Freeman just got cut
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1st Post! I think Freeman would be a big disservice to the Browns. He's demanding a lot of money & has had a lot of disciplinary problems. If things go downhill during the season, which is quite possible, he might create another media circus. The best thing for the Browns to do is draft the best QB available in the 1st round of next year's draft. The rookie will be able to matriculate well under the tutelage of Hoyer. Weeden's short-term success will determine CLE's long-term prospects. If he just squeaks by a couple teams (PIT, JAC), CLE will have a good draft position. If Weeden goes on a run & leads the team to 7-9 wins, this will hurt the team in the long term. One must keep in mind the needs of the teams likely to end ahead of CLE in the draft: JAC desperately needs a QB, OAK will probably press Restart with the chaos that Pryor & Flynn have created, PHI can't bank their future on Foles & Barkley, TB will likely end up having to replace Glennon, STL might run out of patience with Bradford by the end of a disappointing season, MIN might not be willing to build a franchise based on Cassel & AZ needs to look past Palmer. From a Machiavellian perspective, the organization must hope to end up with the #3-#7 draft pick, as a playoff run with Weeden is highly unlikely.
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1st Post! I think Freeman would be a big disservice to the Browns. He's demanding a lot of money & has had a lot of disciplinary problems. If things go downhill during the season, which is quite possible, he might create another media circus. The best thing for the Browns to do is draft the best QB available in the 1st round of next year's draft. The rookie will be able to matriculate well under the tutelage of Hoyer. Weeden's short-term success will determine CLE's long-term prospects. If he just squeaks by a couple teams (PIT, JAC), CLE will have a good draft position. If Weeden goes on a run & leads the team to 7-9 wins, this will hurt the team in the long term. One must keep in mind the needs of the teams likely to end ahead of CLE in the draft: JAC desperately needs a QB, OAK will probably press Restart with the chaos that Pryor & Flynn have created, PHI can't bank their future on Foles & Barkley, TB will likely end up having to replace Glennon, STL might run out of patience with Bradford by the end of a disappointing season, MIN might not be willing to build a franchise based on Cassel & AZ needs to look past Palmer. From a Machiavellian perspective, the organization must hope to end up with the #3-#7 draft pick, as a playoff run with Weeden is highly unlikely.
1st Post! I think Freeman would be a big disservice to the Browns. He's demanding a lot of money & has had a lot of disciplinary problems. If things go downhill during the season, which is quite possible, he might create another media circus. The best thing for the Browns to do is draft the best QB available in the 1st round of next year's draft. The rookie will be able to matriculate well under the tutelage of Hoyer. Weeden's short-term success will determine CLE's long-term prospects. If he just squeaks by a couple teams (PIT, JAC), CLE will have a good draft position. If Weeden goes on a run & leads the team to 7-9 wins, this will hurt the team in the long term. One must keep in mind the needs of the teams likely to end ahead of CLE in the draft: JAC desperately needs a QB, OAK will probably press Restart with the chaos that Pryor & Flynn have created, PHI can't bank their future on Foles & Barkley, TB will likely end up having to replace Glennon, STL might run out of patience with Bradford by the end of a disappointing season, MIN might not be willing to build a franchise based on Cassel & AZ needs to look past Palmer. From a Machiavellian perspective, the organization must hope to end up with the #3-#7 draft pick, as a playoff run with Weeden is highly unlikely.
Tank job huh? This team is too good RIGHT NOW to even consider that. If we spot a QB in the early part of the 1st, we have plenty of picks to move up and take them no matter where we are. Also, there may be enough good QBs coming out this year to just wait until the end of the 1st to get a good one. There is no way 7 to 9 wins can hurt this team. We are young enough that we need the guys who are on the roster now to continue to build confidence and get better. With all the youth and excitement around this team now, we don't need to slip back into a culture of losing, no matter how it affects our next draft. We are on the upswing, not re-building anymore...
