Josh Gordon
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we couldn't draft OL back then because it was illegal.
LMAO...
Bullshit. Couch was sacked 85 times his rookie year, and 110 the next, which resulted in injury. Any asshole that says Couch sucked or was a bust doesn't know shit about football.
No need to exaggerate... the truth was bad enough. It was 56 and 10. He was sacked a total of 166 times in 62 games over his 5-year career.
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Couch had a chance to be good. Just how good we will never know.
Same is true of David Carr who was sacked 76 times in his rookie year. He was sacked 249 times in 76 games in his 5-years with Houston.
If we stand pat with our existing O-line, then a few years down the road we'll be arguing about how good Hoyer and our 2014 QB draft pick could have been.
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I'd rather him get a year then trade him at this point. Lets see how the season finishes but the talent is just too immense,
I'd rather him get a year then trade him at this point. Lets see how the season finishes but the talent is just too immense,
I agree with you bud. At this point with what he's accomplished so far in his career, if he tests dirty and gets popped for a year I think he's still worth it. I'm not 100% sure but I think he signed a 5 year deal so he'd still give us 2 years in the cheap cause I don't think he'd have the balls to demand a new deal before his rookie contracts up.
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Agreed & add a Watkins or Lee in the draft & we get real scary, real fast!
Mike
Either of those two and a vet FA will make defenses play more zone ,thus openning more pockets and lanes and will magically make the running game better...now we just need the QB to be consistent. And by QB, I mean something much more than a common game manager like Trent Dilfer or Joe Flacco...we need a QB that can take over and dictate the game .
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Yes, I agree with you the o-line is important. But it's funny how much better they looked when Hoyer wasn't taking all day to unload the ball. To a certain extent, a great qb can make the o-line look way better than they are- would you trade our o-line straight up for Denver's right now? Or for New England's? I wouldn't. Mr. Hoorta
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No, that was not funny, it was a gigantic breath of fresh air !
Yes, my point was that a "great" qb sucks behind an oline that can't block...
but that a line good enough to block, is helped hugely by the addition of a qb
that lifts the entire offense up by actually being a legit, smart qb.
We are at that point now. Need another big, quick footed, pass protecting OG,
but the Browns have plenty enough oline to make it work great, with a great
qb added. If the Browns, back in the day, drafted Peyton Manning...his career
would have been over years ago...
The Browns need that qb yesterday. Yes, Hoyer really showed that the talent is there
to succeed, given a qb with "it".
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Josh gordon is good but this video is fvcking ridiculous.
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he's better than good...and way better than Antonio Brown..
Typicl windbag nickers. One you cant say hes way better than brown. Two hes being forced fed all game long and the browns have had a bunch of garbage time. Hes not calvin johnson and that dip in that video is a brain dead moron. I guess he doesnt realize that megatron is 6`5 an runs a sub 4.4. Hes also a damn mt. Muscle wise.
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Gordon > Megatron >>>>>Antonio Brown
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he's better than good...and way better than Antonio Brown..
Typicl windbag nickers. One you cant say hes way better than brown. Two hes being forced fed all game long and the browns have had a bunch of garbage time. Hes not calvin johnson and that dip in that video is a brain dead moron. I guess he doesnt realize that megatron is 6`5 an runs a sub 4.4. Hes also a damn mt. Muscle wise.
. Two hes being forced fed all game long and the browns have had a bunch of garbage time.
So ... you've watched, what, one Browns game this year?
Last week, with the Browns up 12-3 late in the third quarter, he was "force fed" a pass in the left flat, he stiffed armed his defender out of the way and outran the defense for an 80 yard TD. Not one second of "garbage time" in the game.
Week before, after being "force fed" a 21 yard TD pass that gave us the lead 14-7 in the second quarter, he was "force fed" a ball down the right sideline which he grabbed and out ran the entire defense again, this time 95 yards, to put the team back on top, 28-25 late in the fourth quarter. Not one second of "garbage time" in the game.
Zombo
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he's better than good...and way better than Antonio Brown..
Typicl windbag nickers. One you cant say hes way better than brown. Two hes being forced fed all game long and the browns have had a bunch of garbage time. Hes not calvin johnson and that dip in that video is a brain dead moron. I guess he doesnt realize that megatron is 6`5 an runs a sub 4.4. Hes also a damn mt. Muscle wise.
Typicl windbag nickers. One you cant say hes way better than brown. Two hes being forced fed all game long and the browns have had a bunch of garbage time. Hes not calvin johnson and that dip in that video is a brain dead moron. I guess he doesnt realize that megatron is 6`5 an runs a sub 4.4. Hes also a damn mt. Muscle wise.
