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  • OsirisO Osiris

    Here is what I will NEVER understand. Why do teams dismiss the idea of drafting a kicker? In any given year, you can secure one of the best kickers in the draft class by spending a seventh round pick. Let's look at the Browns recent history of 7th round picks:

    2013: Garrett Gilkey, OL

    2012: Brad Smelley, FB

    2011: Eric Hagg, DB

    2008: Alex Hall, LB

    2007: Syndric Steptoe, WR

    2006: Justin Hamilton, RB

    Is anyone going to seriously argue that any of these guys have the impact on winning that a good field goal kicker would?

    @osiris said:

    Here is what I will NEVER understand. Why do teams dismiss the idea of drafting a kicker? In any given year, you can secure one of the best kickers in the draft class by spending a seventh round pick. Let's look at the Browns recent history of 7th round picks:

    2013: Garrett Gilkey, OL

    2012: Brad Smelley, FB

    2011: Eric Hagg, DB

    2008: Alex Hall, LB

    2007: Syndric Steptoe, WR

    2006: Justin Hamilton, RB

    Is anyone going to seriously argue that any of these guys have the impact on winning that a good field goal kicker would?

    You have a point

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  • OsirisO Osiris

    Here is what I will NEVER understand. Why do teams dismiss the idea of drafting a kicker? In any given year, you can secure one of the best kickers in the draft class by spending a seventh round pick. Let's look at the Browns recent history of 7th round picks:

    2013: Garrett Gilkey, OL

    2012: Brad Smelley, FB

    2011: Eric Hagg, DB

    2008: Alex Hall, LB

    2007: Syndric Steptoe, WR

    2006: Justin Hamilton, RB

    Is anyone going to seriously argue that any of these guys have the impact on winning that a good field goal kicker would?

    @osiris said:

    Here is what I will NEVER understand. Why do teams dismiss the idea of drafting a kicker? In any given year, you can secure one of the best kickers in the draft class by spending a seventh round pick.

    Agree... even higher if kicker is truly exceptional.

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  • Lions just changed kickers. I expect us to do the same

    #Justsayin'

  • There has to be at least a 1000 UDFA kickers that graduate every year, lets go Farmer youv'e been gold with those UDFA's find us another long snapper while your at it

  • A Alkid3

    There has to be a better kicker that can hit field goals better than this guy. Every time he gets ready to kick I feel like he's got a 25% chance to make it from wherever. I remember him falling down getting ready to kick against the Bengals last year when they won. Cundiff looked like a fool. And still does.

    @alkid3 said:

    There has to be a better kicker that can hit field goals better than this guy. Every time he gets ready to kick I feel like he's got a 25% chance to make it from wherever. I remember him falling down getting ready to kick against the Bengals last year when they won. Cundiff looked like a fool. And still does.

    I only read the first half-dozen posts on this thread. With that said.....I think you guys are whacked.

    Cundiff had an excellent year last year. His kickoffs are deep.

    Neither FG miss was his fault yesterday. The first one had a low snap that Lanning had a hard time handling. He got it in position way too late and Cundiff still hit the crossbar from 50. How he did that.......I don't know. The second one was blocked because Tabor is an idiot. The Rats overloaded our offensive right side and the dude blew right by Winn. Btw............why the fuck is Winn our wing guy? He is way too slow for that spot.

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  • Dawson only making 50% of his kicks this season, maybe he will be available soon? Whats really bad is his kick that was blocked yesterday came when AZ only had 9 guys on the field, talk about poor ST play

  • A Alkid3

    Yes the bad snaps needs to be fixed as well but if my kicker can't hit a 50+ field goal in 2014 it's a problem

    @alkid3 said:

    Yes the bad snaps needs to be fixed as well but if my kicker can't hit a 50+ field goal in 2014 it's a problem

    No doubt not being able to make a 70 yarder sucks.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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    @alkid3 said:

    There has to be a better kicker that can hit field goals better than this guy. Every time he gets ready to kick I feel like he's got a 25% chance to make it from wherever. I remember him falling down getting ready to kick against the Bengals last year when they won. Cundiff looked like a fool. And still does.

    I only read the first half-dozen posts on this thread. With that said.....I think you guys are whacked.

    Cundiff had an excellent year last year. His kickoffs are deep.

    Neither FG miss was his fault yesterday. The first one had a low snap that Lanning had a hard time handling. He got it in position way too late and Cundiff still hit the crossbar from 50. How he did that.......I don't know. The second one was blocked because Tabor is an idiot. The Rats overloaded our offensive right side and the dude blew right by Winn. Btw............why the fuck is Winn our wing guy? He is way too slow for that spot.

    @vers said:

    Btw............why the fuck is Winn our wing guy? He is way too slow for that spot.

    Because no one blocks the outside rusher?

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  • The guy has bounced around on something like a dozen different teams. There's a reason for this.

  • I can imagine how much money they would have saved by paying Phil Dawson and comparing it to the price of two losses?

    (even though he is not immune to a blocked kick)

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  • W Westside Steve

    I can imagine how much money they would have saved by paying Phil Dawson and comparing it to the price of two losses?

    (even though he is not immune to a blocked kick)

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I can imagine how much money they would have saved by paying Phil Dawson and comparing it to the price of two losses?

    (even though he is not immune to a blocked kick)

    WSS

    I never understood trying to save a dime on a kicker. None of them are going to ask for bank busting contracts. Having a bad kicker can ruin a season.

  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    @westside-steve said:

    I can imagine how much money they would have saved by paying Phil Dawson and comparing it to the price of two losses?

    (even though he is not immune to a blocked kick)

    WSS

    I never understood trying to save a dime on a kicker. None of them are going to ask for bank busting contracts. Having a bad kicker can ruin a season.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    I never understood trying to save a dime on a kicker. None of them are going to ask for bank busting contracts. Having a bad kicker can ruin a season.

    What was Dawson's asking price anyway? Anyone recall?

  • Interested in that myself.

  • Seems like player salary info used to be easier to come by, but google did turn this up...

    49ers | Phil Dawson terms

    Fri, 14 Mar 2014 07:27:11 -0700

    Updating previous reports, San Francisco 49ers PK Phil Dawson received a two-year, $6.134 million deal with a $2 million signing bonus. He receives $3 million in the first year and can earn $25,000 in incentives each year.

    Read more: http://www.kffl.com/player/460/nfl/phil-dawson#ixzz3EAFVtQZR

    http://www.kffl.com/player/460/nfl/phil-dawson

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  • I may be wrong, but I don't think Dawson leaving Cleveland had anything to do

    with how much money we were offering. I think Dawson left because he no longer

    wanted to be here.

  • Yup... Seems like his franchise tag was $5-ish... yes?

    I think Phil just wanted a ring... or two... and believed SF was closer than us.

    Can't blame him...

    But would love to beat him to one... or two...

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  • Cundiff fuckin sucks.

    Didnt the Ravens can this asshole years ago?

    Dudes like 4/60 from 50+ yard field goals.

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  • Honestly, I have no idea of the $$ numbers when it came to Dawson. I just seem to remember that

    after years of being (arguably) the best kicker in the NFL he tired of being on a shit team every year

    and exercised his option to leave.

    And no, I absolutely don't blame him.

  • Still no word on open tryouts for kicker? I played soccer when I was 7, and I've been practicing for the past 2 days... I'm sure I can do better than Cundiff. I'm just waiting for my chance!!

    #Justsayin'
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