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  • thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
    #20

    Edelman... no thanks. He's a product of Belichick/Brady

    Shields... re-signed in GB

    Schaub... I had to really think about this one before weighing in, but I'd be happy if he signed in Cleveland. He has been a starter 7 years in the NFL and racked up 4,000 yds 3 times, a career 130 - 84 TD-INT ratio, and solid passer ratings in 6 of those 7 years. Last year he struggled, but at 31 years old he's not done and he should have something left to offer.

    I wouldn't promise Schaub a starting job b/c I would still want him to beat out Hoyer in camp, but I'd love to have that security to get rid of Weeden and Campbell. Plus, this is Hoyer's last year under contract so if he proves to be worthless, we would have something else there AND if he proves to be the future QB, we have a good veteran backup and security to draft somebody who we can develop. Having said all that, I would not only offer Schaub a contract, but I would also draft one of those 1st round QBs. Imagine Schaub/Hoyer/Bortles... That would give us 2-3 years to develop our rookie, who has a very high ceiling... The other option is to keep Schaub/Hoyer this year, and draft your guy next year, but ANY team that is looking into "next year's draft" for their QB is not looking to win any time soon...

  • tml1138T tml1138 wrote on last edited by
    #21

    http://nfl.si.com/2014/03/11/matt-schaub-cleveland-browns-free-agency/

    Did a morning search on Browns news and found this, much to my dismay. I just see it as another Jake Delhomme situation. Meh!

  • http://nfl.si.com/2014/03/11/matt-schaub-cleveland-browns-free-agency/

    Did a morning search on Browns news and found this, much to my dismay. I just see it as another Jake Delhomme situation. Meh!

    Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
    #22

    @tml1138 said:

    http://nfl.si.com/2014/03/11/matt-schaub-cleveland-browns-free-agency/

    Did a morning search on Browns news and found this, much to my dismay. I just see it as another Jake Delhomme situation. Meh!

    Ya, it feels like Delhommo, he's 34 and coming off a terrible decline year.

    But ... he's a two time Pro Bowler with experience in Shanny's offense.

    He would compete with Hoyer to start (I think Hoyer beats him out) ... which means we would roll the dice on #4 QB, but instead grab a Sammy Watkins and hanve a veteran passer throwing to Watkins, Gordon, Cameron. That doesn't sound bad. The QB will come ... let's get competitive again for chrissakes.

    Zombo

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
    #23

    Schaub is a “serious possibility” for the Browns

    Posted by Mike Florio on March 11, 2014, 8:32 AM EDT
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    The Factory of Sadness seems to be planning another stellar product line for 2014; perhaps they’ll dub it the “Pick 6.”

    With quarterback a clear need and new offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan having a prior relationship with Texans quarterback Matt Schaub, Schaub could become the next quarterback to join the Browns.

    Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com reports that Schaub is a “serious possibility” for the Browns.

    Schaub had some strong years with Shanahan, but based on a horrible 2013 season Schaub seems to be broken beyond repair. For that reason, he wouldn’t be handed the job in Cleveland. He’d have to compete with Brian Hoyer, who’s recovering from a torn ACL.

    Currently the property of the Texans, Schaub isn’t available unless and until he’s released. With a cap number north of $14 million, that’s likely to happen, barring a pay cut so big that Ike Taylor would say, “Damn, that guy took a big pay cut.”

    The Texans could create $10 million in cap space (as of June 1) by cutting Schaub with the post-June 1 designation. The team would carry $3.5 million in dead money for 2014 before absorbing a $7 million cap charge in 2015.

    It’s unclear whether acquiring Schaub would take the Browns out of play for a first-round quarterback. Much of it depends on how much they pay Schaub. The less he gets, the more likely that the Browns are hoping to throw other teams off the scent of the possibility that the team will use the No. 4 pick in round one on a quarterback.

  • jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
    #24

    How many times can the Browns bring in past their prime QB's before they learn the lesson? If Schaub is brought in and is made the starter we might as well start looking at 2015 top prospects.

