Vote for the Biggest Epic Fail

Browns149

Also why isn't Weeden on that list?

Zombo

Leaf

Thompson

Ware

Smith

Russell

And a tip of chardonnay or some gay fruity cocktail to Shep on the Quinn/Leinart combo ... there should be a special category for "Busted QBs that were most beloved by the metrosexual population"

GuNNerGatSKi

@miktoxic said:

schlicter

marinovich

leaf

russell

mcgwire

some would say leaf would be top but when you know what happened to schlicter and marinovich in their lives after the game.....

Especially Marinovich.... Watched a special on him today and I have a lot in common with him as far as the demons I have has to fight.... He seems to be a great guy these days though. Wish the best for him. As someone who lived through the hell that Mari did I feel deeply for the guy. So much potential, wasted..... I mean the guy threw ten touchdown passes in an Arena football game whilst going through withdrawals. I'm just glad I got my life together way way sooner in my journey than he did.... God so many years he wasted....

I'd have to say:

Marinovich

J. Russel

Leaf

Akili Smith

Schlicter

miktoxic

yeah i saw the same special. i tell you the father put too much on that kid, but that's neither here nor there.

in my wild times in the army and just getting out i did a lot of stoopid shit but never touched that. but there were many times where i ended up places that i should have never been and look back at it now thinking how many times i should/could have been dead.

hey, todays a new day and i'm glad to hear you've beat those demons down.

let's hope the browns finally have the monkey off their back.

hoorta

Zombo said:

Leaf

Thompson

Ware

Smith

Russell

And a tip of chardonnay or some gay fruity cocktail to Shep on the Quinn/Leinart combo ... there should be a special category for "Busted QBs that were most beloved by the metrosexual population"

Gee, you forgot one of Shep's other Man-Crushes, Joey Harrington. (hey Gip JH was drafted #3 overall IIRC) yes. he had a lot of yards, but a 26-50 W-L record, and a 69 QBR. Shep was still in love with him for years (as he was with Leinart). Long after it was painfully obvious they both sucked.

I have to nominate Mike Phipps as the biggest Browns bust- considering we traded away a HOFer for him. Amazingly (I would have lost big money on it) Phipps actually had a winning record as a qb- though I don't know how- with 55 TD passes, 108 picks, and a QBR of 52.

sisky fringo

Zombo said:
And a tip of pinot grigio or some faggy-ass lt rum umbrella cocktail to Shlep on the Quinn/Leinart combo ... there should be a special category for "Busted QBs that were most beloved by the metrosexual population"

as much love as he has for QB's i suspect he's more "metroflexible"...a potential warrior for the browneye...also known in closed circles as "craigslist gay".

alright let's stop talking about him since he regularly searches his name here as a keyword...or he'll be poppin by slobbering about yet another of his man-crushes "the currently still relevant alex smith"...

didn't he like Clausen pickle too?? or maybe it was Tannehill. actually i think it was both, depending upon the thread. fuck it who cares.

sisky fringo

with the amount of TD's Spurrier Reaves and Thompson had you'd think they would have had better records in their respective eras.

i'm assuming there were also rushing TD's scored by their teams not included in that TD count as well?

regardless, that's a lot of scoring back then to still lose games...these stats arent telling the whole story obviously.

EDIT oh yeah...and my Most Horrible QB vote goes to **drum roll** the epically inept Mr. Dan McGuire. Esquire.

The Gipper

@browns149 said:
Jamarcus Russell hands down. He was supposed to be better the anyone on that list

I asked for your top 5. Can you count to 5? I ask for 5 in order to assess the worst 5. So just voting for one does not allow me to give a full assessment.

The Gipper

@browns149 said:
Also why isn't Weeden on that list?

Because the fact is, as bad as he is...he isn't as bad as all these other guys. You just think so because your team picked him very recently. Plus...the fact is, his career is far from over.....he could still do something. These others are done.

The Gipper

@hoorta said:

Gee, you forgot one of Shep's other Man-Crushes, Joey Harrington. (hey Gip JH was drafted #3 overall IIRC) yes. he had a lot of yards, but a 26-50 W-L record, and a 69 QBR. Shep was still in love with him for years (as he was with Leinart). Long after it was painfully obvious they both sucked.

I have to nominate Mike Phipps as the biggest Browns bust- considering we traded away a HOFer for him. Amazingly (I would have lost big money on it) Phipps actually had a winning record as a qb- though I don't know how- with 55 TD passes, 108 picks, and a QBR of 52.

