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  • dear god did any of you notice how bad mcquistan is? His butt was in JF's lap every single play. That was ridiculous. God help us if our starting LG goes down.

    Tour2maT 1 Reply

  • Can't have all pros at every position. He's notoriously a slow starter but picks up as the season goes on. We got other more pressing issues than replacing an average RT.

  • C Clevfan4life

    dear god did any of you notice how bad mcquistan is? His butt was in JF's lap every single play. That was ridiculous. God help us if our starting LG goes down.

    @clevfan4life said:

    dear god did any of you notice how bad mcquistan is? His butt was in JF's lap every single play. That was ridiculous. God help us if our starting LG goes down.

    They shuffled everything around last nite... had Wallace inside at LG next to McQ...

    Looking for two things I'd guess. Second stringer O-line candidates at any position and who has the versatility to help them stick.

    Aside from Gilkey, and maybe Parsons, our backups have not shown well this pre-season.

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  • I told you he would cost this team a game.

    hoortaH 1 Reply

  • He didn't. Don't attempt to pin it on him. I can point to the myriad of missed holding calls and the obvious fucked up spot on the punt that should have put Pittsburgh inside their own 1.

  • I don't think Schwartz cost us the game either, but will be a day or so before I grade the line.

    Now about that punt... player + ball + (player's shoulder on goal line) = touchback

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  • T TexasAg1969

    I told you he would cost this team a game.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I told you he would cost this team a game.

    Nah- the defense playing like it was still preseason in the first half cost us the game. Add the offense into that equation.

    Dully noted Schwartz got blown up on a couple of plays. If I saw it, the coaches saw it.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    I don't think Schwartz cost us the game either, but will be a day or so before I grade the line.

    Now about that punt... player + ball + (player's shoulder on goal line) = touchback

    @tour2ma said:

    I don't think Schwartz cost us the game either, but will be a day or so before I grade the line.

    Now about that punt... player + ball + (player's shoulder on goal line) = touchback

    Said player hit the ground with possession then his shoulder touched the goal line as he rolled a little. Should have been down at the half yard line.

    Let's not get into the missed holding calls along that Steelers Oline. It was bad.

    Tour2maT 1 Reply

  • Not that I noticed Schwartz beasting or anything on his side, but relatively speaking to past performances of his and the o line in general..he/they didn't do a terrible job. How is someone saying Scwartz cost us this game?

  • I guess none of you saw him blown back into Hoyer at the key point in the game so we had to kick out of the endzone and give pukesburg a short field to move in for the winning fg.

    Go back and watch the last possession. He did cost it in crunch time as I predicted would happen some time ago.

    Canton MikeC 1 Reply
  • Z Zombo

    He'll be fine. Preseason is for making mistakes. The entire offense is gobbling down a new system, they'll get in sync for Pittsburgh.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    He'll be fine. Preseason is for making mistakes. The entire offense is gobbling down a new system, they'll get in sync for Pittsburgh.

    Zombo

    Fuckin lol. You watch the game today? It was a regular season game. Schwartz graded out as an F. Cost us time and time again. Replace him this is a good OL.

    What's your BS excuse now?

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  • STFU. i don't like schwartz either but the line seemed to hold in the second half......correct?

    how about the pussy run the ball up the snout calls in the first half? sure establish a run game but can we have hoyer throw the ball on 1st or 2nd and not just telegraph a run the rest of the way?

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  • T TexasAg1969

    I guess none of you saw him blown back into Hoyer at the key point in the game so we had to kick out of the endzone and give pukesburg a short field to move in for the winning fg.

    Go back and watch the last possession. He did cost it in crunch time as I predicted would happen some time ago.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I guess none of you saw him blown back into Hoyer at the key point in the game so we had to kick out of the endzone and give pukesburg a short field to move in for the winning fg.

    Go back and watch the last possession. He did cost it in crunch time as I predicted would happen some time ago.

    But didn't he hop backwards on one leg nicely? At least until Hoyer got in his way! That was sad.

    I find it hard to believe we don't have better than Schwartz at RT. I just don't see any FIGHT in him.

