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  • bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
    #28

    I value Mark Sanchez very low. If his contract is big I value him at nothing.

  • @tour2ma said:

    ummmm... no...

    You waited too long. Last year, before I got a glimpse of Hoyer, I would have at least discussed trading a pick, but not now...

    EDIT: I wonder what, if anything, Pete Carroll would give for him...

    I have wondered the same. However, with the trade talks for Schaub, I thought maybe Sanchez could be a player if Schaub went to Oakland.

    He has so much potential, but his head doesn't. I think he could be a top 15 in a smaller market. JMO

    I don't want him in NY. That much I know.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
    #29

    Jets are a "small market team"??? WTF, Gip?

    @hawk said:

    I have wondered the same. However, with the trade talks for Schaub, I thought maybe Sanchez could be a player if Schaub went to Oakland.

    He has so much potential, but his head doesn't. I think he could be a top 15 in a smaller market. JMO

    I don't want him in NY. That much I know.

    What's your logic? Does "small market" in your mind mean "no night life"?

    If that's your angle, then sorry, but a QB with a weak work ethic is going to find distractions wherever he lands because he simply does not love the game enough and/or have the burning desire to excel that the great ones have.

  • H hawk wrote on last edited by
    #30

    It must be that time of year again.

    First, I love the draft for the Browns thus far. I would have really liked to, given the right opportunity, welcomed Danny Shelton to Jet nation. They also took the approach I was hoping the Jets would pursue in free agency, a versatile lineman.

    Anyway, as you may be aware, the Jets took yet another Defensive Lineman at #6, and talks have surfaced that Mohammed Wilkerson may be traded, which leads me to posting this afternoon.

    What would he be worth? Unlike my last thought I sought your opinion on, your head coach has to be salivating at the thought of acquiring him, and of course, Jet nation would want a trade partner to back up the truck for him, so if I could get alternative opinions from the garbage I have to endure on my home boards, I would be thankful.

  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
    #31

    What would Wilkerson be worth? In terms of a personnel trade or for straight up picks?

    IF its picks, Jets might get greedy and ask for a future first. Not a terrible idea considering that Mo is a heck of a player. Or they could settle and most likely get a high 2nd coupled with a 3rd/4th and beyond.

  • What would Wilkerson be worth? In terms of a personnel trade or for straight up picks?

    IF its picks, Jets might get greedy and ask for a future first. Not a terrible idea considering that Mo is a heck of a player. Or they could settle and most likely get a high 2nd coupled with a 3rd/4th and beyond.

    H hawk wrote on last edited by
    #32

    @tiamat63 said:

    What would Wilkerson be worth? In terms of a personnel trade or for straight up picks?

    IF its picks, Jets might get greedy and ask for a future first. Not a terrible idea considering that Mo is a heck of a player. Or they could settle and most likely get a high 2nd coupled with a 3rd/4th and beyond.

    As a Jet fan, and Mo being our best player, of course I want as much compensation as possible.

    How would your fan base react if the Browns offered #43, Josh Gordon, and conditional 2016? Josh Gordon has very little value to the Browns, and the Jets are finally in a position that they do not "need" a WR, so they could let him sit. If Gordon doesn't screw up again, the conditional pick is say a 5th, and if he does screw up a second?

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    Do we need Wilkerson at this point? I wouldn't give any future draft picks, but maybe 1-2 of our surplus lineman and a late round pick?

  • @tiamat63 said:

    What would Wilkerson be worth? In terms of a personnel trade or for straight up picks?

    IF its picks, Jets might get greedy and ask for a future first. Not a terrible idea considering that Mo is a heck of a player. Or they could settle and most likely get a high 2nd coupled with a 3rd/4th and beyond.

    As a Jet fan, and Mo being our best player, of course I want as much compensation as possible.

    How would your fan base react if the Browns offered #43, Josh Gordon, and conditional 2016? Josh Gordon has very little value to the Browns, and the Jets are finally in a position that they do not "need" a WR, so they could let him sit. If Gordon doesn't screw up again, the conditional pick is say a 5th, and if he does screw up a second?

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
    #34

    @hawk said:

    As a Jet fan, and Mo being our best player, of course I want as much compensation as possible.

    How would your fan base react if the Browns offered #43, Josh Gordon, and conditional 2016? Josh Gordon has very little value to the Browns, and the Jets are finally in a position that they do not "need" a WR, so they could let him sit. If Gordon doesn't screw up again, the conditional pick is say a 5th, and if he does screw up a second?

