Browns fans...

[The Cysko Kid]

I hear Manuel may be out 8 weeks.

[koalabazooka]

If Manuel had been available on that last drive, I think he would've led a comeback win, like he did in Week 2. Tuel was absolutely horrendous. With even a mediocre QB, they could've used a CJ/FJ and passing tandem to drive down the field. That being said, if Hoyer hadn't torn his ACL, I don't think the game would've been close!

[The Cysko Kid]

Well he wasn't available.

[bizell]

doesn't matter if you were impressed with him or not, but with manuel in there @ qb the bills scored 24 points through 3 quarters

[The Cysko Kid]

They were given 14

[The Cysko Kid]

And they lost

[koalabazooka]

@the-cysko-kid said:

They were given 14

What do you mean?

[letsgojackets]

Yeah I love the 2 PI calls when BOTH players are mugging each other.

[The Cysko Kid]

And i generally like the bills but I personally think Alonso cheapshotted Hoyer and probably hurt our chances really badly this season so I can't like the bills right now.

[bizell]

how'd he cheapshot hoyer? that was a perfectly legitimate hit. hoyer started trying to slide way too late, just like the hit on ej manuel was legit because manuel decided he wanted to try and get an extra 3 yards by running.

[The Cysko Kid]

Hoyer was sliding and it was helmet to helmet. Bullshit. At least we got some payback.

[koalabazooka]

@bizell said:

how'd he cheapshot hoyer? that was a perfectly legitimate hit. hoyer started trying to slide way too late, just like the hit on ej manuel was legit because manuel decided he wanted to try and get an extra 3 yards by running.

You want to see a bad hit, go watch Wilkerson's hit on Locker. Hoyer should've slid earlier or better yet run out of bounds.

[The Cysko Kid]

Both hits were uncalled for. Only one was against my team what happens to your qb is your problem.

[bizell]

except.... he started sliding way too late, and never got hit helmet to helmet. but keep thinking that if it makes ya feel better.

[The Cysko Kid]

I thought the hit on Manuel was also uncalled for. And both our teams will end up hurt this year because of it.

[The Cysko Kid]

Yeah he was hit helmet to helmet. Are you blind?

[bizell]

http://thebiglead.com/2013/10/03/brian-hoyer-took-a-hard-hit-from-kiko-alonso-appeared-to-twist-knee/

if anything TOUCHED hoyer's head, it might have been alonso's shoulder pads.

the link shows a better angle

[The Cysko Kid]

There's never a good reason to crush the qb in today's league. Period.

[The Cysko Kid]

Watch the video not the stills

[Booty Loaf]

your first 10 points were handed to you. cmon, the trick play with your WR throwing a prayer into the endzone and being rewarded at the 1 yardline. then you got set up next drive in field goal range and lost 2 yards and got the 3. lets not forget the 3rd and 6 phantom pass interference in the endzone to set you up at the 1 again. and we had to play the whole game with our backup. our backup is just better than yours . nontheless great game, bills are going to be a consistently good team over the next decade just like i think our browns will be.