Good article on Brian
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"Average quarterbacks in a system that fits well with talented players and coaches around them can succeed in this league and even win games"
Which talented skill players are surrounding Hoyer? Tate - a fellow career backup averaging 4.0 YPC; Jordan Cameron has had one good game this year; Hawkins, Austin and Gabriel? In total wanted by about 1 team.
I'm not saying Hoyer is Brady or Rodgers, making any supporting cast look great, but it's unfair to say he's surrounded by pro-bowl calibre players and is just letting them do the work.
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Hoyer has won 66% of his matches as a Browns starter, he's getting very harshly treated by the Browns fans on here and elsewhere at the moment.
If we struggle the next two games then yes he will have questions to answer but he deserves his place
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Hoyer has won 66% of his matches as a Browns starter, he's getting very harshly treated by the Browns fans on here and elsewhere at the moment.
If we struggle the next two games then yes he will have questions to answer but he deserves his place
Hoyer has won 66% of his matches as a Browns starter, he's getting very harshly treated by the Browns fans on here and elsewhere at the moment.
If we struggle the next two games then yes he will have questions to answer but he deserves his place
OP isn't a browns fans. He's a manziel fluffer.
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"Average quarterbacks in a system that fits well with talented players and coaches around them can succeed in this league and even win games"
Which talented skill players are surrounding Hoyer? Tate - a fellow career backup averaging 4.0 YPC; Jordan Cameron has had one good game this year; Hawkins, Austin and Gabriel? In total wanted by about 1 team.
I'm not saying Hoyer is Brady or Rodgers, making any supporting cast look great, but it's unfair to say he's surrounded by pro-bowl calibre players and is just letting them do the work.
I don't think it's the world-class receiving corps but they are adequate. I think the talent that surrounds Brian Hoyer is, was, one of the best offensive lines in the league and 3 very very good running backs. Gave him the opportunity to throw fewer passes. Also made the defense look both ways before they cross the street. Without the run it's a one way street."Average quarterbacks in a system that fits well with talented players and coaches around them can succeed in this league and even win games"
Which talented skill players are surrounding Hoyer? Tate - a fellow career backup averaging 4.0 YPC; Jordan Cameron has had one good game this year; Hawkins, Austin and Gabriel? In total wanted by about 1 team.
I'm not saying Hoyer is Brady or Rodgers, making any supporting cast look great, but it's unfair to say he's surrounded by pro-bowl calibre players and is just letting them do the work.
WSS
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I agree, it's the OL that's the real strength of this team on O - as it should have been for a while now. Adequate receivers, RBs that fit the system, and a lot of QBs would do very well in this offense.
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- 34th in Completion Percentage
- 18th in Passing Yards/Game
- 22nd in QBR
- 23rd in Passer Rating
- 25th in Touchdowns
WHILE PLAYING AGAINST THE FOLLOWING PASS DEFENSES
- Ravens 24th
- Saints 28th
- Titans 21st
- Steelers 13th
- Steelers 13th
- Jaguars 30th
For a collective:
21.5 Ranked Passing Defense (Bottom 30% of the league)(Despite each team having played a lower half QB in Hoyer, Steelers twice)
POWER RANKINGS OF TEAMS PLAYED
9 (L)
15 (L)
15 (W)
22 (W)
28 (W) Nice Comeback!
31 (L)
at 29 years old.
One bad game?
Ok.
To go with his (I'm being nice) mediocre ones?
Congrats!
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^^That's actually a pretty fair post TXDawg. Here's what I know for sure and I've said in other threads: If Hoyer goes out and stinks it up like he did in Jax, the johnny rumbles will start in a hurry.
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^^That's actually a pretty fair post TXDawg. Here's what I know for sure and I've said in other threads: If Hoyer goes out and stinks it up like he did in Jax, the johnny rumbles will start in a hurry.
^^That's actually a pretty fair post TXDawg. Here's what I know for sure and I've said in other threads: If Hoyer goes out and stinks it up like he did in Jax, the johnny rumbles will start in a hurry.
I say (and therefore it's fact) he has 3 bad games before Johnny gets serious playing time. One vs Jags has been used up. You could argue 8/17 vs Titans could qualify, but we got the win because he completed deep passes on PA.
If the line doesn't hold up without Mack, expect Manziel in there before season's end.
Just my 2p.
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If our playoff chances are over we should start Jonny whatever Hoyer has done, need to see if he's good enough for us to pass on a QB next year.
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Here's one key quote that shows that the author of Stocky's "good read" (translation, "I agree with the premise and conclusions") is not paying attention.
"While standing behind the best offensive line in football, Hoyer was able to take a luxurious amount of time to allow receivers to get open, never once worrying about the pressure."
Anyone who has watched Hoyer knows that his greatest quality is getting the ball out quickly and in time. It is what Shanny's offense demands and it is what Hoyer has delivered.
And the guess the QB game was way too easy... obviously Hoyer's stats were going to be the worst...
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