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  • Dunt giv up howp we jus nid tuu plug dur blk hole din we win

  • The best case scenario is hopefully this: Hoyer realizing after a lousy game against a lousy team that the rumor mill will explode if he lays an egg again. I know a lot of things weren't his fault, but a lot was too. I do actually feel good about this game mainly because it's at home. I had such a strong feeling the trap game was going to occur against Jacksonville, and it did. The rest of the season starts this Sunday against a bad football team, it has to.

  • I think we'll be alright this week. I was one of the few that actually didn't think we'd win 4 in a row and felt like the jags road game could be the one we lost. Hope to win at home against Oak and TB.

    👍

  • I really hope our run D can improve.

    Getting any sort of penetration seems rare this year, every run seems to be at least 2 yards.

  • raiders aren't THAT bad. arizona's a good team and oakland at least gave them a good game unlike what the browns did vs. the JAGoffs.

  • If the defense can do to Carr what they did last week to Bortles, then all we need is a "somewhat decent" performance from our offense. If I'm Pettine, I'm selling out to stop McFadden and forcing the rookie to beat Haden, Gipson, and Co. with his arm, BUT that doesn't seem to be Pettine's way of playing D...

    #Justsayin'
  • P PurplePantyWaste

    @tour2ma said:

    I worry about any West Coast game... time change...

    San Antonio? Hard to believe with the LA hard-on the NFL has...

    Except it's being played in Cleveland...isn't it?

    afcnorthravensfan509 said:

    Except it's being played in Cleveland...isn't it?

    Yea... the saw the late start and assumed...

    You know the rest...

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  • OAK...

    29th against the run...

    11th against the pass...

    31st in sacks...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    OAK...

    29th against the run...

    11th against the pass...

    31st in sacks...

    @tour2ma said:

    OAK...

    29th against the run...

    11th against the pass...

    31st in sacks...

    Sounds like a good game for a modified O-line to gel.

  • Trap game out of the way. Browns and Hoyer will be more on their toes this week, at home...win.

  • Yeah I'm confident about this one.

  • We just can't allow loseing to two O win teams in a row. This will be for win no.4 which equals all of last season. Then to the Tampax Bucks to get no.5 with plenty of season left and Gordon returning November who knows...

  • The Raiders had the Draft that I was envisioning for the Cleveland Browns. They got Mack and Carr and we got Gilbert and Manziel(plus a first round pick next year from Buffalo). I can't say that our lot is a bad one.

    Manziel is the future of the NFL, he needs to learn and grow into his role as the future Leader of the Cleveland Browns.

    While Gilbert has struggled somewhat early this year, that is to be expected from a rookie CB in the NFL. Cornerbacks are very delicate entities in the NFL. I always say that you have to have Cornerback Confidence. Even when you know for a fact that the guy opposite from you is better athletically, measures out bigger and faster than you, has the experience that you don't have and so forth, you have to stand across from him and convince yourself- Not today. Gilbert will be a very fine CB in the NFL he just needs the time to develop and build upon his confidence, much like Buster Skrine had to do his first year or two. He's a giant in a little man's body and he shows massive heart and determination, mentally and physically.

    Those guys and also another pick in the first round which will make our off-season once again exciting and allow us to build upon what is already here, shoot- another big draft and we could easily be one of the deepest NFL rosters in the National Football League.

    So, while I really like Carr and Mack, I think they are both very dangerous and excellent football player that can dominate at their positions, I'm standing across from them this week and convincing myself- Not Today.

    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
  • PoeticGP PoeticG

    The Raiders had the Draft that I was envisioning for the Cleveland Browns. They got Mack and Carr and we got Gilbert and Manziel(plus a first round pick next year from Buffalo). I can't say that our lot is a bad one.

    Manziel is the future of the NFL, he needs to learn and grow into his role as the future Leader of the Cleveland Browns.

    While Gilbert has struggled somewhat early this year, that is to be expected from a rookie CB in the NFL. Cornerbacks are very delicate entities in the NFL. I always say that you have to have Cornerback Confidence. Even when you know for a fact that the guy opposite from you is better athletically, measures out bigger and faster than you, has the experience that you don't have and so forth, you have to stand across from him and convince yourself- Not today. Gilbert will be a very fine CB in the NFL he just needs the time to develop and build upon his confidence, much like Buster Skrine had to do his first year or two. He's a giant in a little man's body and he shows massive heart and determination, mentally and physically.

    Those guys and also another pick in the first round which will make our off-season once again exciting and allow us to build upon what is already here, shoot- another big draft and we could easily be one of the deepest NFL rosters in the National Football League.

