Buckeyes
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Luckily, there will be a playoff starting next season.
That seems much more sensible, who on earth came up with the idea of voting which teams are the best? OK, I get that in olden times, when travel was difficult/expensive you don't want more matches than necessary, but this is 2013, surely this should have changed some time ago?
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Luckily, there will be a playoff starting next season.
That seems much more sensible, who on earth came up with the idea of voting which teams are the best? OK, I get that in olden times, when travel was difficult/expensive you don't want more matches than necessary, but this is 2013, surely this should have changed some time ago?
That seems much more sensible, who on earth came up with the idea of voting which teams are the best? OK, I get that in olden times, when travel was difficult/expensive you don't want more matches than necessary, but this is 2013, surely this should have changed some time ago?
Consider college football like evolution: change comes, but it comes very very slowly.
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Well if this was the political forum then we wouldn't consider evolution at all.
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Well if this was the political forum then we wouldn't consider evolution at all.
(In their case, no, evolution has not occurred)
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Real talk, OSU won't be hopping FSU or Oregon any time soon. They haven't looked impressive enough and haven't played as many good teams. If they run the table, along with FSU, Oregon and Bama, they'll be 4th.... that's just the truth. They needed NW to keep playing well, they also need some big wins against highly ranked teams at the end of the year and in the B1G title game.
Or, and you guys never beat Arkansas, remember?
Real talk, OSU won't be hopping FSU or Oregon any time soon. They haven't looked impressive enough and haven't played as many good teams. If they run the table, along with FSU, Oregon and Bama, they'll be 4th.... that's just the truth. They needed NW to keep playing well, they also need some big wins against highly ranked teams at the end of the year and in the B1G title game.
Or, and you guys never beat Arkansas, remember?
2011 Sugar Bowl
Also it hurts OSU that Wisconsin lost a dumb game(refs admitted a mistake), Michigan isn't at its usual position, Vanderbilt dropped out of a game(almost at the last moment) forcing OSU to schedule who was left(San Diego State) and Northwestern basically collapsed after they lost to OSU
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Luckily, there will be a playoff starting next season.
That seems much more sensible, who on earth came up with the idea of voting which teams are the best? OK, I get that in olden times, when travel was difficult/expensive you don't want more matches than necessary, but this is 2013, surely this should have changed some time ago?
That seems much more sensible, who on earth came up with the idea of voting which teams are the best? OK, I get that in olden times, when travel was difficult/expensive you don't want more matches than necessary, but this is 2013, surely this should have changed some time ago?
Its a great system for having some great bowl games, and pre-BCS era there was a ton of bowl games on New Years that you could just sit around and watch all day. However its horrible at deciding who is the best in the country.
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Real talk, OSU won't be hopping FSU or Oregon any time soon. They haven't looked impressive enough and haven't played as many good teams. If they run the table, along with FSU, Oregon and Bama, they'll be 4th.... that's just the truth. They needed NW to keep playing well, they also need some big wins against highly ranked teams at the end of the year and in the B1G title game.
Or, and you guys never beat Arkansas, remember?
2011 Sugar Bowl
Also it hurts OSU that Wisconsin lost a dumb game(refs admitted a mistake), Michigan isn't at its usual position, Vanderbilt dropped out of a game(almost at the last moment) forcing OSU to schedule who was left(San Diego State) and Northwestern basically collapsed after they lost to OSU
2011 Sugar Bowl
Also it hurts OSU that Wisconsin lost a dumb game(refs admitted a mistake), Michigan isn't at its usual position, Vanderbilt dropped out of a game(almost at the last moment) forcing OSU to schedule who was left(San Diego State) and Northwestern basically collapsed after they lost to OSU
So? An SEC team pussed out from playing OSU? Why? So they could schedule like Mideast Bugtussle College?
People claim that OSU's schedule was weak this year. Have you seen the SEC team's nonconference schedules?
Alabama I think plays 2 different Division 1-AA opponents.
Hell I have checked it....and at least 9 of the SEC schools have scheduled 2 games each against lower division opponents:
Alabama: Ga. St. and Chattanooga St.
Arkansas: Samford and UL-Lafayette
Auburn: Western Carolina and Fla. Atlantic
Kentucky: W. Ky and Alabam St.
LSU: UAB and Furman
Ole Miss: SE Missouri and Idaho
Missouri: Ark. St. and Murray St
Tenn: Austin Peay and W. Ky
Vandy: Austin Peay and UMass.
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I wasn't disagreeing with the fact that OSU's schedules isn't really weak when compared to other schools, if you throw vandy on there and remove san diego state its probably right on par with alabama's and fsu's strength wise. The BS era is all about national perception and having the B1G second biggest named schools not being that strong(Michigan, Penn State, and Nebraska) hurts a team like OSU get more votes to get into the NC game.
IMO OSU is the third best(being objective) team in the country behind Alabama and Baylor, think Baylor is underrated and FSU is overrated for their 1 win against Clemson.
Also a few of those teams that you have listed are now FBS schools, unless your defining lower division as non BCS conferences (ie GA State and western KY) only 3 FBS schools played 2 or more FCS schools Clemson and GA tech have 2, and GA State has 3.
Games vs. FCS Schools by Conference http://www.fbschedules.com/2013/02/2013-college-football-scheduling-fbs-vs-fcs/
- ACC - 16
- Big 12 - 8
- Big East - 9
- Big Ten - 10
- C-USA - 7
- Independents - 4
- MAC - 12
- MWC - 10
- Pac-12 - 9
- SEC - 14
- Sun Belt - 10
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I don't see a win against Arkansas, weird.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I don't see a win against Arkansas, weird.