    I don't think we really need Wilkerson at this point.

    Further, the Jets are supposedly asking for multiple firsts: http://www.ganggreennation.com/2015/5/1/8530461/report-new-york-jets-want-multiple-first-rounders-for-muhammad

    He's going to get a mega-deal, plus we have a (possibly) stout defensive front already. Just wouldn't make any sense whatsoever.

  • R RoyceRolls wrote on last edited by
    #35

    I'd trade 2 2nd rd picks for Wilkerson

  • @tiamat63 said:

    What would Wilkerson be worth? In terms of a personnel trade or for straight up picks?

    IF its picks, Jets might get greedy and ask for a future first. Not a terrible idea considering that Mo is a heck of a player. Or they could settle and most likely get a high 2nd coupled with a 3rd/4th and beyond.

    As a Jet fan, and Mo being our best player, of course I want as much compensation as possible.

    How would your fan base react if the Browns offered #43, Josh Gordon, and conditional 2016? Josh Gordon has very little value to the Browns, and the Jets are finally in a position that they do not "need" a WR, so they could let him sit. If Gordon doesn't screw up again, the conditional pick is say a 5th, and if he does screw up a second?

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
    #36

    @hawk said:

    As a Jet fan, and Mo being our best player, of course I want as much compensation as possible.

    How would your fan base react if the Browns offered #43, Josh Gordon, and conditional 2016? Josh Gordon has very little value to the Browns, and the Jets are finally in a position that they do not "need" a WR, so they could let him sit. If Gordon doesn't screw up again, the conditional pick is say a 5th, and if he does screw up a second?

    From the perspective of someone who loves defense, I'd jump at the chance because at least with Mo, we have a player that would be on the field (unlike Gordon)

    However I don't believe it necessary to throw additional high picks + conditional picks at a guy who is going to command one of the top interior Dline contracts in the league very soon. Its just not good value for the Browns seeing as how we have Shelton and will most likely add OLB and DE in this draft.

  • hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
    #37

    We already have Taylor and Shelton, so there's not a big need to add yet another stud DL. The Browns have plenty of D-Line depth, so I doubt we'd trade multiple picks.

    What the Browns really need is a stud WR that can manage to stay off the drug suspension list.

  • @hawk said:

    As a Jet fan, and Mo being our best player, of course I want as much compensation as possible.

    How would your fan base react if the Browns offered #43, Josh Gordon, and conditional 2016? Josh Gordon has very little value to the Browns, and the Jets are finally in a position that they do not "need" a WR, so they could let him sit. If Gordon doesn't screw up again, the conditional pick is say a 5th, and if he does screw up a second?

    I don't think we really need Wilkerson at this point.

    Further, the Jets are supposedly asking for multiple firsts: http://www.ganggreennation.com/2015/5/1/8530461/report-new-york-jets-want-multiple-first-rounders-for-muhammad

    He's going to get a mega-deal, plus we have a (possibly) stout defensive front already. Just wouldn't make any sense whatsoever.

    H hawk wrote on last edited by
    #38

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I don't think we really need Wilkerson at this point.

    Further, the Jets are supposedly asking for multiple firsts: http://www.ganggreennation.com/2015/5/1/8530461/report-new-york-jets-want-multiple-first-rounders-for-muhammad

    He's going to get a mega-deal, plus we have a (possibly) stout defensive front already. Just wouldn't make any sense whatsoever.

    Articles like this is why I came here to ask what he is worth. I am a Jets fan, and I don't even think he is worth 2 1's. The only qualifier would be where the 1's project, and at this point, we would have to be looking at a 2nd this year, and a 1 next. (Assuming there is any validity to the article.)

  • We already have Taylor and Shelton, so there's not a big need to add yet another stud DL. The Browns have plenty of D-Line depth, so I doubt we'd trade multiple picks.

    What the Browns really need is a stud WR that can manage to stay off the drug suspension list.

    H hawk wrote on last edited by
    #39

    @hoorta said:

    We already have Taylor and Shelton, so there's not a big need to add yet another stud DL. The Browns have plenty of D-Line depth, so I doubt we'd trade multiple picks.

    What the Browns really need is a stud WR that can manage to stay off the drug suspension list.

    With all due respect, there is a difference with what Mohammed Wilkerson Does and what a Nose Tackle does.

  • @hawk said:

    As a Jet fan, and Mo being our best player, of course I want as much compensation as possible.

