Josh McDaniels

Unsympathetic

Watch McDaniels come in and demand Gordon and Haden and Thomas get traded for "being prima donnas" - even though of course those players are not.

I can't wait to see how stupid this self-preening monstrosity of fail will be.

VaporTrail

I care about the Browns so much, I'm going to root against them if we pick up McDaniels. This is the only way that we can get rid of the cancer that is Banner and Lombardi.

thenew23

I'm sick of Browns fans... Some of you guys already hate whoever our next coach is, and will bitch about him until the day he's fired, and then bitch that he was fired, and then hate the next coach... it's pure insanity. You already hate the new owner, the guy he hired as CEO, and the guy he hired as GM...

Give it a rest...

Here's a thought... How about if McDaniels gets hired and becomes the next best HC in the NFL and everybody in the league is talking about how great of a decision that was b/c he appears to be humbled by his time in Denver and seems to have brought a lot of poise and confidence to a rattled franchise as they prepare for their home playoff game... Nope, would never happen, right????

We should hire........... who? All you guys bitching about McDaniels, who do you want??

jcam222

@thenew23 said:

I'm sick of Browns fans... Some of you guys already hate whoever our next coach is, and will bitch about him until the day he's fired, and then bitch that he was fired, and then hate the next coach... it's pure insanity. You already hate the new owner, the guy he hired as CEO, and the guy he hired as GM...

Give it a rest...

Here's a thought... How about if McDaniels gets hired and becomes the next best HC in the NFL and everybody in the league is talking about how great of a decision that was b/c he appears to be humbled by his time in Denver and seems to have brought a lot of poise and confidence to a rattled franchise as they prepare for their home playoff game... Nope, would never happen, right????

We should hire........... who? All you guys bitching about McDaniels, who do you want??

Starting off your post on a Browns board you lead with " I'm sick of Browns fans" I am sure there are a few that might be sick of you too. The fact some of us think it sucks they fired Chud , or beyond that they simply went against their stance on maintaining continuity through the rebuilding stages, doesn't make us chronic bitches. The thousands of dollars I have spent on the Browns gives me the right to bitch anyway whether you like it or not.

Regarding the new owner sure I am disappointed in him some, he is a criminal that may not even own the team long term. Banner is a bean counter that will fuck a guy in a heartbeat and Lombardi is Lombardi. If Jimmy were so committed to winning and refused to accept mediocrity he would have fired Banner and Lombardi after the season as well.

Regarding McDaniels please by all means build us the case that makes him an attractive head coach candidate. He failed miserably in Denver as a head coach, he failed miserably as an OC in St Louis and only at home with Papa Belichick has he done well. That stands true for most of the spawn of the Belichick tree.

Lastly please elaborate why we shouldn't be hating. What have you seen that brings your love for the current FO and its decisions

thenew23

@jcam222 said:

Starting off your post on a Browns board you lead with " I'm sick of Browns fans" I am sure there are a few that might be sick of you too. The fact some of us think it sucks they fired Chud , or beyond that they simply went against their stance on maintaining continuity through the rebuilding stages, doesn't make us chronic bitches. The thousands of dollars I have spent on the Browns gives me the right to bitch anyway whether you like it or not.

Regarding the new owner sure I am disappointed in him some, he is a criminal that may not even own the team long term. Banner is a bean counter that will fuck a guy in a heartbeat and Lombardi is Lombardi. If Jimmy were so committed to winning and refused to accept mediocrity he would have fired Banner and Lombardi after the season as well.

Regarding McDaniels please by all means build us the case that makes him an attractive head coach candidate. He failed miserably in Denver as a head coach, he failed miserably as an OC in St Louis and only at home with Papa Belichick has he done well. That stands true for most of the spawn of the Belichick tree.

Lastly please elaborate why we shouldn't be hating. What have you seen that brings your love for the current FO and its decisions

Your "thousands of dollars" comment is pointless. If you hate the FO so much, quit giving them your money.

