we got seriously lucky today...
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On that last pass to Hawkins, Hoyer said he got hit as he was throwing it . . . :
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On that last pass to Hawkins, Hoyer said he got hit as he was throwing it . . . :
On that last pass to Hawkins, Hoyer said he got hit as he was throwing it . . . :
He's deeply wrong: http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014091403/2014/REG2/saints@browns#contentId=0ap3000000394322
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Never understood why fans run to a message board after a win to cry about missed opportunities or almost fails after a win...
That's what you want to hear. Every poster on here that has even remotely brought up an area of improvement also very much touched on much improved and positive plays, but unfortunately you can only also take so much, "Yea, great game, they're the best, best Home Opener in the World, Greatest team ever, Kardiac Kids, Bubbles, Puppy Kisses, Mom's hugs feel so good, I'm in Love" ... it is a football game with many nooks and crannies, and also not hard to skip any unfavorable dialog if you wish.
wow...youve become a bitter old man.That's what you want to hear. Every poster on here that has even remotely brought up an area of improvement also very much touched on much improved and positive plays, but unfortunately you can only also take so much, "Yea, great game, they're the best, best Home Opener in the World, Greatest team ever, Kardiac Kids, Bubbles, Puppy Kisses, Mom's hugs feel so good, I'm in Love" ... it is a football game with many nooks and crannies, and also not hard to skip any unfavorable dialog if you wish.
Carry on then with your subjective analysis. Wouldnt want you to have any fun or anything.
Edit: I guess I only made it 6 months before the sad state of browns fandom has beat me down again. There's quite a few good posters here, many, many more losers. So, if I'm to ever enjoy football it'll have to be elsewhere.
Ypou own this fucking site....yet epitomize this loser mentality. You finally show up after a win and do little but contribute to the negativity surrounding the win. Good fucking job man.
There's a time for discussing improve!nts. Its called tomorrpw. Have fun wallowing in your misery. I just can't take it anymore.
To the rest of you, take care and try to enjoy the season.
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On that last pass to Hawkins, Hoyer said he got hit as he was throwing it . . . :
He's deeply wrong: http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014091403/2014/REG2/saints@browns#contentId=0ap3000000394322
Yeah, my mistake, he got hit and didn't see the catch - thought he said he got hit as he threw it.
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wow...youve become a bitter old man.That's what you want to hear. Every poster on here that has even remotely brought up an area of improvement also very much touched on much improved and positive plays, but unfortunately you can only also take so much, "Yea, great game, they're the best, best Home Opener in the World, Greatest team ever, Kardiac Kids, Bubbles, Puppy Kisses, Mom's hugs feel so good, I'm in Love" ... it is a football game with many nooks and crannies, and also not hard to skip any unfavorable dialog if you wish.
Carry on then with your subjective analysis. Wouldnt want you to have any fun or anything.
Edit: I guess I only made it 6 months before the sad state of browns fandom has beat me down again. There's quite a few good posters here, many, many more losers. So, if I'm to ever enjoy football it'll have to be elsewhere.
Ypou own this fucking site....yet epitomize this loser mentality. You finally show up after a win and do little but contribute to the negativity surrounding the win. Good fucking job man.
There's a time for discussing improve!nts. Its called tomorrpw. Have fun wallowing in your misery. I just can't take it anymore.
To the rest of you, take care and try to enjoy the season.
wow...youve become a bitter old man.
Carry on then with your subjective analysis. Wouldnt want you to have any fun or anything.
Edit: I guess I only made it 6 months before the sad state of browns fandom has beat me down again. There's quite a few good posters here, many, many more losers. So, if I'm to ever enjoy football it'll have to be elsewhere.
Ypou own this fucking site....yet epitomize this loser mentality. You finally show up after a win and do little but contribute to the negativity surrounding the win. Good fucking job man.
There's a time for discussing improve!nts. Its called tomorrpw. Have fun wallowing in your misery. I just can't take it anymore.
To the rest of you, take care and try to enjoy the season.
The Baltimore Ravens are now on the clock. Sorry I started focusing on them after a few high fives. It's a single fucking win. I expect these things to happen, ain't shocked and certainly ain't gonna drop everything and faint. I hope others can act like they've been there before as well.
I'm back because the team appears relevant again. I was bored talking about D'Qwell Jackson leading the team in tackles as a measure of his worth, how high drafted players were great because they were high drafted players, how we were gonna be good because we replaced this coach or that coach or this scheme for that. That shit was boring.
If I'm back, it's because I feel a pulse on this team worth discussing. I'm not wasting time meddling in mediocrity, but we have a long, long, long way to go before we are "good" and that's where I'm starting, on that bottom step. Let's climb!
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choco nobody's being "negative" about the win, I nor anybody else said meh I don't want this win cause we had a bit of luck at the end. Obviously we take the win. But the fact is that if we want to run the AFC north, which if you're paying attention asshole is up for grabs, than some of the stuff going on has to be fixed and it had better be improved upon by next week cause ain't it Ravens week coming up? We have to win next week to put up a W in the division. We need to assfuck the Ravens and having watched that game between them and the steelers...the steelers are quite frankly lucky to have won against us because we went to sleep for 1 half. This is now serious, we have the talent to win the division....but it's not consistent like other teams.