Yeah,thats the sort of response I expected from a Stooler fan like you...You just cant admit he miles and away better than Brown...he (Gordon) owns an NFL recxord on a Also-Ran team in what ,his 2nd season?..you cant refute what hes done...He's outplayed Megatron this season hands down. And scarier yet. The kid hasnt even touched the surface of his talent yet. hide your head in Browns ass all you want...But look in the Mirror first,before calling someone a windbag you dumb hillbilly moron.
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he's better than good...and way better than Antonio Brown..
Typicl windbag nickers. One you cant say hes way better than brown. Two hes being forced fed all game long and the browns have had a bunch of garbage time. Hes not calvin johnson and that dip in that video is a brain dead moron. I guess he doesnt realize that megatron is 6`5 an runs a sub 4.4. Hes also a damn mt. Muscle wise.
Typicl windbag nickers. One you cant say hes way better than brown. Two hes being forced fed all game long and the browns have had a bunch of garbage time. Hes not calvin johnson and that dip in that video is a brain dead moron. I guess he doesnt realize that megatron is 6`5 an runs a sub 4.4. Hes also a damn mt. Muscle wise.
One, we're not the ones saying Gordon is better than Brown. The entire league is. ESPN is. I don't think you'll find one talking head that disagrees.
Two, we've led until the last minute in our last two games. We've led at some point in the fourth quarter in seven games this season. We've been blown out out twice. When is the garbage time exactly?
Three, Gordon is the best WR in the league as of now. He has only 4 more catches than Megatron, on 15 less targets, for 50 more yards. He tallied 263 yards in one game despite sitting out for an entire quarter.
He's second in the league in average yards per reception. He's second in the league in YAC. He has the longest play from scrimmage in the NFL. And he's top 10 in nearly everything else.
Four, he's 6'3 and is every bit as fast as Megatron. He ran a 4.5 at his Pro Day - with a partially torn hamstring.
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he's better than good...and way better than Antonio Brown..
Typicl windbag nickers. One you cant say hes way better than brown. Two hes being forced fed all game long and the browns have had a bunch of garbage time. Hes not calvin johnson and that dip in that video is a brain dead moron. I guess he doesnt realize that megatron is 6`5 an runs a sub 4.4. Hes also a damn mt. Muscle wise.
Typicl windbag nickers. One you cant say hes way better than brown. Two hes being forced fed all game long and the browns have had a bunch of garbage time. Hes not calvin johnson and that dip in that video is a brain dead moron. I guess he doesnt realize that megatron is 6`5 an runs a sub 4.4. Hes also a damn mt. Muscle wise.
Why would he be getting "force fed" the ball? Could it be that he is the best receiver on a struggling team? That would then imply that the opposing defenses know exactly who they need to stop but they appear not to be able to accomplish that goal.
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Gordon has all the tools you'd want in a number 1 receiver. I hope he stays on the straight and narrow and the FO continues to put pieces around him to be successful.
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Typicl windbag nickers. One you cant say hes way better than brown. Two hes being forced fed all game long and the browns have had a bunch of garbage time. Hes not calvin johnson and that dip in that video is a brain dead moron. I guess he doesnt realize that megatron is 6`5 an runs a sub 4.4. Hes also a damn mt. Muscle wise.
One, we're not the ones saying Gordon is better than Brown. The entire league is. ESPN is. I don't think you'll find one talking head that disagrees.
Two, we've led until the last minute in our last two games. We've led at some point in the fourth quarter in seven games this season. We've been blown out out twice. When is the garbage time exactly?
Three, Gordon is the best WR in the league as of now. He has only 4 more catches than Megatron, on 15 less targets, for 50 more yards. He tallied 263 yards in one game despite sitting out for an entire quarter.
He's second in the league in average yards per reception. He's second in the league in YAC. He has the longest play from scrimmage in the NFL. And he's top 10 in nearly everything else.
Four, he's 6'3 and is every bit as fast as Megatron. He ran a 4.5 at his Pro Day - with a partially torn hamstring.
One, we're not the ones saying Gordon is better than Brown. The entire league is. ESPN is. I don't think you'll find one talking head that disagrees.
Two, we've led until the last minute in our last two games. We've led at some point in the fourth quarter in seven games this season. We've been blown out out twice. When is the garbage time exactly?
Three, Gordon is the best WR in the league as of now. He has only 4 more catches than Megatron, on 15 less targets, for 50 more yards. He tallied 263 yards in one game despite sitting out for an entire quarter.
He's second in the league in average yards per reception. He's second in the league in YAC. He has the longest play from scrimmage in the NFL. And he's top 10 in nearly everything else.
Four, he's 6'3 and is every bit as fast as Megatron. He ran a 4.5 at his Pro Day - with a partially torn hamstring.
