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  • runyon27R runyon27 wrote on last edited by
    #61

    And since you get to rollover cap space even having on yr with crazy payout makes it suspect that the Browns don't match. I suppose its possible but if Haslam wants to keep him I cant see how Jags can make it impossible to match.

  • And since you get to rollover cap space even having on yr with crazy payout makes it suspect that the Browns don't match. I suppose its possible but if Haslam wants to keep him I cant see how Jags can make it impossible to match.

    CLEinCHIC CLEinCHI wrote on last edited by
    #62

    @runyon27 said:

    And since you get to rollover cap space even having on yr with crazy payout makes it suspect that the Browns don't match. I suppose its possible but if Haslam wants to keep him I cant see how Jags can make it impossible to match.

    it isn't about making it impossible to match, just uncomfortable enough for the Browns to pass.

  • @runyon27 said:

    And since you get to rollover cap space even having on yr with crazy payout makes it suspect that the Browns don't match. I suppose its possible but if Haslam wants to keep him I cant see how Jags can make it impossible to match.

    it isn't about making it impossible to match, just uncomfortable enough for the Browns to pass.

    runyon27R runyon27 wrote on last edited by
    #63

    @cleinchi said:

    it isn't about making it impossible to match, just uncomfortable enough for the Browns to pass.

    Yeah, I know, only scenario I can think of is high guaranteed money with a high payout in yr 2 of the deal so if signed its hard to just cut him without negative impact to the salary cap. And since the browns can roll over probably 20+ million in cap money I think it will be hard, Browns will just have to be on a tight leash for one yr if that were the scenario. The other scenario to me if draft a C this yr sign the deal and cut bait in yr 2 but again depends on the guaranteed money.

  • cambridgehoC cambridgeho wrote on last edited by
    #64

    Personally you cant blame a guy for wanting max money, however, he is pretty much telling the Browns to GFY. We have plenty of picks to get a Center in the Draft. Probably one of our 3rd or 4th rounders.

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
    #65

    It's business. Who cares. Not like a center wins any games.

  • nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
    #66

    Haslam has made it clear they will match any offer...he'll be a Brown at least one more year.

  • Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
    #67

    My take is ... Mack obviously wants to stay in Cleveland with a long term deal. Otherwise, he wouldn't have signed a 5-year deal with Jacksonville, he would have played out his one year at $10 mil and been a free agent, or franchised, next year.

    He KNOWS Cleveland will match this deal.

    He just used Jacksonville to get his damn deal done.

    Zombo

  • So why exactly is everyone freaking out and pissed at Mack? Because his contract ran up and he decided to look elsewhere? That's how the business works. I'm not seeing what's so completely awful about it. I'm not seeking why he is some SOB that deserves all this hatred.

    Even references to Lebron from the butt hurt Cavs fans that STILL have sand in their vag.

    Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
    #68

    @mld-woody said:

    So why exactly is everyone freaking out and pissed at Mack? Because his contract ran up and he decided to look elsewhere? That's how the business works. I'm not seeing what's so completely awful about it. I'm not seeking why he is some SOB that deserves all this hatred.

    Even references to Lebron from the butt hurt Cavs fans that STILL have sand in their vag.

    It's he & his Agent saying they'll get an offer Cleveland can't match.

    Translation: It's pretty clear Mack wants out of Cleveland. It's called "burning bridges".

    My feeling: We are trying to change a culture & create a positive, winning unit. There is no place here for a player who doesn't to be here, so let his ass go. I think he figures the Browns want him, will match & have to pay ridiculous money.

    What I want: For the Browns to "pass" & let him get paid by a REAL shit-hole of a team that is going nowhere! If he wants out of Cleveland, he'd be of little benefit here both on field & in the locker room.

    Mike

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
    #69

    I don't blame him for doing what he can to get more money. Its a dangerous business

  • Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
    #70

    He basically just signed with the Browns.

    Zombo

  • D DooDooBrown wrote on last edited by
    #71

    Press conference coming up..

    "I've decided to take my talents to South Beach Jacksonville"..

  • Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
    #72

    The business end of the NFL sucks.

    Save the money & pay the play makers on the team. We should be able to find a center.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
    #73

    yeah mack was/is good but he can go fuck himself.

    have fun in the sun titty boy!

  • So why exactly is everyone freaking out and pissed at Mack? Because his contract ran up and he decided to look elsewhere? That's how the business works. I'm not seeing what's so completely awful about it. I'm not seeking why he is some SOB that deserves all this hatred.

    Even references to Lebron from the butt hurt Cavs fans that STILL have sand in their vag.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
    #74

    @mld-woody said:

    So why exactly is everyone freaking out and pissed at Mack? Because his contract ran up and he decided to look elsewhere? That's how the business works. I'm not seeing what's so completely awful about it. I'm not seeking why he is some SOB that deserves all this hatred.

    Even references to Lebron from the butt hurt Cavs fans that STILL have sand in their vag.