    How would your fan base react if the Browns offered #43, Josh Gordon, and conditional 2016? Josh Gordon has very little value to the Browns, and the Jets are finally in a position that they do not "need" a WR, so they could let him sit. If Gordon doesn't screw up again, the conditional pick is say a 5th, and if he does screw up a second?

    From the perspective of someone who loves defense, I'd jump at the chance because at least with Mo, we have a player that would be on the field (unlike Gordon)

    However I don't believe it necessary to throw additional high picks + conditional picks at a guy who is going to command one of the top interior Dline contracts in the league very soon. Its just not good value for the Browns seeing as how we have Shelton and will most likely add OLB and DE in this draft.

    H hawk wrote on last edited by
    #40

    @tiamat63 said:

    From the perspective of someone who loves defense, I'd jump at the chance because at least with Mo, we have a player that would be on the field (unlike Gordon)

    However I don't believe it necessary to throw additional high picks + conditional picks at a guy who is going to command one of the top interior Dline contracts in the league very soon. Its just not good value for the Browns seeing as how we have Shelton and will most likely add OLB and DE in this draft.

    Thank you for the response. He is definitely demand a large contract, and I think it is part of the reason they took Williams. I am excited to watch it play out though.

  • I'd trade 2 2nd rd picks for Wilkerson

    H hawk wrote on last edited by
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    @roycerolls said:

    I'd trade 2 2nd rd picks for Wilkerson

    This is kind of what I am expecting.

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
    #42

    The addition of Wilkerson would make our D line immediately the best in the league. It would be scary. Giving up one of our DL guys and a 2nd rounder wouldn't hurt. Not multiple 1sts though, that's absurd. I'd rather stick with what we have and continue to develop our depth.

  • The addition of Wilkerson would make our D line immediately the best in the league. It would be scary. Giving up one of our DL guys and a 2nd rounder wouldn't hurt. Not multiple 1sts though, that's absurd. I'd rather stick with what we have and continue to develop our depth.

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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    @clevfan4life said:

    The addition of Wilkerson would make our D line immediately the best in the league. It would be scary. Giving up one of our DL guys and a 2nd rounder wouldn't hurt. Not multiple 1sts though, that's absurd. I'd rather stick with what we have and continue to develop our depth.

    I don't see why the Jets would trade Wilkerson for another DL. The point is that they don't need DL.

    Maccagnan is proving to be a fun GM. I like his style.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    The addition of Wilkerson would make our D line immediately the best in the league. It would be scary. Giving up one of our DL guys and a 2nd rounder wouldn't hurt. Not multiple 1sts though, that's absurd. I'd rather stick with what we have and continue to develop our depth.

    I don't see why the Jets would trade Wilkerson for another DL. The point is that they don't need DL.

    Maccagnan is proving to be a fun GM. I like his style.

    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I don't see why the Jets would trade Wilkerson for another DL. The point is that they don't need DL.

    Maccagnan is proving to be a fun GM. I like his style.

    what's so fun that he did? pick williams when he dropped to them?

    hell, that's a no-brainer.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
    #45

    Might have something to do with his FA activity, mik...

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I don't see why the Jets would trade Wilkerson for another DL. The point is that they don't need DL.

    Maccagnan is proving to be a fun GM. I like his style.

    what's so fun that he did? pick williams when he dropped to them?

    hell, that's a no-brainer.

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
    #46

    @miktoxic said:

    what's so fun that he did? pick williams when he dropped to them?

    hell, that's a no-brainer.

    Brought back Revis and Cromartie. Signed Skrine. Signed James Carpenter. Resigned Colon. Resigned Harris. Traded for Marshall. Signed CB and OL help. Brought in Fitzpatrick to hold the fort down until next season (which should be a solid crop of QB's).

    Went into this draft needing an edge rusher, walked away with the top DE prospect. While not an edge rusher, Willams' addition solidifies the Jets DL as one of the top 3 in the league.

  • @hoorta said:

    We already have Taylor and Shelton, so there's not a big need to add yet another stud DL. The Browns have plenty of D-Line depth, so I doubt we'd trade multiple picks.

    What the Browns really need is a stud WR that can manage to stay off the drug suspension list.

    With all due respect, there is a difference with what Mohammed Wilkerson Does and what a Nose Tackle does.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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    @hawk said:

    With all due respect, there is a difference with what Mohammed Wilkerson Does and what a Nose Tackle does.

    I know that, and MHO is we don't need him- at the price of any picks.