Trading up ...
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come on man! you're supposed to be a reporter reporting things unbiased to us browns' fans. as such you can't be going around saying hop on the johnny football train or bridgewater is worth a number one pick overall.
there is NO qb in this draft that is worth a consensus #1 pick. not at all. now if bridgewater was built like kaepernik i would be all about doing a redskins deal to get that guy. 2 of the top 5 QBs are shorter than webster and have a body structure like a twig. you really want to TRADE UP for a guy who when the wind blows bows and the cradle will rock?
fuck that noise. get us the best D playmaker or the best O player and i ain't talking QB.
the gems will be gleaming in 2015. let's se what hoyer can do with the draft picks and FA signings we get from the new jewratbastardo FO this year. if they seem competent then go balls to the wall in 2015 and pick up hundley or winston.
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@mike-h said:
If you read what I wrote, I'm simply looking at it from a different perspective for discussion. I think I even Saud I dont advocate or put my name on anything until I do my own work.
but mike, i don't even know you (but respect you cuz you know why) anything you type on your computer nowadays or leave on the internet is 'YOUR WORK'.
it's a whole new ballgame with social media nowadays. any slip up on twatter or fuckbook could send your career spiraling down the shit tube.
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@mike-h said:
Hoorta + Hipper:
You CAN'T say there is no franchise QB in this class.
The top tier guys all have some really good attributes.
As for there being no Andrew Luck in this class....Not every franchise QB was a no-brainer No. 1 overall pick.
The team will be put in a tough position if it can't find it's top rated QB and then put a value on him.
If they rate Bortles, Teddy or Johnny Football as that No. 1, how can they NOT trade up to get their top guy? The risk of missing the guy they handpicked for another gamble of a draft pick is not good reasoning.
I don't know yet whether I would do that because I haven't seen enough Bortles or JFF, but Bridgewater looks really appealing. If the other two are close, or better, I think I would stay put at 4, but in not so sure that's the case, yet.
If they surrender a pick to move up, they have plenty of ammo to move up again throughout the draft. That's my only real point here.
10 draft picks are for positioning. Any takers for a bet that Lombardi doesn't draft 10 players in May?
So you're telling me there ARE sure fire franchise qbs in this draft? Really? Go prove it. Or would you like me to give you a list of the "sure fire franchise qbs" that busted big time since the Browns return? I can start with Akillii Smith, Joey Harrington,Mat Leinart (man Shep was all over his schlong) and keep on going if you like. Oh, I will- I forgot about #1 overall, Jafatass Russell. Now if you want to try and make a feeble point that anyone in this current crop of qbs has superiority over any of those in some measurables- go ahead, and be my guest.
+ Har,har, har. Suppose the guy the Browns want is also the guy the Texans want and they tell the Browns "we aren't trading". Makes the Stooges look even Stoogier.
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They don't have to be starters- just add quality depth. And we can do what we did last year trade some of those lower picks for higher picks in 2015.
Question is- is there a true franchise sure-fire guy in this draft? There's no Andrew Luck. Trade the 2nd first for someone's first AND second in 2015 when we have a shot at Mariotta. I doubt Haslam's going to have the patience though- he's in a "win now" mode. Well you can't win with inferior talent. I thought you were in it for sustainable success Jimmy, or did I hear you wrong?
History says one of the 4 will be great, one will be average, one below average, and one a total bust. Step right up any play draft day roulette.
Maybe this time the Browns should bet on black.
Maybe this time the Browns should bet on black.
....are you saying draft Bridgewater?
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Maybe this time the Browns should bet on black.
....are you saying draft Bridgewater?
....are you saying draft Bridgewater?
HA!!
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@mike-h said:
You guys, man.... how many times has any team drafted solely for need and then inserted all of their rookies into their starting lineups the following season?
It doesn't happen. 10 picks is a luxury--and those picks were compiled for a reason: to get the Browns' franchise QB. Whether or not that requires a trade up from the No. 4 pick, or another pick to a higher selection, the probability of some type of trade on draft day is huge.
OK....but that would be great IF there were a QB rated like Luck or RGIII there to trade up to get. In this draft, there ain't. Bridgewater seems the best rated....but he is by no means the consensus best QB out there. Bortles/Manziel/Carr all get their run as well. Getting the guy considered the best in this draft is no sure thing that he will be better than the guy taken #100,
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OK....but that would be great IF there were a QB rated like Luck or RGIII there to trade up to get. In this draft, there ain't. Bridgewater seems the best rated....but he is by no means the consensus best QB out there. Bortles/Manziel/Carr all get their run as well. Getting the guy considered the best in this draft is no sure thing that he will be better than the guy taken #100,
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Why would we trade up to get another RGIII?
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because 1/2 of our fanbase are little cunnies who fall in love with their dream boy QB and HAVE to HAVE him. just like lombardi.
it would be one of the worse moves in franchise history (see trent richardson) but don't be surprised when it happens with this front office and haslam's love for a good 'ol spoiled southern boy just like him in manziel.
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When was the last time our FO drafted the big-time QB?? Hmmm... Couch? who was probably our best QB since '99... maybe that's the problem...
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if you think any of these guys are 'big-time' your head must have exploded in the draft class of 1983, that is if you were even born yet (not bustin balls, just don't know how old you are).
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@mike-h said:
I love how people are so SURE none of these guys are going to be good NFL QBs. I'm taking a break.
I recommend not having such adamant opinions when youre basing your ideas off of second or third hand knowledge.
i think the point that you are taking offense to is a lot of think there are going to be good QBs............ but which one? just like TR was touted as being the best RB. what happened there.
the way this FO and previous ones have over-reached, made really dumb picks has a lot of us not trusting their decision making.
a lot of minds and opinions will change pro and con on these guys between now and may. i don't think it's time to put all your eggs in one basket on one guy just yet.
IMO if we do draft a QB i'd do it with our second pick or look for a sleeper in a later round. i'm watching russell wilson play like the best QB in the league right now, and when was he picked? i'm sure manziel would be available to us with our number 2 pick if his hype machine wasn't working overtime. he and his 'team' of PR guys have done all they can to keep his name on every sports show and website that he'll probably be the second QB picked.
don't get so butt-hurt over other people's opinions. people are allowed to have different thoughts and ideas than you or i.
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if you think any of these guys are 'big-time' your head must have exploded in the draft class of 1983, that is if you were even born yet (not bustin balls, just don't know how old you are).
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