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1st Post! I think Freeman would be a big disservice to the Browns. He's demanding a lot of money & has had a lot of disciplinary problems. If things go downhill during the season, which is quite possible, he might create another media circus. The best thing for the Browns to do is draft the best QB available in the 1st round of next year's draft. The rookie will be able to matriculate well under the tutelage of Hoyer. Weeden's short-term success will determine CLE's long-term prospects. If he just squeaks by a couple teams (PIT, JAC), CLE will have a good draft position. If Weeden goes on a run & leads the team to 7-9 wins, this will hurt the team in the long term. One must keep in mind the needs of the teams likely to end ahead of CLE in the draft: JAC desperately needs a QB, OAK will probably press Restart with the chaos that Pryor & Flynn have created, PHI can't bank their future on Foles & Barkley, TB will likely end up having to replace Glennon, STL might run out of patience with Bradford by the end of a disappointing season, MIN might not be willing to build a franchise based on Cassel & AZ needs to look past Palmer. From a Machiavellian perspective, the organization must hope to end up with the #3-#7 draft pick, as a playoff run with Weeden is highly unlikely.
Tank job huh? This team is too good RIGHT NOW to even consider that. If we spot a QB in the early part of the 1st, we have plenty of picks to move up and take them no matter where we are. Also, there may be enough good QBs coming out this year to just wait until the end of the 1st to get a good one. There is no way 7 to 9 wins can hurt this team. We are young enough that we need the guys who are on the roster now to continue to build confidence and get better. With all the youth and excitement around this team now, we don't need to slip back into a culture of losing, no matter how it affects our next draft. We are on the upswing, not re-building anymore...
Tank job huh? This team is too good RIGHT NOW to even consider that. If we spot a QB in the early part of the 1st, we have plenty of picks to move up and take them no matter where we are. Also, there may be enough good QBs coming out this year to just wait until the end of the 1st to get a good one. There is no way 7 to 9 wins can hurt this team. We are young enough that we need the guys who are on the roster now to continue to build confidence and get better. With all the youth and excitement around this team now, we don't need to slip back into a culture of losing, no matter how it affects our next draft. We are on the upswing, not re-building anymore...
I don't think CLE should throw games, but if Weeden brings the team crashing down to Earth again, there would be a nice silver lining to it. The ironic part of next year's QB-rich draft is that there are a lot of teams that will be drafting QBs early on.
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You can't tank in football. Too many players would get hurt.
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its been confirmed that "browns have eliminated former Tampa Bay QB Josh Freeman as an option"
its been confirmed that "browns have eliminated former Tampa Bay QB Josh Freeman as an option"
??? Yeah I heard on KNR they're thinking of TYLER THIGPEN??? Good point by the talking heads though- they better sign someone pronto. Weeden's lack of pocket awareness says it's odds on he's gonna take a kill shot and wind up on IR himself.
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I'm not proposing we do this, but what would the price of Ryan Foles or Kirk Cousins be?
I really don't want to give up any picks, but I feel we have a real shot at making noise with how shaky our division is this year.
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its been confirmed that "browns have eliminated former Tampa Bay QB Josh Freeman as an option"
??? Yeah I heard on KNR they're thinking of TYLER THIGPEN??? Good point by the talking heads though- they better sign someone pronto. Weeden's lack of pocket awareness says it's odds on he's gonna take a kill shot and wind up on IR himself.
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Who are you talking about?
I am talking about the Bucs wanting to trade Freeman but coming up with no takers. The Bucs dropped him from the roster rather than keep him around. They essentially are paying him to go away. I agree, his contract may be partially the reason he has not been picked up. But, it seems to me that if an employer pays an employee a substantial salary to stay away there are some significant issues that could not be surmounted.......and reading between the lines, I think Frees issues are attitude related. One possible scenario is a team picking up Frees under the condition that the Bucs pay half his salary.
As well, the Browns FO seems to have an aversion to head cases which was partially the reason they sent Trich packing. I can't see them extending an offer to a player with potentially the same reluctance to buy into a teams philosophy and a player who puts himself before the team. I would be very surprised to see Frees in a Browns uni.
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I played college ball with him. He's a dick.
What's the deal with S Carolina college football teams attraction to Cocks?
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I played college ball with him. He's a dick.
What's the deal with S Carolina college football teams attraction to Cocks?
