uni fags...what happened?
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It's hard to market a losing franchise. Hillis jerseys did fairly well if I reemmber correctly. Why? Cause he was a tank that made the ESPN highlight reels. Good players will hvae that effect. We play well and get good players here, merchandise sales will go up. Teams like the Yankees and Cowboys sell merchandise even if they were to suck every year. It's just a culture thing, you can't compete with that. There are people in 3rd world countries that will wear yankees and cowboy shit while not entirely even realizing what sport those logo's even come from. We can't nor should we try to compete with that from a marketing perspective. For us, wins drive the sales. No more no less.
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Merchandising sales are a reflection of how popular teams are.....and popularity is determined by how much winning a team does.
In the Browns case their merchandising sales are not a reflection of their color scheme.....but of their shitty record over many years now.
Ya Follow?
If the Browns win a couple Super Bowls in a row, they will sell more shit than anyone else.
The Cowboys, Raiders & Redskins say hello.. All 3 very popular teams that don't win and sell a ton of merchandise..
The Cowboys, Raiders & Redskins say hello.. All 3 very popular teams that don't win and sell a ton of merchandise..
yep and they haven't changed a thing since the beginning of time.
BUT they are 'america's team'. the 'gangsta team' and the 'RG3 team'.
nation's capital has a lot to do with the sales of those unis since they haven't won shit except the contempt of every native american and the luxury of stoopid tourists bussing in from idaho looking for a memorabilia piece for their grandson.
hey kid, don't look into the microwave and watch the food cook.
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The Cowboys, Raiders & Redskins say hello.. All 3 very popular teams that don't win and sell a ton of merchandise..
yep and they haven't changed a thing since the beginning of time.
BUT they are 'america's team'. the 'gangsta team' and the 'RG3 team'.
nation's capital has a lot to do with the sales of those unis since they haven't won shit except the contempt of every native american and the luxury of stoopid tourists bussing in from idaho looking for a memorabilia piece for their grandson.
hey kid, don't look into the microwave and watch the food cook.
yep and they haven't changed a thing since the beginning of time.
BUT they are 'america's team'. the 'gangsta team' and the 'RG3 team'.
Not to mention in the case of the Cowboys, they are on TV all the damn time and although they haven't "won" anything lately, they've been in the playoff hunt on the last weekend of the season for the last bunch of years. Something I would trade one of my kids for us to be able to say about the Browns.
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Taking a page from the ProBowl playbook on their uniforms. I really liked the names on the back of the jerseys in orange writing.
We need orange pants. You could really make the Brown and Orange and White into a really neat and cool design on the uniforms if they just put some fucking effort into them.
Taking a page from the ProBowl playbook on their uniforms. I really liked the names on the back of the jerseys in orange writing.
We need orange pants. You could really make the Brown and Orange and White into a really neat and cool design on the uniforms if they just put some fucking effort into them.
I'd have to see that neon crap in person to know for sure. I don't like the look of it on TV. Orange will stand out on its own. Orange pants or at least a partial orange pant does have some possibilities.
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I think adding silver to the color scheme would be good. I think they also want an official logo but the helmet will remain logoless and will also be the alternate logo.
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I think adding silver to the color scheme would be good. I think they also want an official logo but the helmet will remain logoless and will also be the alternate logo.
I think adding silver to the color scheme would be good. I think they also want an official logo but the helmet will remain logoless and will also be the alternate logo.
they already have an official logo it's the profile of the helmet.
that angry scrunched-up looking elf is ugly as shit. it looks like a cross between of a pig snouted cow and the fighting irish guy. i wanna slap who ever came up with that disturbing bowl ringer. a twelve year old using crayons and drawing stick figures could do a better job.
putting something on the helmet is officially not going to happen. maybe throwing a patch on the jersey above the #'s on the left chest would be fine.
i don't think they'll add another color to the traditional 3 (brown, orange and white) but you can still do a lot w/o changing anything....i.e. brown numbers on orange jerseys throw a white stroke around them. white numbers on a brown jersey throw an orange stroke around them etc.
simple as that.
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You don't like the orange name color on the backs of the jerseys? It would probably look tight on the brown jerseys.
Silver?
You don't like the orange name color on the backs of the jerseys? It would probably look tight on the brown jerseys.
The Pro-Bowl orange reminded me of some 30+ year-old golf balls I have around here somewhere... I'll pass...
... those all brown pants have to be changed- ...- the all-brown pants look like walking turds.
Agree 100%... white pin-stripes or something...
... plus the white face masks...
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I think adding silver to the color scheme would be good. I think they also want an official logo but the helmet will remain logoless and will also be the alternate logo.
they already have an official logo it's the profile of the helmet.
that angry scrunched-up looking elf is ugly as shit. it looks like a cross between of a pig snouted cow and the fighting irish guy. i wanna slap who ever came up with that disturbing bowl ringer. a twelve year old using crayons and drawing stick figures could do a better job.
putting something on the helmet is officially not going to happen. maybe throwing a patch on the jersey above the #'s on the left chest would be fine.
i don't think they'll add another color to the traditional 3 (brown, orange and white) but you can still do a lot w/o changing anything....i.e. brown numbers on orange jerseys throw a white stroke around them. white numbers on a brown jersey throw an orange stroke around them etc.
simple as that.
they already have an official logo it's the profile of the helmet.
that angry scrunched-up looking elf is ugly as shit. it looks like a cross between of a pig snouted cow and the fighting irish guy. i wanna slap who ever came up with that disturbing bowl ringer. a twelve year old using crayons and drawing stick figures could do a better job.
putting something on the helmet is officially not going to happen. maybe throwing a patch on the jersey above the #'s on the left chest would be fine.
i don't think they'll add another color to the traditional 3 (brown, orange and white) but you can still do a lot w/o changing anything....i.e. brown numbers on orange jerseys throw a white stroke around them. white numbers on a brown jersey throw an orange stroke around them etc.
simple as that.
Let's see your shot at a better job.
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miktoxic I stated the same thing as you, that the helmet will remain logoless. Haslam has said that too, however they are open to getting a new main logo which will be on merchandise and the official likeness of the Browns. The helmet logo which is currently our main would become an alternate.
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they already have an official logo it's the profile of the helmet.
that angry scrunched-up looking elf is ugly as shit. it looks like a cross between of a pig snouted cow and the fighting irish guy. i wanna slap who ever came up with that disturbing bowl ringer. a twelve year old using crayons and drawing stick figures could do a better job.
putting something on the helmet is officially not going to happen. maybe throwing a patch on the jersey above the #'s on the left chest would be fine.
i don't think they'll add another color to the traditional 3 (brown, orange and white) but you can still do a lot w/o changing anything....i.e. brown numbers on orange jerseys throw a white stroke around them. white numbers on a brown jersey throw an orange stroke around them etc.
simple as that.
Let's see your shot at a better job.
Let's see your shot at a better job.
what doing a logo in my 'spare' time of an evil looking elf/brownie?
no. that's like asking you to wok double-time at hardeees for free.
show me the money.
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Yeah that's what I thought. The old "I'm not getting paid" such a overused excuse
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You have enough spare time to hang around the browns board all day. And you're apparently the greatest designer the world has ever seen, so do it because you love the browns. Worry about getting paid retroactively
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Yes the browns colors are difficult to make look appealing. There's no doubt about that
Umm ... Maybe if you are Coach Pettine's teenage daughter and you are trying to accessorize your purse.
They are great football colors.