    So, while I really like Carr and Mack, I think they are both very dangerous and excellent football player that can dominate at their positions, I'm standing across from them this week and convincing myself- Not Today.

    @poeticg said:

    Manziel is the future of the NFL...

    So, while I really like Carr and Mack, I think they are both very dangerous and excellent football player that can dominate at their positions, I'm standing across from them this week and convincing myself- Not Today.

    Congrats... You just may have tabbed the best QB in the Class of '14. To date Carr has looked the best.

    ... but saying "Manziel is the future of the NFL" puts your judgment in doubt again... 😉

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  • Gilbert finally started to look like a first-round pick last week. I'd rather have Good Gilbert and a second 1st-rounder next year than the OAK picks.

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown

  • Raiders fan here. When I was a kid, they were great. Not so much for the past decade.

    I have no idea who will win this weekend. After the first games against NY Jets and Houston I was convinced 0-16 was our destination. I have watched NFL football for 40 years and the Raiders were the most inept, disorganized group I recall seeing. Sporano has made a big difference so we have a chance against the Browns.

    -Carr looks like the real deal

    -Our receivers would be twos, threes or deeper on other teams.

    -Worst positions are tight end and middle LB (I don't think our MLB would even be a backup on most NFL teams)

    -secondary decimated by injuries and wasn't exactly all pro to begin with.

    We appear to be playing hard, Sporano has us playing together, we have a few good young players. I think we will win one or two this year...maybe against you guys?

    without looking close it appears Manziel was a wasted pick...what do you guys think?

    Tour2maT jrb12711J 2 Replies

  • I still hate the manziel pick.

  • Wanted Watkins and Carr with our first picks

  • R rhumbob

    Raiders fan here. When I was a kid, they were great. Not so much for the past decade.

    I have no idea who will win this weekend. After the first games against NY Jets and Houston I was convinced 0-16 was our destination. I have watched NFL football for 40 years and the Raiders were the most inept, disorganized group I recall seeing. Sporano has made a big difference so we have a chance against the Browns.

    -Carr looks like the real deal

    -Our receivers would be twos, threes or deeper on other teams.

    -Worst positions are tight end and middle LB (I don't think our MLB would even be a backup on most NFL teams)

    -secondary decimated by injuries and wasn't exactly all pro to begin with.

    We appear to be playing hard, Sporano has us playing together, we have a few good young players. I think we will win one or two this year...maybe against you guys?

    without looking close it appears Manziel was a wasted pick...what do you guys think?

    I don't hate JM at 22... I would have at 4 and at 8.

    @rhumbob said:

    Raiders fan here. When I was a kid, they were great. Not so much for the past decade.

    Many of us here could have written the above.

    As for today's game, I think it really will come down to our O-line vs. your front 7...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • R rhumbob

    Raiders fan here. When I was a kid, they were great. Not so much for the past decade.

    I have no idea who will win this weekend. After the first games against NY Jets and Houston I was convinced 0-16 was our destination. I have watched NFL football for 40 years and the Raiders were the most inept, disorganized group I recall seeing. Sporano has made a big difference so we have a chance against the Browns.

    -Carr looks like the real deal

    -Our receivers would be twos, threes or deeper on other teams.

    -Worst positions are tight end and middle LB (I don't think our MLB would even be a backup on most NFL teams)

    -secondary decimated by injuries and wasn't exactly all pro to begin with.

    We appear to be playing hard, Sporano has us playing together, we have a few good young players. I think we will win one or two this year...maybe against you guys?

    without looking close it appears Manziel was a wasted pick...what do you guys think?

    @rhumbob said:

    Raiders fan here. When I was a kid, they were great. Not so much for the past decade.

    I have no idea who will win this weekend. After the first games against NY Jets and Houston I was convinced 0-16 was our destination. I have watched NFL football for 40 years and the Raiders were the most inept, disorganized group I recall seeing. Sporano has made a big difference so we have a chance against the Browns.

    -Carr looks like the real deal

    -Our receivers would be twos, threes or deeper on other teams.

    -Worst positions are tight end and middle LB (I don't think our MLB would even be a backup on most NFL teams)

    -secondary decimated by injuries and wasn't exactly all pro to begin with.

    We appear to be playing hard, Sporano has us playing together, we have a few good young players. I think we will win one or two this year...maybe against you guys?

    without looking close it appears Manziel was a wasted pick...what do you guys think?

    Thanks for the quick facts, I always root for the Raiders because they are the only team since I've been watching that has had it worse than Cleveland. I wouldn't be surprised if it's another close game, but we all hope the crappy lose last week has them ready today.

    The bottom line with Manziel is it's too early to say anything about being a wasted pick because he hasn't played. Most everyone I've talked to though are more than glad he didn't get the week 1 start.

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