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Dorsey, Peek, Cousin cut

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  • nickersN nickers wrote on
    #5

    Good deal cuz all 3 suck...Although I wouldve retain ed Dorsey in a coaching position...

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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    Aloysius said:

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    No surprises there. I like the fact that they are getting started now. Decisive moves allows you to move forward (instead of worrying about coin flips later).

    D dencyguy wrote on
    #6

    @wpb-dawg-fan said:

    No surprises there. I like the fact that they are getting started now. Decisive moves allows you to move forward (instead of worrying about coin flips later).

    I'm not sure I would qualify any of those as decisive moves...Peek was hurt last year, and Dorsey and Cousin sucked out loud. Seems more like standard house-cleaning; the decisive moves will come later.

    Dennis

  • ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on
    #7

    Browns announce seven roster moves

    Zac Jackson, Staff Writer

    02.09.2009

    The last two players to start at quarterback for the Browns are no longer with the team.

    The Browns announced seven roster moves Monday. Ken Dorsey's contract was terminated, and Bruce Gradkowski was waived.

    The contracts of Antwan Peek and Terry Cousin were also terminated. Also waived were punter Mike Dragosavich, kicker Jason Reda and offensive lineman Eric Young.

    Dorsey was the Browns' third quarterback for most of the past three seasons but started three games in 2008 before suffering a season-ending injury December 21 against Cincinnati. He went to injured-reserve and in stepped Gradkowski, who was with the team less than four weeks before starting the season finale in Pittsburgh.

    Peek's 2008 season ended in training camp after he suffered a knee injury. He played in 14 games (four starts) in his first season with the Browns in 2007 and had four sacks. Cousin, a 12-year veteran, signed with the Browns last spring and played in all 16 games last season as a backup cornerback, recording one interception and two pass breakups.

    Dragosavich and Reda signed future contracts with the Browns last month. Dragosavich spent the final week of 2008 on the Browns' practice squad, and Reda spent the 2008 preseason with the team as an undrafted free agent. Young signed with the Browns as an undrafted free agent last spring and spent the season on the non-football injury list.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on
    #8

    Lumberg will be excited by this news.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
  • ? Aloysius wrote on
    #9

    Damn. Eric Young must have never fully recovered from the quad tear.

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  • P PBJ wrote on
    #10

    And so it begins...

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    Damn. Eric Young must have never fully recovered from the quad tear.

    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on
    #11

    Aloysius said:

    Damn. Eric Young must have never fully recovered from the quad tear.

    I had hopes for that guy...I know he was a good college player.....oh well.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
  • GipsG Gips wrote on
    #12

    Very good start by the mankok team of ridding the team of guys that cant cut it..but stay tuned folks much more to come! 😉

    Peek gets hurt to easy and to much sadly he is a bust...

    We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
  • ? Aloysius wrote on
    #13

    It's slightly ironic that we got rid of Dorsey & Gradkowski on the same day that Luke McCown got a new 2 year deal from the Bucs that could be worth up to $14 mil.

    I'm not convinced that McCown can be the guy, but he probably is worth more than the wasted late 6th Round pick we got for him. You just can't get rid of a developmental QB until you're absolutely convinced he sucks - there's just too much of a risk that some other team will end up fleecing you or getting a starting QB for free (i.e. Derek Anderson, Tyler Thigpen).

    And to say something positive about Mangini, he understands this. Despite trading for Brett Favre and having Brett Ratliff emerge during last year's preseason, he kept 5th Round pick Erik Ainge as a fourth QB on the opening day roster, then stashed him on IR a few weeks into the season.

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  • ? mz. wrote on
    #14

    Nobody ever accused Phil of being savvy with his late-round picks.

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    It's slightly ironic that we got rid of Dorsey & Gradkowski on the same day that Luke McCown got a new 2 year deal from the Bucs that could be worth up to $14 mil.

    I'm not convinced that McCown can be the guy, but he probably is worth more than the wasted late 6th Round pick we got for him. You just can't get rid of a developmental QB until you're absolutely convinced he sucks - there's just too much of a risk that some other team will end up fleecing you or getting a starting QB for free (i.e. Derek Anderson, Tyler Thigpen).

