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  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on
    #8

    How the fuck is spider man derivitive of super man? They both wear red and blue? The powers are nothing alike, the secret identities are nothing alike except that they work at newspapers.How is shield, a spy network anything.like the justice league? There's more than one guy? Same for the legion of super heroes. X men are revolutionary in that theyre the first and thus far only group of super heroes that the public has been totally racist against. Am I missing something or were there routinely people throwing bottles and batteries at the legion? I don't understand where you are getting.these comparisons but I disagree with all of them. You could say the avengers were a rip off of the jla. I could see that, but the xmen? No.

    Marvel did a fantastic job in the sixties of creating characters that resonated with people. They could see themselves as spider man and Cyclops. Not so much with superman. Nobody.can identify with superman. He's just too powerful.

    This shit ain't nothing to me, man.
  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid

    How the fuck is spider man derivitive of super man? They both wear red and blue? The powers are nothing alike, the secret identities are nothing alike except that they work at newspapers.How is shield, a spy network anything.like the justice league? There's more than one guy? Same for the legion of super heroes. X men are revolutionary in that theyre the first and thus far only group of super heroes that the public has been totally racist against. Am I missing something or were there routinely people throwing bottles and batteries at the legion? I don't understand where you are getting.these comparisons but I disagree with all of them. You could say the avengers were a rip off of the jla. I could see that, but the xmen? No.

    Marvel did a fantastic job in the sixties of creating characters that resonated with people. They could see themselves as spider man and Cyclops. Not so much with superman. Nobody.can identify with superman. He's just too powerful.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #9

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    How the fuck is spider man derivitive of super man? They both wear red and blue? The powers are nothing alike, the secret identities are nothing alike except that they work at newspapers.How is shield, a spy network anything.like the justice league? There's more than one guy? Same for the legion of super heroes. X men are revolutionary in that theyre the first and thus far only group of super heroes that the public has been totally racist against. Am I missing something or were there routinely people throwing bottles and batteries at the legion? I don't understand where you are getting.these comparisons but I disagree with all of them. You could say the avengers were a rip off of the jla. I could see that, but the xmen? No.

    Marvel did a fantastic job in the sixties of creating characters that resonated with people. They could see themselves as spider man and Cyclops. Not so much with superman. Nobody.can identify with superman. He's just too powerful.

    Correct me if I am wrong, but from what Steve is saying, the DC guys all preceded the Marvel guys. So, yea, they probably are derivative.

    By your way of thinking one could arguethat the "Heroes" TV show would not have been derivative of the X-Men, because, after all, they were not called "mutants" and some of them had different powers than the X-Men.

    Of course, such an argument would be silly.

    I could say: X-men had no rapid cell regerneration the way Claire Bennet had. None of them were a cheerleader.

    Or: No XMan could fly like Nathan Petrelli.

    Or: No Xman had the adaptive mimicry of other superpowers that Sylar had

    And no Xman could do space time manipulation the way Hiro Nakamura could.

    But, of course, we all know that the Heroes were derivative. But, despite that, some of us may actually like the derivative over the original.

  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on
    #10

    Who had spider powers before spider man?

    If you want to talk about derivitives of superman let's look at dcs own captain marvel/shazam

    If you like heroes more than the x men god help your soul, gip. Heroes was awful.

    This shit ain't nothing to me, man.
  • W Westside Steve wrote on
    #11

    Duh Yes Captain Marvel was a rip off of Superman.

    A hero in colorful tights with a secret identity that has amazing powers, no matter what they might be is probably patterned after the extremely successful Superman model. Live with it. That's not saying that Spiderman sucks it is merely stating a fact.

    As a matter of fact it doesn't mean that any other heroes are better or worse than Superman it just is what it is.

    I also agree with you about Superman's weakness being his seemingly unlimited power. It's hard to get a story to evoke a lot of empathy with a guy that can't be hurt.

    Remember he didn't start that way he could jump high, had heat an x ray vision which came later and was hard to knock on his ass. As the powers evolved he came to be almost invincible. Conversely Batman is just a guy.

    In the movies he seems almost indestructible.

    But none of that gets around the fact that he was the original and he is the one being imitated.

    And yes spider powers are exactly the same as superpowers. BFD.

    Bw3 and Paninis are both extremely successful change of restaurants yet they are still be holding to Frank and Teresa Anchor bar in Buffalo and Primanti Brothers in Pittsburgh.

    No their business model is not exactly the same but it's pretty obvious for the idea sprang from.

    WSS

    www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #12

    Sure, lots of things are derivative....and right, that does not make them bad or second rate.

    Hell, Battlestar Galactica is derivative of Noah and the Ark, no?

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    Sure, lots of things are derivative....and right, that does not make them bad or second rate.

    Hell, Battlestar Galactica is derivative of Noah and the Ark, no?

    W Westside Steve wrote on
    #13

    @the-gipper said:

    Sure, lots of things are derivative....and right, that does not make them bad or second rate.

    Hell, Battlestar Galactica is derivative of Noah and the Ark, no?

    Good point.

    Also after the huge success of James Bond how many dozens of other spy movies came out?

    WSS

    www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on
    #14

    Who'd have thought that Westside Steve is totally derivative of Robert Johnson?

    This shit ain't nothing to me, man.
  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid

    Who'd have thought that Westside Steve is totally derivative of Robert Johnson?

    W Westside Steve wrote on
    #15

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Who'd have thought that Westside Steve is totally derivative of Robert Johnson?

    well, Robert Johnson would be a pretty stupid comparison but I have never claimed to be a seminal figure in rock music.