I did like the white facemasks though.

Zombo
Zombo said:
Umm ... Maybe if you are Coach Pettine's teenage daughter and you are trying to accessorize your purse.
They are great football colors.

I did like the white facemasks though.

Zombo
They make great Tootsie Roll wrappers too.

The mere fact that this subject is always brought up could only mean there exists much discontent from Browns fans over the uniform. As if other teams fans are whining about their uniforms.
Black is the answer. Imagine black and brown.
A black and brown uniform would be badass. Except for some very discrete trim, lose the orange, otherwise, black and orange looks Holloween..see the bengals.
I even heard Brian Brennan refer to his former team as "pumpkin heads"...in an affectionate way of course.
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Been gone from the forum for a few days. Icedawg got exposed and banned? That makes sense, I guess. Can't say I'm sorry to see him go. If I remember correctly, he posted a few times arguing with me in a way that didn't make much sense.
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Merchandising sales are a reflection of how popular teams are.....and popularity is determined by how much winning a team does.
In the Browns case their merchandising sales are not a reflection of their color scheme.....but of their shitty record over many years now.
Ya Follow?
If the Browns win a couple Super Bowls in a row, they will sell more shit than anyone else.
The Cowboys, Raiders & Redskins say hello.. All 3 very popular teams that don't win and sell a ton of merchandise..
The Cowboys, Raiders & Redskins say hello.. All 3 very popular teams that don't win and sell a ton of merchandise..
Cowboys have won 5 Super Bowls and been in 8. Redskins have won 3 and been in 5. Same with Raiders. (and Raiders sell gear to gangs).
Maybe we should just start having the crips and bloods go to liking Orange and Brown.
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Zombo said:
Umm ... Maybe if you are Coach Pettine's teenage daughter and you are trying to accessorize your purse.
They are great football colors.

I did like the white facemasks though.

Zombo
They make great Tootsie Roll wrappers too.

The mere fact that this subject is always brought up could only mean there exists much discontent from Browns fans over the uniform. As if other teams fans are whining about their uniforms.
Black is the answer. Imagine black and brown.
A black and brown uniform would be badass. Except for some very discrete trim, lose the orange, otherwise, black and orange looks Holloween..see the bengals.
I even heard Brian Brennan refer to his former team as "pumpkin heads"...in an affectionate way of course.
They make great Tootsie Roll wrappers too.

LOL.. now there's a logo to work with... can you make it look meaner?
Icedawg got exposed and banned? That makes sense, I guess. Can't say I'm sorry to see him go. If I remember correctly, he posted a few times arguing with me in a way that didn't make much sense.
Are you sure he was to blame?

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Hahahaha, I'm not sure at all.

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You have enough spare time to hang around the browns board all day. And you're apparently the greatest designer the world has ever seen, so do it because you love the browns. Worry about getting paid retroactively
You have enough spare time to hang around the browns board all day. And you're apparently the greatest designer the world has ever seen, so do it because you love the browns. Worry about getting paid retroactively
wow you are delusional. i've never said any of those things.
first off, the idea of an elf/brownie logo to be used for a football team's identity is plain gay. i get the paul brown i.e. 'brownies' idea but it looks disneyesque and was done in era were i'm sure someone thought it was cute. this isn't wendy from wendy's. it just doesn't work.
if you want a logo that would be used for merchandising (not for the helmet) then someone should come up with an idea that is iconic for cleveland. half the stuff i have (hats jerseys etc.) just have a simple B embroidered on it or 'the cleveland browns' in script or a dog with a helmet on it..
if the FO was serious about having a logo done they should let the fans decide and send in their ideas like the ravens did when modell took the browns to baltimore. and that too is an abomination.
there is a lot of talented artists in cleveland. i've outsourced plenty of work to shops there, because i believe in supporting my home state and the hometown of my favorite team(s).
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