    And to say something positive about Mangini, he understands this. Despite trading for Brett Favre and having Brett Ratliff emerge during last year's preseason, he kept 5th Round pick Erik Ainge as a fourth QB on the opening day roster, then stashed him on IR a few weeks into the season.

    W We need Tom Tupa wrote on
    #15

    Aloysius said:

    It's slightly ironic that we got rid of Dorsey & Gradkowski on the same day that Luke McCown got a new 2 year deal from the Bucs that could be worth up to $14 mil.

    I'm not convinced that McCown can be the guy, but he probably is worth more than the wasted late 6th Round pick we got for him. You just can't get rid of a developmental QB until you're absolutely convinced he sucks - there's just too much of a risk that some other team will end up fleecing you or getting a starting QB for free (i.e. Derek Anderson, Tyler Thigpen).

    And to say something positive about Mangini, he understands this. Despite trading for Brett Favre and having Brett Ratliff emerge during last year's preseason, he kept 5th Round pick Erik Ainge as a fourth QB on the opening day roster, then stashed him on IR a few weeks into the season.

    I disagree. The Ravens couldve spent last year letting Anderson, Boller, and Smith take turns disappointing. Instead, they found a new franchise QB. The Bucs couldve had Quinn if they wouldve given up on the McCown, Griese, Simms, every other backup QB in the league approach. The Browns came this close to wasting 2007 on Charlie Frye. I just dont see a perennial QB competition as a good thing.

  • ? Aloysius wrote on
    #16

    Oh, I don't mean you have to start the guy or hold off on drafting a 1st Round QB. I'm just talking about retaining a rookie or second year developmental guy as your 3rd QB.

    The Ravens and Vikings made a mistake in putting DA & Thigpen on waivers, and I think we made a similar mistake in trading McCown.

  • Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on
    #17

    Gee, our new leaders aren't looking at the roster & saying, "Um, well, uh...".

    Glad to see that they are hitting the ground running.

    Mike

    IN DORSEY I TRUST
  • DTBHD DTBH wrote on
    #18

    Yeah. Absolutely love it. Cousins is exactly the type of halfassed player Mangini won't put up with.

  • P pl4tinum wrote on
    #19

    As they watch more film, more turds will get flushed. I fully anticipate Shaffer, Shaun Smith and Andra Davis to be next.

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  • P PBJ wrote on
    #20

    I don't know about Shaffer, he played okay last year. In 2007 he was above average. Put a good RG between him and Fraley and both look a lot better. Duke Robinson in the second?

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  • LumberghL Lumbergh wrote on
    #21

    It may come as a surprise to Bradies Ladies, but Shaun Smith DID NOT get cut.

    All the shep bullshit guarantees in the world still couldn't make that one happen.

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  • P PBJ wrote on
    #22

    It may come as a surprise to Derek's fluffer, but today wasn't the only day to make cuts.

  • LumberghL Lumbergh

    It may come as a surprise to Bradies Ladies, but Shaun Smith DID NOT get cut.

    All the shep bullshit guarantees in the world still couldn't make that one happen.

    ? mz. wrote on
    #23

    @lumbergh said:

    It may come as a surprise to Bradies Ladies, but Shaun Smith DID NOT get cut.

    Final cut was today?

    Your ignorance continues to astound me.

  • P PBJ

    I don't know about Shaffer, he played okay last year. In 2007 he was above average. Put a good RG between him and Fraley and both look a lot better. Duke Robinson in the second?

    Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on
    #24

    @pbj said:

    I don't know about Shaffer, he played okay last year. In 2007 he was above average. Put a good RG between him and Fraley and both look a lot better. Duke Robinson in the second?

    Hmmm. Interesting. I'd argue that Fraley ma de Hadnot look worse than he is. But, that's just what I saw.

    The most pressure we saw was up the middle (again, I think that is Fraley just being out-sized, not out played). Domino effect. JT got beat when he had to cheat inside to help McKinney (or when Steinbach was ailing but playing anyway).

    Also odd to see Dorsey go, unless he needed to get chopped so that Luke Skywalker's Brady Quinn's training can be complete and order is restored to the force.

    Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula
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