Give me your five Hoorta

I am trying to come up with a consensus worst 5....come on guys, grade school: 1,2,3,4,5.

(Also, no, as bad as Phipps seemed to us then, he would have been the best QB we would have seen here in 15 years.....gggggg!)

sisky fringo

sorry Gip i just voted one as well...i just couldnt decide.

if im being honest i was more into bashing Schlep.

(5 bux says after today he now includes "shlep" and "schlep" in his egomaniacal keyword searches for himself...)

The Gipper

Gee, you forgot one of Shep's other Man-Crushes, Joey Harrington. (hey Gip JH was drafted #3 overall IIRC) yes. he had a lot of yards, but a 26-50 W-L record, and a 69 QBR. Shep was still in love with him for years (as he was with Leinart). Long after it was painfully obvious they both sucked.

Are you saying that Shep was Poetic G version 1.0?

The Gipper

Let's Add one more component to this thread....separate and aside from the vote on worst Epic Fail of the Past:

That is: Epic Failure of the Future. Vote for which QB in this coming draft could be the best candidate to join the above list of Epic Failures.

hoorta

@the-gipper said:

Gee, you forgot one of Shep's other Man-Crushes, Joey Harrington. (hey Gip JH was drafted #3 overall IIRC) yes. he had a lot of yards, but a 26-50 W-L record, and a 69 QBR. Shep was still in love with him for years (as he was with Leinart). Long after it was painfully obvious they both sucked.

Are you saying that Shep was Poetic G version 1.0?

Now that you got me to think about it Gip, yes he was (is). Only slobbers over qbs, though. You can bet (if the Browns had the #1 overall) he'd be screaming for the Browns to take a qb, even though Clowney is a once in 10 year talent, and frankly, none of the qbs are. Gee, I forgot about his manly crush on the Clausen Pickle- Alzheimer's must be setting in. He'd be far more tolerable if he'd just admit he's been dead wrong a number of times.

Oh, he's over on the other Board with the same schtick (I occasionally visit- there are some great posters that originally started here, and some guys like Jason J don't much care for the occasional low level of discussion we have here.) Shep's current man-love is JF, subject to change. Maybe he'll kill himself if the Browns don't draft a qb @ #4 this year.

PS- since you asked for my top 5 worst. Campbell and Druckenmiller- any qb in the first round who can't make 1,000 yards passing was a monumental bust. Art Schlichter, A-kill-me "worm burner" Smith, and so many stinkers to choose from for the 5th. Have to go with Ryan Leaf, with a dishonorable mention to JaFattus Russell.

GuNNerGatSKi

Gip I would have to say the biggest fail of this draft at QB is going to be Teddy B.... I just get the sense that though this guy may have been a good college QB, he doesn't have the "it" to succeed in the NFL. He is just so, I don't know, vanilla! I have been wrong many times before but that is my two cents.

The Gipper

GuNNerGatSKy said:
Gip I would have to say the biggest fail of this draft at QB is going to be Teddy B.... I just get the sense that though this guy may have been a good college QB, he doesn't have the "it" to succeed in the NFL. He is just so, I don't know, vanilla! I have been wrong many times before but that is my two cents.

I don't know, like I said, I see a lot of Warren Moon in him. (yes, I am going with the fact they are both black, but beyond that I think there can be a lot of similarities.)

The Gipper

Don't know if anyone else wants to vote on this.

So far we have a 3 way tie for #1 worst: Russell, Leaf, Schlichter. Akili Smith is right behind those 3, with Marinovich/McQwire/Campbell another step back.

Mark O

I think Schlister has to be at the top. Just about all the others at least had a moment of glory at some point to make you think their career might be salvageable. Even Ryan Leaf had a couple of good games here and there.

thenew23

1. J. Russell - Not because of stats or w-L record, but b/c I watched him play. In the NFL, he didn't even resemble a QB in any way. Worst bust EVER at any position.

2. R. Leaf - Almost drafted over future HOF Peyton Manning. See how that turned out.

3. A. Smith - what a wasted pick at #3. He wasn't even that good in college

4. A. Schlichter - A little before my time, but I know he was supposed to be a good college player

5. A. Ware - a lot of hype about him coming out of college

I based mine on where they were drafted... These are all guys drafted in the top 10...

mohican

I'm a little amazed that Touchdown TImmy Couch is not on anyone's list.

Then again, I give him points for beating the Steelers, especially in his first and second seasons on those dreadful teams.

Just out of curiousity, how would any of you stack Tim Couch against this years crop of "star" QBs?