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I don't agree that we were "lucky".
After the win, I'm most worried about Hoyer. His passes weren't commanding enough. Floated too many, then whizzed one past a receiver on a slant in front of the LB's. I'm worried that he isn't going to be able to stretch a defense long. Any pass over intermediate depth today was a dying quail.
But please explain to me how Hoyer's pass to Austin at the sideline with 15 seconds left was not "commanding enough". Or the 4th down completion to Barnidge if you prefer...
Any issues BH had passing were not "depth" related. They were feet related. Back foot weak... step in strong. I believe the "whizzer" you cite was the one where Austin stopped a slant.
But I do agree that we were not lucky... so we have that...
I don't think Hoyer is going to last long. Think Manziel will be in before game 6 or seven. Two hand offs and a pass that should have been caught.
Caught? Because FBs are expected to hold onto passes that come to them late and weak allowing the defender to strip it before it can be tucked away?
Snap was at 8:14 of Q3. And BTW... Agnew was open before JM bailed unnecessarily out of the pocket.
But he was 2 for 2 handing off.
a most sensible post. Only think I disagree with is backing off Brees. You force the team to adjust to what you're doing.
... no half empty or half full or whatever cup....it was awesome to see. The energy was palpable, the crowd was utterly pumped to see how were were pressing.
First, it's a glass not a cup...
Second, I agree that defensively we seemed to start off very aggressive, but backed off. I'd like to know why so I hope Pettine is asked the question.
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Everybody shut up.
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Knew I saw this somewhere :
Daryl Ruiter @RuiterWrongFAN ยท 5h Karlos Dansby just told me this was the loudest crowd he's ever played for today; fans so loud he couldn't hear D play calls
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Haha ... I hope you all get something in your stocking tomorrow morning, but after you play with your Christmas toys, it's back to being Browns fans, so tighten your chin strap and come back barking.
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wow...youve become a bitter old man.That's what you want to hear. Every poster on here that has even remotely brought up an area of improvement also very much touched on much improved and positive plays, but unfortunately you can only also take so much, "Yea, great game, they're the best, best Home Opener in the World, Greatest team ever, Kardiac Kids, Bubbles, Puppy Kisses, Mom's hugs feel so good, I'm in Love" ... it is a football game with many nooks and crannies, and also not hard to skip any unfavorable dialog if you wish.
Carry on then with your subjective analysis. Wouldnt want you to have any fun or anything.
Edit: I guess I only made it 6 months before the sad state of browns fandom has beat me down again. There's quite a few good posters here, many, many more losers. So, if I'm to ever enjoy football it'll have to be elsewhere.
Ypou own this fucking site....yet epitomize this loser mentality. You finally show up after a win and do little but contribute to the negativity surrounding the win. Good fucking job man.
There's a time for discussing improve!nts. Its called tomorrpw. Have fun wallowing in your misery. I just can't take it anymore.
To the rest of you, take care and try to enjoy the season.
Carry on then with your subjective analysis.
and here I thought it was simple ignorance...
Really? You do realize how close that reception to Austin was nearly ruled in-bounds, leaving us with 6-seconds and a desperation heave, chance short yardage play on the sideline, or mid 50+ fieldgoal try right? Lucky, maybe even ill advised, definitely not solidly "commanding".
The Barnidge 4th play was awesome, moreso on Barnidges part though no? Heck of a catch. Hoyer got it there but greater clutch catch.
You're not going to bring up the Hawkins pass that got us to the 11-yardline and in place for a 29-yrd Field Goal? Was that Commanding? Or was Hawkins open by the size of Rob Ryans girth and Hoyer nearly got the yippies and moused the throw? That should have been a TD pass.
You can't tell me that he didn't throw a couple of passes that were so butt ugly wobbly and floating that even the receivers and defenders couldn't judge'em to get in the same area code. Him and his receivers were not on the same page on other throws, and that's not all on Hoyer, but also doesn't spell "commanding" either.
Oh my bad ... he just never threw a great intermediate to deep ball because his shoelaces weren't tied by his Mom. Got it!
Thanks for the class, teach.
You get an F... for football and reading comprehension...
The pass to Austin was ruled in bounds. Passes ruled out of bounds are in-com-ple-tions... If you want to pick on that play, pick on the fact that BH ran off a lot of clock holding onto the ball as long as he did. The pass itself was a strike. One of those "only where his guy could get it" completions. And he stepped into it hard.
Pettine called Hoyer's pass to Barnidge his "best of the game". Said it was one that "he really cut loose." Barnidge made a great catch (you, Mike and I all agree on that), but Mike and I think both can be true. Whereas apparently you think a great catch means a pass cannot be "commanding".
You are correct that I would never tell you that BH did not throw some ugly passes... especially since I already told you the reason they were ugly. But the one to Hawk at the end was just fine with plenty of air under it. I have no clue what got Hawk stumbling.