    Yeah, it's business- Mack apparently wants to be paid like the best center in the NFL- and it's open to debate if he is or not. Franchise tagging Mack would have been foolish- yeah, we could keep him for another year, but pay him more than Joe Thomas? You kidding me? And this same crap would start all over next year. Have to wonder what Mack will do if we do decide to match? Will he sit in a corner and pout? With the contract he's going to get, he's going to be completely untradeable.

    Zombo said:

    My take is ... Mack obviously wants to stay in Cleveland with a long term deal. Otherwise, he wouldn't have signed a 5-year deal with Jacksonville, he would have played out his one year at $10 mil and been a free agent, or franchised, next year.

    He KNOWS Cleveland will match this deal.

    He just used Jacksonville to get his damn deal done.

    Zombo

    Know what's disturbing to me Z? That "Mack wants to play out his contract in Florida". If that's truly his attitude- go ahead and play for a crappy team for more money. For all we know Mack wants to play for a warm weather team. We'll get a third round compensatory pick next year. Pettine said they have all the scenarios covered. The Browns certainly have more inside info than we do about their contract negotiations with Mack. I have to believe their offer was more than fair.

    If we have to let him go, so be it- to make sure we hang on to Gordon, Haden, and Taylor- well, they're all far more valuable to the Browns than a center- even a Pro Bowl one.

  • My take is ... Mack obviously wants to stay in Cleveland with a long term deal. Otherwise, he wouldn't have signed a 5-year deal with Jacksonville, he would have played out his one year at $10 mil and been a free agent, or franchised, next year.

    He KNOWS Cleveland will match this deal.

    He just used Jacksonville to get his damn deal done.

    Zombo

    OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by Osiris
    #75

    Zombo said:

    My take is ... Mack obviously wants to stay in Cleveland with a long term deal. Otherwise, he wouldn't have signed a 5-year deal with Jacksonville, he would have played out his one year at $10 mil and been a free agent, or franchised, next year.

    He KNOWS Cleveland will match this deal.

    He just used Jacksonville to get his damn deal done.

    Zombo

    Just read on bleacher report he hopes Browns don't match deal. The possibility is there with an opt-out deal on the second year of a front-loaded contract. Hate to see him go, but at this point we should probably just plan to draft now two offensive linemen in the first four rounds. I don't want him on our team if he's gonna be this much trouble.
  • It's business. Who cares. Not like a center wins any games.

    R RoyceRolls wrote on last edited by
    #76

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Not like a center wins any games.

    Absolutely, if the Jags want their center to be the highest paid player on the team, let them have him.

  • Zombo said:

    My take is ... Mack obviously wants to stay in Cleveland with a long term deal. Otherwise, he wouldn't have signed a 5-year deal with Jacksonville, he would have played out his one year at $10 mil and been a free agent, or franchised, next year.

    He KNOWS Cleveland will match this deal.

    He just used Jacksonville to get his damn deal done.

    Zombo

    Just read on bleacher report he hopes Browns don't match deal. The possibility is there with an opt-out deal on the second year of a front-loaded contract. Hate to see him go, but at this point we should probably just plan to draft now two offensive linemen in the first four rounds. I don't want him on our team if he's gonna be this much trouble.
    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
    #77

    @osiris said:

    Just read on bleacher report he hopes Browns don't match deal.

    Hate to see him go,

    really? after him saying he HOPES the browns DON'T match?

    that's a slap in the face by a bitch dude. the next thing that comes is a kick to the balls. do you want to be standing there for that?

    fuck sugar tits.

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
    #78

    "Hi, Jags".

    "Say, give us your second round draft pick this year, and

    we'll refuse to match your offer."

    "Thanks ! Now, who is going to play center when

    you travel and play a northern team in the snow?"

  • @osiris said:

    Just read on bleacher report he hopes Browns don't match deal.

    Hate to see him go,

    really? after him saying he HOPES the browns DON'T match?

    that's a slap in the face by a bitch dude. the next thing that comes is a kick to the balls. do you want to be standing there for that?

    fuck sugar tits.

    OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by Osiris
    #79

    @miktoxic said:

    really? after him saying he HOPES the browns DON'T match?

    that's a slap in the face by a bitch dude. the next thing that comes is a kick to the balls. do you want to be standing there for that?

    fuck sugar tits.

    It's from Adam Schefter, not a direct quote. Dunno how reliable he is:

    "ESPN's Adam Schefter was among the first to report that Mack was not only set to agree to terms with the Jaguars on a long-term deal, but was hopeful that the Browns would choose not to match it, as is their right after hitting Mack with the transition tag."

    -http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2023497-is-c-alex-mack-worth-brewing-multi-million-battle-between-browns-and-jaguars

    The rest of the article outlines how they can make the contract something Cleveland won't want to match. It's real disappointment. If he goes like this, he'll deserve all the boos and jeers he gets next time Jax comes to Cleveland.

  • ClevedogC Clevedog wrote on last edited by
    #80

    So the Browns are going to re-sign. Here is why:

    http://clevedog.blogspot.com/2014/04/browns-should-match-jax-offer-for-alex.html

    And there are links in there with references to the report this morning on Bleacher Report saying the same. Enjoy!