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #25

    Schaub comes up here for the same reason that Cousins and Grossman do: because he has a history, somewhat successful with the Shanahan's. I assume that includes Kyle.

    I guess it could happen....if the Browns brass decides that this in NOT the year that a franchise QB can be obtained in the draft.

    Maybe the Browns really do think all these QBs in the draft are overrated, and that a veteran like Schaub could be a better answer for now....and to wait for that QB while the rest of the team is built up.

  • Why would the pats let edleman go?

    B Babernakle wrote on last edited by
    #26

    @vagitron said:

    Why would the pats let edleman go?

    They let welker go

  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
    #27

    this is all bullshit.

  • this is all bullshit.

    Mr. Make-BelieveM Mr. Make-Believe wrote on last edited by Mr. Make-Believe
    #28

    @miktoxic said:

    this is all bullshit.

    Hahaha... You should post this response in every thread.

    I'm not a Schaub guy either. But if Weeden is out and Schaub is in, it MAY be a marginal improvement?

  • @miktoxic said:

    this is all bullshit.

    Hahaha... You should post this response in every thread.

    I'm not a Schaub guy either. But if Weeden is out and Schaub is in, it MAY be a marginal improvement?

    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by miktoxic
    #29

    @mr.-make-believe said:

    Hahaha... You should post this response in every thread.

    I'm not a Schaub guy either. But if Weeden is out and Schaub is in, it MAY be a marginal improvement?

    it would be a big step up. i think he makes reads pretty well. it's just the dumb throw gene that weeden and schaub share that is impossible to shake. how many QBs are we going to have on our roster? this means we'd cut campbell who we still owe money too correct? we know weeden is still going to get paid from us.

    hoyer schaub weeden and a third rounder like fales? or don't pick a QB at all?

    now i'm really fucking confused.....

    bullshit!

  • darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by
    #30

    I would rather get Josh McCown for a year ....have him compete with Hoyer and a drafted QB if we get one .....

  • RemarkerR Remarker wrote on last edited by
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    Regardless of what seems the plan, I'm betting Pettine and Farmer know exactly what they will do at QB.

  • Regardless of what seems the plan, I'm betting Pettine and Farmer know exactly what they will do at QB.

    tml1138T tml1138 wrote on last edited by
    #32

    @remarker said:

    Regardless of what seems the plan, I'm betting Pettine and Farmer know exactly what they will do at QB.

    Farmer has said as much already.

    If they do pick up Schaub, then yeah I'm hoping that's a sign they know they don't want a QB from this year's draft. Perhaps with some of the curious (but not necessarily bad IMO) FA signings popping up in the last day or so, this all points to trading up in the draft to get a choice pick in 2015 for a QB?

  • RemarkerR Remarker wrote on last edited by
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    Re: "curious' signings

    Speed, speed, speed!

  • @remarker said:

    Regardless of what seems the plan, I'm betting Pettine and Farmer know exactly what they will do at QB.

    Farmer has said as much already.

    If they do pick up Schaub, then yeah I'm hoping that's a sign they know they don't want a QB from this year's draft. Perhaps with some of the curious (but not necessarily bad IMO) FA signings popping up in the last day or so, this all points to trading up in the draft to get a choice pick in 2015 for a QB?

    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
    #34

    @tml1138 said:

    Farmer has said as much already.

    If they do pick up Schaub, then yeah I'm hoping that's a sign they know they don't want a QB from this year's draft. Perhaps with some of the curious (but not necessarily bad IMO) FA signings popping up in the last day or so, this all points to trading up in the draft to get a choice pick in 2015 for a QB?

    i wouldn't mind that at all. but pettine and farmer also know the game when it comes to the draft......blowin smoke.

    BUT if we do sign schaub, it's (IMO) a sign they're going to cut weeds and campbell and draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round. i really doubt they'd sign shaub and have hoyer and pick a QB @ 4 in this draft.