Never said anything about love for the current FO, just some faith and hope. And if u want, I'll make a case for McDaniels... Who can u make a case for?

Blatant hate does nothing but continue to spawn negativity. Maybe trusting our guys and giving them a vote of confidence, around the stadium and in the media, might be a start of something different. Sure, Browns fans are the most passionate in the league, but make a mistake and that passion will be directed at getting your ass fired. Whether your a coach, player, or other... I'm guilty of it too at times, but we need to put ourselves in check sometimes and start rooting for the guys in the positions that can get this thing going... It's easy to assume the worst about everybody that comes here, how about growing a pair and start assuming the best might happen... that takes guts as a fan... I'll quit ranting, just my 2 cents, or "thousands of dollars" worth of thought...

D Bone

There certainly does seem to be a certain type of Browns fan that will complain, almost just to hear themselves complain. Like Randy Quaid's character in Major League. I hate where the Browns are in terms of wins, no doubt about it, but even with that being said I feel better right now then I did the last few years Lerner owned the team.

Hopefully ownership and management will get this right. One thing for sure is they aren't afraid to do what they feel they need to do to make the Browns a winner, and they don't give a Flying J what anyone else thinks.

VaporTrail

@thenew23 said:

Your "thousands of dollars" comment is pointless. If you hate the FO so much, quit giving them your money.

Never said anything about love for the current FO, just some faith and hope. And if u want, I'll make a case for McDaniels... Who can u make a case for?

Blatant hate does nothing but continue to spawn negativity. Maybe trusting our guys and giving them a vote of confidence, around the stadium and in the media, might be a start of something different. Sure, Browns fans are the most passionate in the league, but make a mistake and that passion will be directed at getting your ass fired. Whether your a coach, player, or other... I'm guilty of it too at times, but we need to put ourselves in check sometimes and start rooting for the guys in the positions that can get this thing going... It's easy to assume the worst about everybody that comes here, how about growing a pair and start assuming the best might happen... that takes guts as a fan... I'll quit ranting, just my 2 cents, or "thousands of dollars" worth of thought...

Sorry dude, I've been optimistic and trusting in the Browns since their return, and have been rewarded with nothing but a single first-round exit. Banner has already exhibited his ability to scare off top coaching talent last year, seeing as Chud was his fifth choice (sixth if you count Saban). Now, because they've fired Chud after one year, they've made the Browns the indisputable worst franchise in the league, and it's somehow a worse place to coach. It's insane to me that we have 6 total Pro Bowlers/All-Pros yet we still have difficulty finding a coach. Since 1999, we've never been more set up for failure. Banner is a metastasizing cancer, and until he is gone, this franchise is going to be the laughingstock of the league.

Taco918

@thenew23 said:

Your "thousands of dollars" comment is pointless. If you hate the FO so much, quit giving them your money.

Never said anything about love for the current FO, just some faith and hope. And if u want, I'll make a case for McDaniels... Who can u make a case for?

Blatant hate does nothing but continue to spawn negativity. Maybe trusting our guys and giving them a vote of confidence, around the stadium and in the media, might be a start of something different. Sure, Browns fans are the most passionate in the league, but make a mistake and that passion will be directed at getting your ass fired. Whether your a coach, player, or other... I'm guilty of it too at times, but we need to put ourselves in check sometimes and start rooting for the guys in the positions that can get this thing going... It's easy to assume the worst about everybody that comes here, how about growing a pair and start assuming the best might happen... that takes guts as a fan... I'll quit ranting, just my 2 cents, or "thousands of dollars" worth of thought...

"but we need to put ourselves in check sometimes and start rooting for the guys in the positions that can get this thing going..."

Once the FO starts doing this then I'll follow suit.

bbedward

@thenew23 said:

I'm sick of Browns fans... Some of you guys already hate whoever our next coach is, and will bitch about him until the day he's fired, and then bitch that he was fired, and then hate the next coach... it's pure insanity. You already hate the new owner, the guy he hired as CEO, and the guy he hired as GM...

