Training Camp Battles (by position group): Linebackers
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One of the truly "up for grabs" spots on the team is the #2 ILB. Only that and ROG and a WR spot.......and maybe QB.
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I wouldn't necessarily count ILB2 as a solid start position. The snap count is not going to be anywhere near as high as the other 6 positions on the D because of the variations in formations we'll be using. I'd be interested in the statistics from both us and the bills last year.
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For us last year there were the following snap counts:
Haden: 1051 / 1107
Skrine: 1036
Owens: 539
McFadden: 186
So that's basically saying that for around half of the snaps we had a third CB on the field.
Craig Robertson saw 790 snaps, while DQJ had 1105.
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For us last year there were the following snap counts:
Haden: 1051 / 1107
Skrine: 1036
Owens: 539
McFadden: 186
So that's basically saying that for around half of the snaps we had a third CB on the field.
Craig Robertson saw 790 snaps, while DQJ had 1105.
For us last year there were the following snap counts:
Haden: 1051 / 1107
Skrine: 1036
Owens: 539
McFadden: 186
So that's basically saying that for around half of the snaps we had a third CB on the field.
Craig Robertson saw 790 snaps, while DQJ had 1105.
Interesting. Where did you find these figures?
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Rotoworld, on the individual play profiles.
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i know this is a new defense BUT why do we call sheard and mingo OLBs when they are defensive ends?
wouldn't you modify the scheme to get the most out of your players?
wtf?
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i know this is a new defense BUT why do we call sheard and mingo OLBs when they are defensive ends?
wouldn't you modify the scheme to get the most out of your players?
wtf?
i know this is a new defense BUT why do we call sheard and mingo OLBs when they are defensive ends?
wouldn't you modify the scheme to get the most out of your players?
wtf?
They're pass rushers. In a 4-3 they'd be DEs and that's where they were brought up in college ball, but in a 3-4 they're standing up at OLB because that's where the rush comes from. The difference between 4-3 DE and 3-4 OLB is basically the added coverage, but the pass rushing techniques will be basically the same.
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thanks!
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i know this is a new defense BUT why do we call sheard and mingo OLBs when they are defensive ends?
wouldn't you modify the scheme to get the most out of your players?
wtf?
They're pass rushers. In a 4-3 they'd be DEs and that's where they were brought up in college ball, but in a 3-4 they're standing up at OLB because that's where the rush comes from. The difference between 4-3 DE and 3-4 OLB is basically the added coverage, but the pass rushing techniques will be basically the same.
They're pass rushers. In a 4-3 they'd be DEs and that's where they were brought up in college ball, but in a 3-4 they're standing up at OLB because that's where the rush comes from. The difference between 4-3 DE and 3-4 OLB is basically the added coverage, but the pass rushing techniques will be basically the same.
Ummmmm... disagree...
Anyway.... here's a fun fact.
Originally the 3-4 was developed to be a superior run defense with 3 D-line tying up 5 O-line creating an extra pursuing LB.
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They're pass rushers. In a 4-3 they'd be DEs and that's where they were brought up in college ball, but in a 3-4 they're standing up at OLB because that's where the rush comes from. The difference between 4-3 DE and 3-4 OLB is basically the added coverage, but the pass rushing techniques will be basically the same.
Ummmmm... disagree...
Anyway.... here's a fun fact.
Originally the 3-4 was developed to be a superior run defense with 3 D-line tying up 5 O-line creating an extra pursuing LB.
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**crickets**
no takers?
**crickets**
no takers?
i know shit about football schemes etc.
it just amazes when a new coaching staff comes in that they change things to a point where they make players play outside their comfort zone considering they have played a different position all their life and excelled at it.
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To me the difference between the 3-4 and 4-3 is just where you start the play. We've all seen shit like cornerback sacks and defensive linemen peeling off into coverage.
I think diversity with the linebackers is what the Browns are going for. You hear shit from the minicamps about how Mingo is looking good in coverage, but the guy wasn't drafted to do that shit. However, he's athletic as hell and probably good at it.
Drafting Kirksey tells me something about what their looking for in a LB. He was drafted higher than the experts thought he would be, so what is it about him that the Browns thought highly enough to draft him that high? Seriously, l wanna know.
And l like Martin to make the 53.
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i don't think i ever saw lawrence taylor or reggie white, bruce smith etc. drop back into coverage.
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watch pettine and oneil figure out how to lawrence taylor the frak out of opposing offenses.
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