Kiper
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I would want to trade with the Vikings if they wanted to move up for Bridgewater .... I would take their 1st round and 2nd round pick and a conditional pick next year .....
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do I think they'll trade? only if they bend over again! they get screwed when they trade. so I hope not
do I think they'll trade? only if they bend over again! they get screwed when they trade. so I hope not
This "they" is a new "they" and have no record of either being the screwer or the screwie...
I got some info from a board friend(another board) who pays for insider status....for whatever that's worth...anyway...the rumor is Haslam has said all in on winning this year and the Browns are looking to trade back up in to the top 10...shipping our #26 pick, 2nd, one of the 3rds, and next years #1.
Winning what?
I hope that's insider BS cause it's as stupid as stupid gets.
There are no shortcuts...
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Judging by the comments, we collectively seem to agree that we should be "sellers" more than "buyers" (i.e. either moving back and getting more picks and/or pushing to next year). I don't like hearing the "win-now" concept, because I just want to "improve now" and build something competitive that can go .500, in the division and overall record. That would be a huge step in the right direction for us and this management.
I can't remember the last time we fielded an NFL ready starting line-up, let alone "win" anything. Stability and good decision making and luck make for a winner. For example, any team that has hit on a franchise QB outside of the first round (SF, Seattle, Dallas, NE etc.) has just been lucky. That could have been a Frye or McCoy for us but we've been unlucky for quiet some time (QB's, Winslow, Edwards, Bentley ...) So far this management team has made some good decisions and I hope they stick to it and don't over-reach.
As I said, they really need a QB WR and CB with the first three picks. If they don't like the QB's then maybe it's WR, CB and OG or ILB. Then 4 more picks to get the other missing pieces. Then take some chances in rounds 5-7 and see if something hits.
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Judging by the comments, we collectively seem to agree that we should be "sellers" more than "buyers" (i.e. either moving back and getting more picks and/or pushing to next year). I don't like hearing the "win-now" concept, because I just want to "improve now" and build something competitive that can go .500, in the division and overall record. That would be a huge step in the right direction for us and this management.
I can't remember the last time we fielded an NFL ready starting line-up, let alone "win" anything. Stability and good decision making and luck make for a winner. For example, any team that has hit on a franchise QB outside of the first round (SF, Seattle, Dallas, NE etc.) has just been lucky. That could have been a Frye or McCoy for us but we've been unlucky for quiet some time (QB's, Winslow, Edwards, Bentley ...) So far this management team has made some good decisions and I hope they stick to it and don't over-reach.
As I said, they really need a QB WR and CB with the first three picks. If they don't like the QB's then maybe it's WR, CB and OG or ILB. Then 4 more picks to get the other missing pieces. Then take some chances in rounds 5-7 and see if something hits.
Judging by the comments, we collectively seem to agree that we should be "sellers" more than "buyers" (i.e. either moving back and getting more picks and/or pushing to next year). I don't like hearing the "win-now" concept, because I just want to "improve now" and build something competitive that can go .500, in the division and overall record. That would be a huge step in the right direction for us and this management.
I can't remember the last time we fielded an NFL ready starting line-up, let alone "win" anything. Stability and good decision making and luck make for a winner. For example, any team that has hit on a franchise QB outside of the first round (SF, Seattle, Dallas, NE etc.) has just been lucky. That could have been a Frye or McCoy for us but we've been unlucky for quiet some time (QB's, Winslow, Edwards, Bentley ...) So far this management team has made some good decisions and I hope they stick to it and don't over-reach.
As I said, they really need a QB WR and CB with the first three picks. If they don't like the QB's then maybe it's WR, CB and OG or ILB. Then 4 more picks to get the other missing pieces. Then take some chances in rounds 5-7 and see if something hits.
Well I think we have been building for 15 yrs, time to start winning, I think with 10 picks you can do both, its not like our team is old. As to trading, I think it just depends on how the FO values players. I too thought it might be cool to trade back into the 1st, with say 3 1st round picks if that were possible, but the cost is likely very high. I suspect there may be some movement by the browns, not sure if there will be big movement or not.
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I hope we don't draft a qb until the 3rd round.
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That is my dream scenario. That would give us plenty of ammo to move back up into the top 15 and have two top 15 picksI would want to trade with the Vikings if they wanted to move up for Bridgewater .... I would take their 1st round and 2nd round pick and a conditional pick next year .....
That is my dream scenario. That would give us plenty of ammo to move back up into the top 15 and have two top 15 picks
yours!
i'd pick evans and turn around and pick gilbert. 2 major wholes filled. OT(s), LB, other picks to trade up.
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That is my dream scenario. That would give us plenty of ammo to move back up into the top 15 and have two top 15 picks
yours!
i'd pick evans and turn around and pick gilbert. 2 major wholes filled. OT(s), LB, other picks to trade up.
yours!
i'd pick evans and turn around and pick gilbert. 2 major wholes filled. OT(s), LB, other picks to trade up.
I'd love that. Or Mack/gilbert or mack/evans. The more I watch Mack and the more I contemplate which player will give us the greatest, sustained impact at four I have to say that will be K. Mack. Imagine the kind of defense we could field with a Mack/Gilbert first round. Fuck it gives a raging woody!
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According to Kiper, the Browns, Rams and Falcons will be active in making trades on draft day. The Browns have 7 picks in the first 4 rounds. Well, the Browns have the potential to do this, but they haven't acted like a team in "panic mode" and I hope they don't start acting like one in May. We need 7 quality players from those first 7 picks, with the first three going QB, WR, CB (in some order) and the next 3 going ILB, OG/OT, OG/OC. Then select BPA. Do you think they'll trade and move up?
According to Kiper, the Browns, Rams and Falcons will be active in making trades on draft day. The Browns have 7 picks in the first 4 rounds. Well, the Browns have the potential to do this, but they haven't acted like a team in "panic mode" and I hope they don't start acting like one in May. We need 7 quality players from those first 7 picks, with the first three going QB, WR, CB (in some order) and the next 3 going ILB, OG/OT, OG/OC. Then select BPA. Do you think they'll trade and move up?
I think if the Browns trade they will move down, not up. I'm betting we invest in other positions this year and assets for next years draft to target a QB.
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We can get 7 key young players in the first 4 rounds of the draft. I would suggest we not play too many games and get the missing talent that we need in so many positions including (in no certain order) QB, RB, CB, OG, ILB, WR.
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It is getting closer
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