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Football Gameplan's 2014 NFL Draft Prospect Rankings - QBs

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  • jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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    Enjoyed the video thanks, good info there. I am a bit surprised by how high you rank Matthews.................

  • gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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    You also seem to be going against the grain with ranking Bortles as a third round pick?

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    Interesting. A few comments:

    You said you saw Bridgewater as almost as good as Andrew Luck. You may be the only person to hold that opinion.

    The Johnny Manziel comparison to Colin Kaepernick is very interesting....and perhaps astute. I have not heard anyone else make that comparison....but thinking about it, I think it works.

    Having Jeff Matthews of Cornell as an early second rounder is also quite at variance with most others...who have him 7th round/UFA rated. I don't know if I think he should be taken as high as you say, but I think you are good on having him a bit higher than most others do.

    You also obviously vary with most others on Bortles, some of whom have him going as high as #1 overall. Some see him as a Ben Roethlisberger type, which would be good. I personally don't know if he could be that....or if he is a 3rd rounder like you say.

    Your comparison of Tajh Boyd to David Garrad or Jeff Blake is faint praise....but perhaps accurate.

    And your comparison of Mettenberger to Brandon Weeden could be damning praise.

    Also, some say that AJ McCarron could be the next Bart Starr type QB: low rated (Starr was a 17th round pick), game manager type....but a winner.

    I also noted that you seemed to doing scouting for the CFL as well as the NFL....suggesting that a few people should seek employment up there. Is that really their best option...for the likes of Boyd and others?

    On the small college front that you spend some time on. I guess you are looking for the next Kurt Warner/Tony Romo. They could be in there.

    What I do note is that some of those small college QBs are what I would call "Tweeners". Guys who are 6'2" in stature, but who, with their talent and a 6'4-6'5 frame would be much higher rated. (and who would have probably gone to larger profile schools.)

    Fair to say?

  • H Hunt Daddy wrote on last edited by
    #8

    Can't wait to check this out when I get off work. You always have good stuff.

  • Outstanding analysis.

    E EmDiggy wrote on last edited by
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    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Outstanding analysis.

    Thanks DHB!

    @calfoxwc said:

    Terrific stuff as always, Dig.

    Prreciate that Buddy!

    @jcam222 said:

    Enjoyed the video thanks, good info there. I am a bit surprised by how high you rank Matthews.................

    Thanks Jcam! I've seen a lot of Mathews both on film and in person & I must say…he's been very impressive each and every time

    @gftchris said:

    You also seem to be going against the grain with ranking Bortles as a third round pick?

    I really wish he could've stayed that extra year…I get the 'strike while the iron is hot' but I think another year of 'cleaner' play would've served him well

    @the-gipper said:

    Interesting. A few comments:

    You said you saw Bridgewater as almost as good as Andrew Luck. You may be the only person to hold that opinion.

    He's as polished & has minimal holes in his game as did Luck coming out

    The Johnny Manziel comparison to Colin Kaepernick is very interesting....and perhaps astute. I have not heard anyone else make that comparison....but thinking about it, I think it works.

    Both guys have that 'Frenetic'-like pace in the pocket…almost like every play is 3rd down, goal to go, down by 4

    Having Jeff Matthews of Cornell as an early second rounder is also quite at variance with most others...who have him 7th round/UFA rated. I don't know if I think he should be taken as high as you say, but I think you are good on having him a bit higher than most others do.

    BIG fan of his game…He was also the best QB at the Shrine Game all week long, but the mass media wanted to hype Garoppolo which was bizarre to me

    You also obviously vary with most others on Bortles, some of whom have him going as high as #1 overall. Some see him as a Ben Roethlisberger type, which would be good. I personally don't know if he could be that....or if he is a 3rd rounder like you say.

    IMHO, there's still a lot of questions about his game…Despite his numbers, he's wildly inconsistent

    Your comparison of Tajh Boyd to David Garrad or Jeff Blake is faint praise....but perhaps accurate.

    I wonder how much better would he do outside of Dabu Swinney running him like a fullback 15 times a game

    And your comparison of Mettenberger to Brandon Weeden could be damning praise.

    Lol! Not much needs to be said there huh?

    Also, some say that AJ McCarron could be the next Bart Starr type QB: low rated (Starr was a 17th round pick), game manager type....but a winner.

    I also noted that you seemed to doing scouting for the CFL as well as the NFL....suggesting that a few people should seek employment up there. Is that really their best option...for the likes of Boyd and others?

    They may not think it's the best option..but if the goal is to play ball & get paid, then they may have to revisit that. I wish the salaries were just a little bit more comparable

    On the small college front that you spend some time on. I guess you are looking for the next Kurt Warner/Tony Romo. They could be in there.

    What I do note is that some of those small college QBs are what I would call "Tweeners". Guys who are 6'2" in stature, but who, with their talent and a 6'4-6'5 frame would be much higher rated. (and who would have probably gone to larger profile schools.)

    Fair to say?

    That's fair and a lot of times, guys like these are late bloomers coming out of High School

    @hunt-daddy said:

    Can't wait to check this out when I get off work. You always have good stuff.

    Thanks HD!

  • What makes you think we need a QB? 😉

    E EmDiggy wrote on last edited by
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    @gftchris said:

    What makes you think we need a QB? 😉

    LOL! Just a hunch 😉

  • ClevelandFanForLifeC ClevelandFanForLife wrote on last edited by
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    Good analysis. I like that you put your projected round grade in there as well. Good stuff.

  • Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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    Enjoyed your analysis. Like the over hyped WRs a couple years ago, I feel there are many over-rated QBs in this draft. Nice to see someone look at them more logically. Now let's wait & see who picks 'em & WHERE they pick 'em. I still want to take a flyer on Johnny early & grab another QB later, in the 4th & 5th round range.

    Mike

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #13

    Great give and take Em.

    Now, are we also going to see your rankings on other positions? E.g. I say the Browns have a desperate need for ILB. Lets see what you come up with there.

  • Great give and take Em.

    Now, are we also going to see your rankings on other positions? E.g. I say the Browns have a desperate need for ILB. Lets see what you come up with there.

    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    Great give and take Em.

    Now, are we also going to see your rankings on other positions? E.g. I say the Browns have a desperate need for ILB. Lets see what you come up with there.

    I was thinking OG.

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    Wide receiver. Watkins or Lee or Beckham?

  • Wide receiver. Watkins or Lee or Beckham?

    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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    @calfoxwc said:

    Wide receiver. Watkins or Lee or Beckham?

    I would be very happy with Beckham.

  • gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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    I'd also be interested to hear your take on Hoyer, and where you see him ranking against those QBs, and in the league in general.