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last time i saw campbell he was in street clothes.
cut him asap and sign freeman.
smart, quick and easy.
tyler fucking thigpen? GTFO!
freeman was a first rounder correct? the guy is huge. let him come to the shores of lake erie and play for us. his nose will be running so much because of the cold that he couldn't sniff a line if he wanted to.
besides the quality of coke in cleveland compared to that in florida must be worlds apart.
right zombo?
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last time i saw campbell he was in street clothes.
cut him asap and sign freeman.
smart, quick and easy.
tyler fucking thigpen? GTFO!
freeman was a first rounder correct? the guy is huge. let him come to the shores of lake erie and play for us. his nose will be running so much because of the cold that he couldn't sniff a line if he wanted to.
besides the quality of coke in cleveland compared to that in florida must be worlds apart.
right zombo?
last time i saw campbell he was in street clothes.
cut him asap and sign freeman.
smart, quick and easy.
tyler fucking thigpen? GTFO!
freeman was a first rounder correct? the guy is huge. let him come to the shores of lake erie and play for us. his nose will be running so much because of the cold that he couldn't sniff a line if he wanted to.
besides the quality of coke in cleveland compared to that in florida must be worlds apart.
right zombo?
crack in ohio, any kind of drug/substance in ohio is probably better than in florida. actually ashtubula is the meth capital of the world.. ohio is pretty big on this stuff, even a rich person drug like crack
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I'm not proposing we do this, but what would the price of Ryan Foles or Kirk Cousins be?
I really don't want to give up any picks, but I feel we have a real shot at making noise with how shaky our division is this year.
I'm not proposing we do this, but what would the price of Ryan Foles or Kirk Cousins be?
I really don't want to give up any picks, but I feel we have a real shot at making noise with how shaky our division is this year.
WAS is going to hold onto Cousins. RG3's so unpredictable that they need a quality back-up. Foles is atrocious. PHI would rather start a battered Vick than him.
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last time i saw campbell he was in street clothes.
cut him asap and sign freeman.
smart, quick and easy.
tyler fucking thigpen? GTFO!
freeman was a first rounder correct? the guy is huge. let him come to the shores of lake erie and play for us. his nose will be running so much because of the cold that he couldn't sniff a line if he wanted to.
besides the quality of coke in cleveland compared to that in florida must be worlds apart.
right zombo?
crack in ohio, any kind of drug/substance in ohio is probably better than in florida. actually ashtubula is the meth capital of the world.. ohio is pretty big on this stuff, even a rich person drug like crack
crack in ohio, any kind of drug/substance in ohio is probably better than in florida. actually ashtubula is the meth capital of the world.. ohio is pretty big on this stuff, even a rich person drug like crack
who said anything about crack? and when did crack become a 'rich person' drug? you mean rich compared to huffing gasoline? let's see......florida on the ocean (remember miami vice?) or ohio. drug smuggling? much easier into florida.
and you are wrong about ohio being the meth capital of the world. i think it's missouri.
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crack in ohio, any kind of drug/substance in ohio is probably better than in florida. actually ashtubula is the meth capital of the world.. ohio is pretty big on this stuff, even a rich person drug like crack
who said anything about crack? and when did crack become a 'rich person' drug? you mean rich compared to huffing gasoline? let's see......florida on the ocean (remember miami vice?) or ohio. drug smuggling? much easier into florida.
and you are wrong about ohio being the meth capital of the world. i think it's missouri.
who said anything about crack? and when did crack become a 'rich person' drug? you mean rich compared to huffing gasoline? let's see......florida on the ocean (remember miami vice?) or ohio. drug smuggling? much easier into florida.
and you are wrong about ohio being the meth capital of the world. i think it's missouri.
ashtabula is the meth capital of the world.. and crack cocaine is known as a rich person drug, get out from under your rock. and we're talking about quality of the stuff here
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i wouldn't know.
you must smoke a lot of the shit considering that avatar, and the video you posted about it.
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Actually Crack is the poor mans cocaine. Booty loaf been hitting the meth too much.
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Actually Crack is the poor mans cocaine. Booty loaf been hitting the meth too much.
Actually Crack is the poor mans cocaine. Booty loaf been hitting the meth too much.
That's why crack became so endemic in cities like Cleveland. It's dirt cheap compared to cocaine.
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