    Mike

    IN DORSEY I TRUST
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  • Canton MikeC Canton Mike

    @texasag1969 said:

    I guess none of you saw him blown back into Hoyer at the key point in the game so we had to kick out of the endzone and give pukesburg a short field to move in for the winning fg.

    Go back and watch the last possession. He did cost it in crunch time as I predicted would happen some time ago.

    But didn't he hop backwards on one leg nicely? At least until Hoyer got in his way! That was sad.

    I find it hard to believe we don't have better than Schwartz at RT. I just don't see any FIGHT in him.

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    But didn't he hop backwards on one leg nicely? At least until Hoyer got in his way! That was sad.

    I find it hard to believe we don't have better than Schwartz at RT. I just don't see any FIGHT in him.

    Mike

    Yes, I scored him a 9 on the hop, but a 2 for form. 😆

    👍
  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    STFU. i don't like schwartz either but the line seemed to hold in the second half......correct?

    how about the pussy run the ball up the snout calls in the first half? sure establish a run game but can we have hoyer throw the ball on 1st or 2nd and not just telegraph a run the rest of the way?

    @miktoxic said:

    STFU. i don't like schwartz either but the line seemed to hold in the second half......correct?

    how about the pussy run the ball up the snout calls in the first half? sure establish a run game but can we have hoyer throw the ball on 1st or 2nd and not just telegraph a run the rest of the way?

    You're a dumbass. Watch the game, quit giving Z a handy.

  • Canton MikeC Canton Mike

    @texasag1969 said:

    I guess none of you saw him blown back into Hoyer at the key point in the game so we had to kick out of the endzone and give pukesburg a short field to move in for the winning fg.

    Go back and watch the last possession. He did cost it in crunch time as I predicted would happen some time ago.

    But didn't he hop backwards on one leg nicely? At least until Hoyer got in his way! That was sad.

    I find it hard to believe we don't have better than Schwartz at RT. I just don't see any FIGHT in him.

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    But didn't he hop backwards on one leg nicely? At least until Hoyer got in his way! That was sad.

    I find it hard to believe we don't have better than Schwartz at RT. I just don't see any FIGHT in him.

    Mike

    Ya that was impressive. Competed with OSU Oline display last night. Schwartz is easily a bottom 3 RT in the league.

  • Really? You're going to blame Schwartz for this one? Wow... did he fuck your mom or something?

    #Justsayin'
  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @tour2ma said:

    I don't think Schwartz cost us the game either, but will be a day or so before I grade the line.

    Now about that punt... player + ball + (player's shoulder on goal line) = touchback

    Said player hit the ground with possession then his shoulder touched the goal line as he rolled a little. Should have been down at the half yard line.

    Let's not get into the missed holding calls along that Steelers Oline. It was bad.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Said player hit the ground with possession then his shoulder touched the goal line as he rolled a little. Should have been down at the half yard line.

    Ummmm... no. He was not down by contact... the play was not over... he had to stay off of the goalline... he fell right on it with his right shoulder.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I guess none of you saw him blown back into Hoyer at the key point in the game so we had to kick out of the endzone and give pukesburg a short field to move in for the winning fg.

    Go back and watch the last possession. He did cost it in crunch time as I predicted would happen some time ago.

    My impression at the time was that it was a coverage sack. Just rewatched it and it was almost 4 seconds after the snap that Heywood went under Schwartz to grab Hoyer's leg. Before that the RB (West) missed a chip on Heyward and ended up falling down. Even considering all that Hoyer could have slid to his left as there was no pressure from that side.

    Enough was wrong with that play that I can't lay it at Schwartz's clay-ish feet...

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  • Schwartz had a good day today.

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/09/sunday_showdown_cleveland_brow_1.html

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  • U Unsympathetic

    Schwartz had a good day today.

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/09/sunday_showdown_cleveland_brow_1.html

    @unsympathetic said:

    Schwartz had a good day today.

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/09/sunday_showdown_cleveland_brow_1.html

    No he didn't. He got beat on most passing plays, but none other than the Heyward sacks resulted in sacks. They did however collapse the pocket too quickly and hurried BH. It happens but with Schwartz it happens damn near every snap. His run blocking is suspect too.

    Again, overall we have a pretty good Oline, but we need a more efficient RT. Bitonio has been impressing.

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