Give it a rest...

Here's a thought... How about if McDaniels gets hired and becomes the next best HC in the NFL and everybody in the league is talking about how great of a decision that was b/c he appears to be humbled by his time in Denver and seems to have brought a lot of poise and confidence to a rattled franchise as they prepare for their home playoff game... Nope, would never happen, right????

We should hire........... who? All you guys bitching about McDaniels, who do you want??

There's been a lot of Ifs over the years, how many worked out?

Forgive the Browns fans skepticism as it's well justified.

calfoxwc

Great. a non-Browns fan comes in here to bitch about us bitching, like

that's all we need.

How many coaches does it take til they know that a coach with not enough

talent to win, won't win?

Chud was the first coach I liked since...well,,,eh.....Sam Rutigliano, I think.

The drafting, so many times for years, was a joke. But the head coaches just kept

getting gone.

The Browns don't need McDaniels, although the 3 potato heads in the fo

would like him, because they could tell him to screw with any expensive

player, for example, and he'd do it.

McDaniels once was so arrogant, he messed with Tom Brady, and

the two of them didn't talk for three weeks.

Butticheck grew up, whereas McDaniels hasn't. And he's a local boy

around this part of Ohio.

Nah. McDaniels has had trouble with players at Denver, and now

the Pats.... and.... nah.

ClevelandFanForLife

For those complaining about possibly getting McDaniels, please say who you think would be better that we could actually get to come here. I posted this a few pages back and as far I've noticed, I haven't seen a response yet. Who do you want? Stop complaining and post who you would want to come here.

LBC mike

bob stoops, todd haley, bowles, etc..

MDDawg

The only good thing about a McDaniels hire is that it will accelerate an implosion of this front office.You can book the following: Gordon traded, Ward released, mishandled draft, BS free agent signings, continued roster turnover during the season with consequent negative impact on the team (remember Bobby Rainey?) McDaniels will be totally in sync with their decisions so they won't have anyone to scapegoat and Jimmy will kick 'em all out.

Next stop will be a forced sale by NFL to remove the negative publicity of the Crook Owner/PFJ rebate scam. This regime makes Lerner's look competent.

ClevelandFanForLife

@lbc-mike said:
bob stoops, todd haley, bowles, etc..

Fair enough. Care to elaborate why?

Westside Steve

@vaportrail said:
I care about the Browns so much, I'm going to root against them if we pick up McDaniels. This is the only way that we can get rid of the cancer that is Banner and Lombardi.

Sounds like some Browns fans of yore who rooted for the team to lose so they could rid themselves of Bill Belichick.

WSS

MDDawg

@clevelandfanforlife said:
For those complaining about possibly getting McDaniels, please say who you think would be better that we could actually get to come here. I posted this a few pages back and as far I've noticed, I haven't seen a response yet. Who do you want? Stop complaining and post who you would want to come here.

Caldwell, Zimmer, Bowles,Wisenhunt to name a few and maybe the Auburn Coach.

ClevelandFanForLife

@mddawg said:
Caldwell, Zimmer, Bowles,Wisenhunt to name a few and maybe the Auburn Coach.

do you really think Wisenhunt or Caldwell would come here? Those guys can choose where they want to go if they have another good season. The other guys we may be able to get but maybe not.

Suomi

_{No college coaches, please. This is the NFL, and I'd prefer a coach with NFL experience. The Kelly experiment will go down to the New Orleans Saints tonight.}

bbedward

@clevelandfanforlife said:
do you really think Wisenhunt or Caldwell would come here? Those guys can choose where they want to go if they have another good season. The other guys we may be able to get but maybe not.

And Bowles cancelled the interview.

Shep

Blech. I can't even participate in a conversation that starts with, "If the Browns hire the guy I don't like, I'll quit following them because I know so much better than they do."

Not even sure where that conversation goes.