I am assuming you're trolling but confused by the angle, are you trying to pull an SEC trick and ignore what you don't want to admit or a Michigan thing and just trolling to troll?
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I wasn't disagreeing with the fact that OSU's schedules isn't really weak when compared to other schools, if you throw vandy on there and remove san diego state its probably right on par with alabama's and fsu's strength wise. The BS era is all about national perception and having the B1G second biggest named schools not being that strong(Michigan, Penn State, and Nebraska) hurts a team like OSU get more votes to get into the NC game.
IMO OSU is the third best(being objective) team in the country behind Alabama and Baylor, think Baylor is underrated and FSU is overrated for their 1 win against Clemson.
Also a few of those teams that you have listed are now FBS schools, unless your defining lower division as non BCS conferences (ie GA State and western KY) only 3 FBS schools played 2 or more FCS schools Clemson and GA tech have 2, and GA State has 3.
Games vs. FCS Schools by Conference http://www.fbschedules.com/2013/02/2013-college-football-scheduling-fbs-vs-fcs/
- ACC - 16
- Big 12 - 8
- Big East - 9
- Big Ten - 10
- C-USA - 7
- Independents - 4
- MAC - 12
- MWC - 10
- Pac-12 - 9
- SEC - 14
- Sun Belt - 10
I wasn't disagreeing with the fact that OSU's schedules isn't really weak when compared to other schools, if you throw vandy on there and remove san diego state its probably right on par with alabama's and fsu's strength wise. The BS era is all about national perception and having the B1G second biggest named schools not being that strong(Michigan, Penn State, and Nebraska) hurts a team like OSU get more votes to get into the NC game.
IMO OSU is the third best(being objective) team in the country behind Alabama and Baylor, think Baylor is underrated and FSU is overrated for their 1 win against Clemson.
Also a few of those teams that you have listed are now FBS schools, unless your defining lower division as non BCS conferences (ie GA State and western KY) only 3 FBS schools played 2 or more FCS schools Clemson and GA tech have 2, and GA State has 3.
Games vs. FCS Schools by Conference http://www.fbschedules.com/2013/02/2013-college-football-scheduling-fbs-vs-fcs/
- ACC - 16
- Big 12 - 8
- Big East - 9
- Big Ten - 10
- C-USA - 7
- Independents - 4
- MAC - 12
- MWC - 10
- Pac-12 - 9
- SEC - 14
- Sun Belt - 10
Are you saying that either Austin Peay or UMass are now FBS?
Honestly, if the likes of those teams, or W Ky. and Ga. State are FBS, then there should be a rule among the top 6 conferences that none of them should ever be allowed to play an FCS level school. I don't like it that Ohio St. had to schedule the likes of Florida A&M.
Also.....in my opinion, the San Diego St. football program is every bit the equal to if not better than the Vanderbilt football program.
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I guess there are a number of schools that have just recently become FBS level....for whatever reason, that one would have always thought should be in the lower level of schools:
South Alabama
Troy St.
Florida International
Florida Atlantic
Georgia St.
Western KY
Louisiana-Lafayette
Idaho
UMass
New Mex. St.
UTEP
UTSA ( Texas San Antonio)
And, apparently in the next several years the following schools are also supposed to make the jump:
Appalachian St.
Georgia Southern
UNC Charlotte
Old Dominion.
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You can thank college re-alignment and TV deals, as teams like Rutgers and Maryland move from the aac(formerly big east) and acc the old conferences need to get teams to fill the gaps from somewhere.
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You can thank college re-alignment and TV deals, as teams like Rutgers and Maryland move from the aac(formerly big east) and acc the old conferences need to get teams to fill the gaps from somewhere.
You can thank college re-alignment and TV deals, as teams like Rutgers and Maryland move from the aac(formerly big east) and acc the old conferences need to get teams to fill the gaps from somewhere.
I don't know that all conferences need to "fill gaps". Personally I think that an FBS conference should be capped at 12 teams....and that there should be at most 10 conferences.
Right now, there are those 10 conferences:
SEC
Big Ten
Pac-12
Big 12
ACC
AAC
Conf-USA
MAC
Sun Belt
Mountain West
120 teams....max in the division.....but there are already more than that. 122 plus another three or 4 coming in.
OK, I could go along with each conference having either 12 or 14. So give a total max max max of 130 teams.
But...some teams from Conf USA which has16 now need to be shifted.
Or better, shift SMU and Houston now in the AAC back into the Big 12...and shift some of the Conf USA teams into the AAC.
Maryland will be leaving the ACC, so it will drop down to 14, so that is good.
So, maybe the Mountain West, now at 11 could add 1 team....in that regard, something is stupid. Idaho is now an Independent....but is joining the Sun Belt Conf? WTF? Why not join the Mountain West....wit like minded schools, not the Sun Belt.
Stupid
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Can FSU win out if their beloved QB is charged with rape?
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
I don't see a win against Arkansas, weird.
Kind of like those fab 5 teams that didn't exist?
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Ohio State fans are nor secretly hoping that Winston gets arrested in the upcoming days.
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Can FSU win out if their beloved QB is charged with rape?
Can they? Perhaps. Will they.....it would be a lot harder for them.....and they would lose a lot of their votes likely without Winston.
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I am thinking Auburn wins the Iron Bowl.
Alabama looks like they are about to lose
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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