    I am most certainly a derivative, as I did not invent the genre. Anyway sorry it bums you out so badly. If you think that Stanley independently thought of a super guy with superpowers doing heroic things wearing a pair of tights and had never even heard of Superman great!

    www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on
    #16

    By your logic you'd be derivative of anyone who's ever played a guitar. I don't buy your logic. That's all.

    This shit ain't nothing to me, man.
  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid

    By your logic you'd be derivative of anyone who's ever played a guitar. I don't buy your logic. That's all.

    W Westside Steve wrote on
    #17

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    By your logic you'd be derivative of anyone who's ever played a guitar. I don't buy your logic. That's all.

    Probably true. I started my first band in the 8th grade. We brushed our hair down had two guitars a bass player and drummer. I'd say we were derivative of the Beatles. You would call me an idiot if I said we weren't.

    WSS

    www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #18

    Re derivation: I keep 3 non legal reference books in my library: A Bible, the Complete Works of William Shakespeare, and the Complete Adventures of Sherlock Holmes.

    Every book, movie, TV Show etc. etc. is somehow derived from one of those sources IMO.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #19

    all i know is marvel better step up their game. the last spiderman was doo doo and this new one coming out looks worse. the last wolverine was decent but all the xmen movies have totally blown.

    all comic book movies are getting tiresome. i like man of steel, but really how many remakes of an original are these guys going to do?

    i'd rather see an animated adult version of a graphic novel where people get obliterated as they should by these super beings. enough of this family/children safe versions. i mean the marionettes in team america blasted more caps in people asses than these guys who if they take their sunglasses off would turn you into a bucket of glop.

    and if you're gonna do another xmen movie can we see some more of the baddest ass character they had: colossus?

    btw stan lee. just cuz you founded marvel doesn't mean you have to appear in a cameo in every friggin movie.

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  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on
    #20

    All I.kept thinking about watching man of steel was "who's going to pay for all this.stuff superman keeps.wrecking?"

    This shit ain't nothing to me, man.
  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    all i know is marvel better step up their game. the last spiderman was doo doo and this new one coming out looks worse. the last wolverine was decent but all the xmen movies have totally blown.

    all comic book movies are getting tiresome. i like man of steel, but really how many remakes of an original are these guys going to do?

    i'd rather see an animated adult version of a graphic novel where people get obliterated as they should by these super beings. enough of this family/children safe versions. i mean the marionettes in team america blasted more caps in people asses than these guys who if they take their sunglasses off would turn you into a bucket of glop.

    and if you're gonna do another xmen movie can we see some more of the baddest ass character they had: colossus?

    btw stan lee. just cuz you founded marvel doesn't mean you have to appear in a cameo in every friggin movie.

    Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on
    #21

    @miktoxic said:

    all i know is marvel better step up their game. the last spiderman was doo doo and this new one coming out looks worse. the last wolverine was decent but all the xmen movies have totally blown.

    all comic book movies are getting tiresome. i like man of steel, but really how many remakes of an original are these guys going to do?

    i'd rather see an animated adult version of a graphic novel where people get obliterated as they should by these super beings. enough of this family/children safe versions. i mean the marionettes in team america blasted more caps in people asses than these guys who if they take their sunglasses off would turn you into a bucket of glop.

    and if you're gonna do another xmen movie can we see some more of the baddest ass character they had: colossus?

    btw stan lee. just cuz you founded marvel doesn't mean you have to appear in a cameo in every friggin movie.

    Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg are making a show on the comic series "Preacher" to air on AMC. Pretty excited about that.
  • Flyin JF Flyin J

    @miktoxic said:

    all i know is marvel better step up their game. the last spiderman was doo doo and this new one coming out looks worse. the last wolverine was decent but all the xmen movies have totally blown.

    all comic book movies are getting tiresome. i like man of steel, but really how many remakes of an original are these guys going to do?

    i'd rather see an animated adult version of a graphic novel where people get obliterated as they should by these super beings. enough of this family/children safe versions. i mean the marionettes in team america blasted more caps in people asses than these guys who if they take their sunglasses off would turn you into a bucket of glop.

    and if you're gonna do another xmen movie can we see some more of the baddest ass character they had: colossus?

    btw stan lee. just cuz you founded marvel doesn't mean you have to appear in a cameo in every friggin movie.

    Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg are making a show on the comic series "Preacher" to air on AMC. Pretty excited about that.
    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #22

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg are making a show on the comic series "Preacher" to air on AMC. Pretty excited about that.

    Nothing Seth Rogen ever does would ever get me excited. Quite the opposite.

  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on
    #23

    Rogan and goldberg are making preacher? It will be awful and preacher was great

    This shit ain't nothing to me, man.
  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #24

    didn't know preacher was a comedy?

    i think i perused a couple of issues years back and thought it was pretty dark.

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  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on
    #25

    I have the whole set and I'd.say it could be called a comedy although there's plenty of dark heavy material. It's kind of a sci fi comedy western love story with Irish.vampires

    This shit ain't nothing to me, man.
  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on
    #26

    Y the last man would be a more compelling tv show

    Or transmetropolitan which is sort of like hunter s. Thompson in the future

    This shit ain't nothing to me, man.
  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #27

    not an avid comic book or graphic novel reader or collector BUT i do appreciate the artwork and the writing/creativeness.

    my friend turned me on to sandman years ago and although i really didn't understand it (kinda like reading weave world by clive barker) it was very compelling. heard they are going to try and do something with that in the near future.

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