what Mangini wants for his defense. Curry does everything well, he's a great athlete, and is technically sound... Rey is bigger, also a great athlete, and more of a slobberknocker than Curry.
Interesting to today's conversation that they also see Rey as the better cover guy, on ILB terms.
Just a hypothetical to throw out there............
Browns trade their 1st round pick to somebody who really loves somebody. Doesn't have to be dramatic but enough to get a later 1st rounder and an extra 2nd rounder or two.
Take one of the other 2 USC LBs late in Round 1, take a RB in Round 2 (Brown from UCONN or the kid from Liberty) and use the other second round pick to take the BPA at that time. Every team can use a little more depth.
Just a question: is there THAT much difference between USC #1 LB and USC #2 and #3 LBS?
Just a hypothetical to throw out there............
Browns trade their 1st round pick to somebody who really loves somebody. Doesn't have to be dramatic but enough to get a later 1st rounder and an extra 2nd rounder or two.
Take one of the other 2 USC LBs late in Round 1, take a RB in Round 2 (Brown from UCONN or the kid from Liberty) and use the other second round pick to take the BPA at that time. Every team can use a little more depth.
Just a question: is there THAT much difference between USC #1 LB and USC #2 and #3 LBS?
I'd take the other 2 USC LBs. I personally think Cushing is a better all around LB than Rey.
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@shepwrite said:
SHEP: He's also consistently ranked as the top ILB in the draft while Curry is consistently ranked as an OLB. -
Curry's ranked at OLB because 2/3 of NFL teams play in a 4-3 and he's a prototypical SAM backer (can both cover TE's and stuff the run).
For the same reason, Richard Seymour was ranked at DT when he was a draft prospect, even though he became an elite 3-4 DE.
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Displays an outstanding combination of speed and size
Durability - 1 - Durability is not a substantial concern at this point though sustained a hip pointer that led to him seeing limited time against Notre Dame in 2007.
Character - 0 - N/A
Inside Linebacker specific Traits
Instincts/Recognition - 1 - Shows natural instincts. Reads keys extremely well and finds the football quickly. Recognizes play action and reacts well.
Pursuit/Point of Attack - 1 - Down-hill aggressive thumper. Does a nice job of controlling and shedding blockers. Opens hips extremely well and changes directions instantly. Shows excellent overall range. At times, gets caught out of position due to aggressive approach
Tackling - 2 - A knock-out artist. Will violently explode through ball carriers when given the opportunity. Has a tendency to miss some easy tackles due to leaving feet in an effort to deliver the big hit
Pass Coverage - 2 - Does a good job of looking up shallow crossers and disrupting their routes. Is able to sniff out and react to screens extremely well.
Pass Rusher - 2 - Relentless and times stunts well. Displays adequate lower body strength and flashes the ability to collapse the pocket. Shows good closing speed.
I got no problem with this at all....because Curry will be gone! if he isn't great but I think he's gone.
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Aloy....haven't seen this guy play but once....TCU had an exceptional D so I think he might be a good candidate.....thoughts? a little lite but he'll fill out
Jason Phillips, TCU
Height: 6-1. Weight: 234.
Projected 40 Time: 4.55.
Projected Round (2009): 4.
1/10/09: Finished with a whopping 13 TFL, as well as 84 tackles and 3.5 sacks.
12/7/08: Selected to the All-Mountain West First Team once again, Jason Phillips tallied 79 tackles, 12 TFL and 3.5 sacks this year.
2007: Jason Phillips led the Horned Frogs with 73 tackles, earning himself a spot on the All-Mountain West First Team.
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@shepwrite said:
so my gut says we'll get a starting linebacker in free agency and then draft the other position.No doubt that is the plan...lets hope we can get one....actually, the FA pick-up is probably more important than drafting one because then we don't have to reach heading in to the draft.
Drafting 2 backers back to back isn't a good idea IMO....you can end up with two future starters at the same position(backer) more or less in the same contract cycle which can muck up the process of signing them again if both are good players.
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@shepwrite said:
so my gut says we'll get a starting linebacker in free agency and then draft the other position.No doubt that is the plan...lets hope we can get one....actually, the FA pick-up is probably more important than drafting one because then we don't have to reach heading in to the draft.
Drafting 2 backers back to back isn't a good idea IMO....you can end up with two future starters at the same position(backer) more or less in the same contract cycle which can muck up the process of signing them again if both are good players.
No doubt that is the plan...lets hope we can get one....actually, the FA pick-up is probably more important than drafting one because then we don't have to reach heading in to the draft.
Drafting 2 backers back to back isn't a good idea IMO....you can end up with two future starters at the same position(backer) more or less in the same contract cycle which can muck up the process of signing them again if both are good players.
well Peen normally I'd agree but at this point we'd be better off drafting all LB's....maybe we'll finally hit on one....sarcasm!
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I believe Curry is the #1 LB in the draft but Rey isn't #2 for 3-4 teams. Everette Brown will be a 3-4 OLB and I think after the combine and pro day he will be right there with Curry on the Browns list.
So it will be do you want a ILB - Curry or a pass rusher - Brown.
Might just be which one we can get in FA and go after the other in the draft.
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