  • Re: "curious' signings

    Speed, speed, speed!

    tml1138T tml1138 wrote on last edited by
    #35

    @remarker said:

    Re: "curious' signings

    Speed, speed, speed!

    Based on some opinions (but not mine) that I've read here. Particularly the chase after Hawkins. I guess they thought the Browns would find everybody they needed in the draft.

  • RemarkerR Remarker wrote on last edited by
    #36

    Assuming Hoyer is the #1 QB, having experience for competing and NOT losing games (in the event of an injury) is imperative. Newb/s will need a season to season.

  • @tml1138 said:

    Farmer has said as much already.

    If they do pick up Schaub, then yeah I'm hoping that's a sign they know they don't want a QB from this year's draft. Perhaps with some of the curious (but not necessarily bad IMO) FA signings popping up in the last day or so, this all points to trading up in the draft to get a choice pick in 2015 for a QB?

    i wouldn't mind that at all. but pettine and farmer also know the game when it comes to the draft......blowin smoke.

    BUT if we do sign schaub, it's (IMO) a sign they're going to cut weeds and campbell and draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round. i really doubt they'd sign shaub and have hoyer and pick a QB @ 4 in this draft.

    tml1138T tml1138 wrote on last edited by
    #37

    @miktoxic said:

    i wouldn't mind that at all. but pettine and farmer also know the game when it comes to the draft......blowin smoke.

    BUT if we do sign schaub, it's (IMO) a sign they're going to cut weeds and campbell and draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round. i really doubt they'd sign shaub and have hoyer and pick a QB @ 4 in this draft.

    Me too.

    Argh...57 days....!

  • @tml1138 said:

    Farmer has said as much already.

    If they do pick up Schaub, then yeah I'm hoping that's a sign they know they don't want a QB from this year's draft. Perhaps with some of the curious (but not necessarily bad IMO) FA signings popping up in the last day or so, this all points to trading up in the draft to get a choice pick in 2015 for a QB?

    i wouldn't mind that at all. but pettine and farmer also know the game when it comes to the draft......blowin smoke.

    BUT if we do sign schaub, it's (IMO) a sign they're going to cut weeds and campbell and draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round. i really doubt they'd sign shaub and have hoyer and pick a QB @ 4 in this draft.

    RemarkerR Remarker wrote on last edited by
    #38

    @miktoxic said:

    i wouldn't mind that at all. but pettine and farmer also know the game when it comes to the draft......blowin smoke.

    BUT if we do sign schaub, it's (IMO) a sign they're going to cut weeds and campbell and draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round. i really doubt they'd sign shaub and have hoyer and pick a QB @ 4 in this draft.

    Hahaha, some "blowin' smoke" is a way safe bet.

  • http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1985709-br-sources-say-browns-hot-on-trail-of-edelman-shields-and-schaub?

    If this rumor is true and they do get Schaub this will surely mean we go into 2014/15 with Hoyer/Schaub and a developmental QB in the 3rd to 7th round ...... our 2 first rounders and 2nd rounder will be used elsewhere .....

    And if we get Edelman and Shields the slot receiver and shut down 2nd corner position is done....we can use the early picks in the draft to get Watkins a RB and someone for the right side of the O Line

    The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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    @darren15 said:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1985709-br-sources-say-browns-hot-on-trail-of-edelman-shields-and-schaub?

    hometown

    If this rumor is true and they do get Schaub this will surely mean we go into 2014/15 with Hoyer/Schaub and a developmental QB in the 3rd to 7th round ...... our 2 first rounders and 2nd rounder will be used elsewhere .....

    And if we get Edelman and Shields the slot receiver and shut down 2nd corner position is done....we can use the early picks in the draft to get Watkins a RB and someone for the right side of the O Line

    I'm ok with that. No matter what I want to see Hoyer get his shot. If its because Im a hometown mark so be it.