Let's add in he's had three different quarterbacks (one of which sucks) tossing him the ball. LOL, ESPN brought that one up. Yeah, call me a homer, but put Josh on the Broncos with Manning @ qb for a 16 game season, and he'd end up with around 2,500 yards.
PS, no one has caught Gordon from behind yet- I've heard his healthy 40 time is around 4.38, and he has terrific "game speed" not just track speed.
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hey for once yesterday ESPN actually mentioned the browns at least once or twice during their day-time schedule because of the cutler/mccown discussion.
skip bayless who i hate, actually picked the browns to win and both of those windbags mentioned gordon as being a beast. he set a NFL record for (ypc or yac.....something) in a four game span. and they mentioned that he IS megatron fast.
so yeah, i'd say he's pretty good.
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Typicl windbag nickers. One you cant say hes way better than brown. Two hes being forced fed all game long and the browns have had a bunch of garbage time. Hes not calvin johnson and that dip in that video is a brain dead moron. I guess he doesnt realize that megatron is 6`5 an runs a sub 4.4. Hes also a damn mt. Muscle wise.
One, we're not the ones saying Gordon is better than Brown. The entire league is. ESPN is. I don't think you'll find one talking head that disagrees.
Two, we've led until the last minute in our last two games. We've led at some point in the fourth quarter in seven games this season. We've been blown out out twice. When is the garbage time exactly?
Three, Gordon is the best WR in the league as of now. He has only 4 more catches than Megatron, on 15 less targets, for 50 more yards. He tallied 263 yards in one game despite sitting out for an entire quarter.
He's second in the league in average yards per reception. He's second in the league in YAC. He has the longest play from scrimmage in the NFL. And he's top 10 in nearly everything else.
Four, he's 6'3 and is every bit as fast as Megatron. He ran a 4.5 at his Pro Day - with a partially torn hamstring.
One, we're not the ones saying Gordon is better than Brown. The entire league is. ESPN is. I don't think you'll find one talking head that disagrees.
Two, we've led until the last minute in our last two games. We've led at some point in the fourth quarter in seven games this season. We've been blown out out twice. When is the garbage time exactly?
Three, Gordon is the best WR in the league as of now. He has only 4 more catches than Megatron, on 15 less targets, for 50 more yards. He tallied 263 yards in one game despite sitting out for an entire quarter.
He's second in the league in average yards per reception. He's second in the league in YAC. He has the longest play from scrimmage in the NFL. And he's top 10 in nearly everything else.
Four, he's 6'3 and is every bit as fast as Megatron. He ran a 4.5 at his Pro Day - with a partially torn hamstring
When did the nfl become fantasy football? Josh gordon is very good but hes not better than megatron just because he has better stats this season. He wa also drafted in the supplemental for a reason, off the field character concerns. There isnt a person on th planet that would take gordon over calvin johnson.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
One, we're not the ones saying Gordon is better than Brown. The entire league is. ESPN is. I don't think you'll find one talking head that disagrees.
Two, we've led until the last minute in our last two games. We've led at some point in the fourth quarter in seven games this season. We've been blown out out twice. When is the garbage time exactly?
Three, Gordon is the best WR in the league as of now. He has only 4 more catches than Megatron, on 15 less targets, for 50 more yards. He tallied 263 yards in one game despite sitting out for an entire quarter.
He's second in the league in average yards per reception. He's second in the league in YAC. He has the longest play from scrimmage in the NFL. And he's top 10 in nearly everything else.
Four, he's 6'3 and is every bit as fast as Megatron. He ran a 4.5 at his Pro Day - with a partially torn hamstring
When did the nfl become fantasy football? Josh gordon is very good but hes not better than megatron just because he has better stats this season. He wa also drafted in the supplemental for a reason, off the field character concerns. There isnt a person on th planet that would take gordon over calvin johnson.
When did the nfl become fantasy football? Josh gordon is very good but hes not better than megatron just because he has better stats this season. He wa also drafted in the supplemental for a reason, off the field character concerns. There isnt a person on th planet that would take gordon over calvin johnson.
yeah you're right.
but gordon would be next on the list.
hey man, don't get bitter on the holidays. after sunday you'll be sittin drinkin eggnog like the rest of us while you're team is planning for next year.
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I think Gordon might be running a 4.35 right now.
And i would also contend that Gordon is a better all around receiver then Brown, who's more of a quick/small threat.
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I would rank WRs as
1. Megatron
2. A J Green
3. Julio Jones (if healthy)
4. Gordon
5. Dez Bryant
Gordon could definitely move up to 2 very easily but you have to be at the top for multiple seasons
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