2015 draft.
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It'd be lovely to have "A List" players at every position, but that's not how this business works. Dansby is very good, Kirsky seems good for a rookie and also the competition seems to be helping Robertson.
Not Suh. Someone with his disruptive ability. Haven't seen it from Taylor/Rubin - either through lack of ability, or lack of availability, neither has been a big factor for us.
Buffalo had 30+ sacks from their DL last year in Pettine's system, more than the LBs. I think it's fair to say he's expecting more from ours.
1) Of course I know there might not be an A list prospect out there in every draft at every position...although I have a suspicion that there might be another Ray Lewis type out there who's coming out at the end of the season, we'll see. He's one of those guys, like Ray, that won't have monster college stats that necessitate a top 10 pick. He might be able to be had late in the 1st round or early 2nd.
2) That was more of a 4-3 in Buffalo. He did run a hybrid there but I thought I read when we first hired Pettine that he ran more base 43 looks which is why people were complaining about hiring a guy who might yet again change our defensive philosophy. Our guys were plenty disruptive last year cause Horton lined up in the gaps. We got away with it cause we had better LB'er play last year against the run. This year our guys cover a little better but they are utterly disastrous against stopping the run.
1) Of course I know there might not be an A list prospect out there in every draft at every position...although I have a suspicion that there might be another Ray Lewis type out there who's coming out at the end of the season, we'll see. He's one of those guys, like Ray, that won't have monster college stats that necessitate a top 10 pick. He might be able to be had late in the 1st round or early 2nd.
2) That was more of a 4-3 in Buffalo. He did run a hybrid there but I thought I read when we first hired Pettine that he ran more base 43 looks which is why people were complaining about hiring a guy who might yet again change our defensive philosophy. Our guys were plenty disruptive last year cause Horton lined up in the gaps. We got away with it cause we had better LB'er play last year against the run. This year our guys cover a little better but they are utterly disastrous against stopping the run.
1) Unfortunately that may have been Luke Kuechly, or CJ Mosley. Of course we can hopefully pick up a steal, but then that's the case at any position for any team.
2) A hybrid 34/43, mostly, which is (I believe) similar to what we're running this year. Gotta believe, if he got 31 sacks from his DL when playing a 43, he'd stick with that more often than not. My guess is the sacks were split more evenly between true DL (big fat guys) and pass rushers (DE/OLB - Mario Williams?).
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And damn, Kiko Alonso. Forgot about him.
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BPA
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BPA
BPA
Pretty much. Of course, there are exceptions, like I don't see us taking a QB, CB or a safety with our top pick. But generally, this team doesn't have many players you can say can't be upgraded.
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Nonsense aside, I'd like the Browns to take a serious run at Justin Houston in free agency. Young, healthy and one of the best at his position.
Only other OLB I can think of would be that kid from Clemson but he's barely 240. He, might like Mingo would have to be protected on early run downs but he's a much more natural pass rusher from that stand up spot.
All the LB talk warms my heart...
IMO we don't need a "top" O-line prospect... as in 1st round. Hopefully Farmer still has the map to the well he drew Bito from...
Nonsense aside, I'd like the Browns to take a serious run at Justin Houston in free agency. Young, healthy and one of the best at his position.
Only other OLB I can think of would be that kid from Clemson but he's barely 240. He, might like Mingo would have to be protected on early run downs but he's a much more natural pass rusher from that stand up spot.
Expensive, but worth it. Very consistent production through his rookie contract. But I'm not seeing a UGA Georgian moving to NE Ohio.
The Clemson OLB is Beasley. Looks to be the only 1st round prospect outside or inside as of now. However, there are some interesting prospects in the pack like Oregon's Washington and Stanford's Vaughters (sp?).
Then there are the underclassmen who might come out... including Mississippi St's McKinney.
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The OLB for Washington is getting 1-2nd round grades and leads the nation with 14.5 sacks, 19.5 TFL, 2 forced fumbles, 2 passes broken up
Hau'oli Kikaha

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Hey assholes, it's week 9. Save this shit for February.
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Hey assholes, it's week 9. Save this shit for February.
Hey assholes, it's week 9. Save this shit for February.
This is Cleveland, draft talk is in play 24/7 365
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The OLB for Washington is getting 1-2nd round grades and leads the nation with 14.5 sacks, 19.5 TFL, 2 forced fumbles, 2 passes broken up
Hau'oli Kikaha

The OLB for Washington is getting 1-2nd round grades and leads the nation with 14.5 sacks, 19.5 TFL, 2 forced fumbles, 2 passes broken up
Hau'oli Kikaha