What did BH have command of today? The game...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Atenears killed choco! You bastard!
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Carry on then with your subjective analysis.
and here I thought it was simple ignorance...
Really? You do realize how close that reception to Austin was nearly ruled in-bounds, leaving us with 6-seconds and a desperation heave, chance short yardage play on the sideline, or mid 50+ fieldgoal try right? Lucky, maybe even ill advised, definitely not solidly "commanding".
The Barnidge 4th play was awesome, moreso on Barnidges part though no? Heck of a catch. Hoyer got it there but greater clutch catch.
You're not going to bring up the Hawkins pass that got us to the 11-yardline and in place for a 29-yrd Field Goal? Was that Commanding? Or was Hawkins open by the size of Rob Ryans girth and Hoyer nearly got the yippies and moused the throw? That should have been a TD pass.
You can't tell me that he didn't throw a couple of passes that were so butt ugly wobbly and floating that even the receivers and defenders couldn't judge'em to get in the same area code. Him and his receivers were not on the same page on other throws, and that's not all on Hoyer, but also doesn't spell "commanding" either.
Oh my bad ... he just never threw a great intermediate to deep ball because his shoelaces weren't tied by his Mom. Got it!
Thanks for the class, teach.
You get an F... for football and reading comprehension...
The pass to Austin was ruled in bounds. Passes ruled out of bounds are in-com-ple-tions... If you want to pick on that play, pick on the fact that BH ran off a lot of clock holding onto the ball as long as he did. The pass itself was a strike. One of those "only where his guy could get it" completions. And he stepped into it hard.
Pettine called Hoyer's pass to Barnidge his "best of the game". Said it was one that "he really cut loose." Barnidge made a great catch (you, Mike and I all agree on that), but Mike and I think both can be true. Whereas apparently you think a great catch means a pass cannot be "commanding".
You are correct that I would never tell you that BH did not throw some ugly passes... especially since I already told you the reason they were ugly. But the one to Hawk at the end was just fine with plenty of air under it. I have no clue what got Hawk stumbling.
What did BH have command of today? The game...
and here I thought it was simple ignorance...
You get an F... for football and reading comprehension...
The pass to Austin was ruled in bounds. Passes ruled out of bounds are in-com-ple-tions...
It was a completion and Austin made it out of bounds, hench the reason time was put back on the clock (clock stopped when he was "down" ruled out-of-bounds). Had he been ruled in-bounds the clock would have continued to run down to 00:06 ... remember the review and time 00:15 added back onto the clock? This play was not clearly communicated by the officials, but the only explanation of why time was added back onto the clock would be that it was a ruled an incompletion (which it wasn't), a completion and tackled out-of-bounds, or someone called time-out (according to NFL stats, no time-out was called here expect for the review).
The NFL replay guys are incorrect on their replay of the telecast, as they state that he did not get out of bounds and much time was ran off the clock, but the play only took 4-seconds, so that just can't be so.
Stick around, we might hold Prom at the end of the year and you can teach us footwork and dance moves, Chachi.
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Dude... You misrepresented what happened not me. I even underlined it for you when I quoted you, dumbass.
Don't type angry...
Forget "Replay"... haven't even seen it. Too busy watching late game and playing with you...
At the time in the game the ex-official commentating said:
Good catch.
Austin got OB.
Clock operator failed to stop clock.
The review confirmed the catch.
The clock correction was made on the field, not by replay.
And you can ask all you want, but no way I go with you to the prom...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Dude... You misrepresented what happened not me. I even underlined it for you when I quoted you, dumbass.
Don't type angry...
Forget "Replay"... haven't even seen it. Too busy watching late game and playing with you...
At the time in the game the ex-official commentating said:
Good catch.
Austin got OB.
Clock operator failed to stop clock.
The review confirmed the catch.
The clock correction was made on the field, not by replay.
And you can ask all you want, but no way I go with you to the prom...
Dude... You misrepresented what happened not me. I even underlined it for you when I quoted you, dumbass.
Don't type angry...
Forget "Replay"... haven't even seen it. Too busy watching late game and playing with you...
At the time in the game the ex-official commentating said:
Good catch.
Austin got OB.
Clock operator failed to stop clock.
The review confirmed the catch.
The clock correction was made on the field, not by replay.
And you can ask all you want, but no way I go with you to the prom...
Whatever, spin it as you will. I know what happened on the play and I don't see how it supports your argument, luckily the official on the field ruled the clock stopped with the possession and that he got out of bounds. That added time on the clock was huge.
At one point you stated, "If you want to pick on that play, pick on the fact that BH ran off a lot of clock holding onto the ball as long as he did." which isn't true, only 4-seconds were run off the clock on that play. The play began at 00:19 and ended at 00:15.
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I'd rather be lucky than good
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nothing like yelling at the beer distributor for there not being any beer in stock. or the beer is warm in the bar you're at and it's the bud delivery guy's fault.
hey chef, your steak sucks! can i get another without the yellowish green mucous slime running off of it? make sure you cook it right god dammit!
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