Hmm. I'm watching some of his tape on youtube right now from 2013. Nothing really that jumps out at me. I'll see if I can find some of his current season material.
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Hey assholes, it's week 9. Save this shit for February.
Hey assholes, it's week 9. Save this shit for February.
My thoughts exactly.
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Hey assholes, it's week 9. Save this shit for February.
This is Cleveland, draft talk is in play 24/7 365
This is Cleveland, draft talk is in play 24/7 365
Teams with winning records don't talk about the draft this early.
You'll have to wait a bit to get on your knees for a new flavor of the month.
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For those of you who hate the draft talk this early do you not think that the Browns FO is currently scouting players? I know many think that talking about the draft can be seen as giving up on the season, I think of it evaluating players during the season rather than waiting for the end of the season. No one is talking about blowing up the roster and starting over, we are talking about adding complementary pieces to our existing roster and replacing players that very well could leave in the offseason.
I definitely see WR as probably the top position of interest for the draft. Seeing what Watkins has done I think we definitely have to be looking at Amari Cooper from 'Bama or Fuchess (sp?) out of Michigan. DE/OLB would probably be next on my list, I have a feeling that Sheard is going to leave.
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IF sheard leaves then we should make a run at Houston. Problem is we'll have a lot of cash tied up at both OLB spots. I don't see any big time DE/OLB type in this draft either. Hard to say we don't need OL though. We haven't drafted high at OL since JT and it shows. We need something on that line and it either has to come from FA or from the draft. If there's the same type of talent out there next year as there was this past draft...we don't have a choice but to draft OL. The right side of that line cannot be ignored any longer.
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Why aren't you working for our FO? Someone this brilliant doesn't have a job in the NFL? gtfo
Browns will need a TE in 2015. Jordan Cameron is going to want way more money than what he is worth. So your little bitch ass comment is kinda funny to me in a topic where my post not only makes sense it will probaly happen fag. Just be nice you stupid fucking tool whos dad probaly crys every day when he wakes up because he is so disappointed in the piece of shit that didnt run down his wifes inner thigh when they were getting a towel to clean up post sex messes.
But I would be happy with OL and D-lineman in the 1st round next year.
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Why aren't you working for our FO? Someone this brilliant doesn't have a job in the NFL? gtfo
Browns will need a TE in 2015. Jordan Cameron is going to want way more money than what he is worth. So your little bitch ass comment is kinda funny to me in a topic where my post not only makes sense it will probaly happen fag. Just be nice you stupid fucking tool whos dad probaly crys every day when he wakes up because he is so disappointed in the piece of shit that didnt run down his wifes inner thigh when they were getting a towel to clean up post sex messes.
But I would be happy with OL and D-lineman in the 1st round next year.
Browns will need a TE in 2015. Jordan Cameron is going to want way more money than what he is worth. So your little bitch ass comment is kinda funny to me in a topic where my post not only makes sense it will probaly happen fag. Just be nice you stupid fucking tool whos dad probaly crys every day when he wakes up because he is so disappointed in the piece of shit that didnt run down his wifes inner thigh when they were getting a towel to clean up post sex messes.
But I would be happy with OL and D-lineman in the 1st round next year.
From Mik to this Doofus,
This board is full of posters nuttier than a rat in a tin shit house.
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Browns will need a TE in 2015. Jordan Cameron is going to want way more money than what he is worth. So your little bitch ass comment is kinda funny to me in a topic where my post not only makes sense it will probaly happen fag. Just be nice you stupid fucking tool whos dad probaly crys every day when he wakes up because he is so disappointed in the piece of shit that didnt run down his wifes inner thigh when they were getting a towel to clean up post sex messes.
But I would be happy with OL and D-lineman in the 1st round next year.
From Mik to this Doofus,
This board is full of posters nuttier than a rat in a tin shit house.
From Mik to this Doofus,
This board is full of posters nuttier than a rat in a tin shit house.
And what are you? A dwarf amungst Midgets??
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Browns will need a TE in 2015. Jordan Cameron is going to want way more money than what he is worth. So your little bitch ass comment is kinda funny to me in a topic where my post not only makes sense it will probaly happen fag. Just be nice you stupid fucking tool whos dad probaly crys every day when he wakes up because he is so disappointed in the piece of shit that didnt run down his wifes inner thigh when they were getting a towel to clean up post sex messes.
But I would be happy with OL and D-lineman in the 1st round next year.
From Mik to this Doofus,
This board is full of posters nuttier than a rat in a tin shit house.
From Mik to this Doofus,
This board is full of posters nuttier than a rat in a tin shit house.

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