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  • Manzier ManzierM
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    ManzierM Manzier wrote on last edited by Manzier
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    Listening to Ray Farmers press conf today was interesting. He rarely says much, but it seems like there were some pretty interesting comments. This is my "between the lines" interpretation:

    On Hoyer and his contract: Very limited praise for Hoyer or his play. Was kind of non committal on everything Brian. Said he likes the wins, his attitude and his work ethic. Nothing specific about his play. Said the Browns will wait and see on his contract and then made the point that his home town/nice guy status wont earn him points(wow) & Hmmmm. Then, when asked about next year, just said right now JFF was under contract and Hoyer wasn't. True, but Hmmm. Odd answer again. Not once did he suggest they were planning or trying or wanting to sign Hoyer. He's certainly said otherwise with other players. Alex Mack quickly jumps to mind.

    On Josh Gordons Return: Again. Very non commital on when or if we'll see him. Why? Then said for him to play "he has to fit in and earn the playing time". Also talked about how players gotta fit the team and the plan etc. Almost as if he ISNT in our long term plans. Just my take.

    On Mike Pettines performance: Very animated and basically said he loves him. Offered high praise, actually calling him "awesome". He wouldn't come out of the box like this unless it was true. Pettine will be here for a while. 🙂

    Mike Pettine on Greg Littles comments: He said "I would be more concerned if it had come from any other player". Oh my. Aahahahaha

    On Josh Cribbs: It aint gonna happen. First, when asked by Grossi, he said " Cribbs? I think Ive heard of him". But not in a sarcastic way. More of a no respect way(to me). Then said it wasnt gonna happen. That they would have to cut someone who helps in multiple areas, just to keep a one dimensional player. So, we can shelf that idea

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      bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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      Probably can't say too much about Hoyer and his contract, I mean what is he supposed to do at this point. Ditto with Gordon, but of course that's the two things everybody wants to know 😛

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        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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        According to Haslam, both Farmer and Pettine report directly to him. So why would he make a comment on Pettine?

        "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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          According to Haslam, both Farmer and Pettine report directly to him. So why would he make a comment on Pettine?

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          bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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          @diehardbrownsfan said:

          According to Haslam, both Farmer and Pettine report directly to him. So why would he make a comment on Pettine?

          It'd be a little strange (and concerning) if Farmer and Pettine had nothing to do with each other

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            @diehardbrownsfan said:

            According to Haslam, both Farmer and Pettine report directly to him. So why would he make a comment on Pettine?

            It'd be a little strange (and concerning) if Farmer and Pettine had nothing to do with each other

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            DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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            @bbedward said:

            It'd be a little strange (and concerning) if Farmer and Pettine had nothing to do with each other

            No shit sherlock, I was referring to it was sounding as if Farmer was his boss, he isn't.

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              @bbedward said:

              It'd be a little strange (and concerning) if Farmer and Pettine had nothing to do with each other

              No shit sherlock, I was referring to it was sounding as if Farmer was his boss, he isn't.

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              bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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              @diehardbrownsfan said:

              No shit sherlock, I was referring to it was sounding as if Farmer was his boss, he isn't.

              Whoa easy boi. It sounds as if Farmer has an opinion on Pettine, and it's a positive one. Should he not have an opinion on Pettine?

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                C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                It seems to me Hoyer "may" have soured the front office towards him with the contract negotiations. I think his agent is asking for ridiculous money and there may really have been some talk about a Manziel being out of town stipulation. Just my suspicion, we'll see how it plays out. As much as I like Hoyer, if he was trying to strong arm the Browns in any way...especially as it pertains to his backup situation, than I dunno. It definitely sounds like the honeymoon with Hoyer is over and now they're being serious.

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                  miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by miktoxic
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                  the agent's put these players in awkward situations although the player has to agree with the play.

                  dangerous game of poker for hoyer to play as both lines are starting to fall from the injury bug. not being able to get us to at least 9 wins will hurt his bargaining power IMO (even though it'd be four wins better than any other QB in the past 6 years).

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                    Opal312O Opal312 wrote on last edited by
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                    Why doesn't someone ask the great Farmer why he stubbornly passed on Sammy Watkins, Mike Evans, Odell Beckham Jr., Kelvin Benjamin and Martavis Bryant. He did draft a quarterback and a corner in the first round without any reservations. How about the future of this team? He could have insured it with a solid receiver just in case of injuries. This GM reeks of arrogance and small mindedness.

                    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
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                      P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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                      Lol like you know....

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                        L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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                        O line currently struggling without Mack and you're complaining we didn't take receivers like Watkins, Evans (two win Tampa), Beckham (injury woes) and Benjamin (drop issues) ahead of Bitonio?

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                          B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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                          I like Farmer's personality, seems like a guy who can get his point across. Whether or not he's a good personnel guy will be known 3-5 years from now.

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                            I like Farmer's personality, seems like a guy who can get his point across. Whether or not he's a good personnel guy will be known 3-5 years from now.

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                            ManzierM Manzier wrote on last edited by
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                            @baconhound said:

                            I like Farmer's personality, seems like a guy who can get his point across. Whether or not he's a good personnel guy will be known 3-5 years from now.

                            I agree and am surprised that anybody cant be happy with this guy compared to what we had before. No reason NOT to..

                            Where were we a year ago? Banner Lombardi?

                            Lombardi Farmer Lombardi Farmer.

                            No brainer.

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                              bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                              I'm happy with him, it's too early to judge his first draft fairly like some are doing, but there's a lot of contributors already.

                              I like the way our team is coming together, only gonna get better.

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                                miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                shoulda picked WR at 22 BUT we needed a QB of the future. if we make it to 500. or above this year i'm happy considering all the injuries to key personnel.

                                there'll be plenty of WRs next year. i think the injuries to DL and OL will have changed farmer's direction for next year, but i guarantee you there'll be a WR or two in his plans.

                                btw can people stop the bitching about watkins? and when did drafting a WR GUARANTEE the future of any team?

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                                  shoulda picked WR at 22 BUT we needed a QB of the future. if we make it to 500. or above this year i'm happy considering all the injuries to key personnel.

                                  there'll be plenty of WRs next year. i think the injuries to DL and OL will have changed farmer's direction for next year, but i guarantee you there'll be a WR or two in his plans.

                                  btw can people stop the bitching about watkins? and when did drafting a WR GUARANTEE the future of any team?

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                                  Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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                                  @miktoxic said:

                                  btw can people stop the bitching about watkins? and when did drafting a WR GUARANTEE the future of any team?

                                  I know it stopped guaranteeing future success right around the time the Browns drafted Braylon Edwards #3 overall.

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                                    According to Haslam, both Farmer and Pettine report directly to him. So why would he make a comment on Pettine?

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                                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                    @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                    According to Haslam, both Farmer and Pettine report directly to him. So why would he make a comment on Pettine?

                                    Because he was asked? Nothing wrong with talking about a co-worker... as long as it's positive.

                                    To say Farmer was effusive in his praise of Pettine would be an understatement calling him "smart" and "a leader" among other things. And then saying, "I'm all in on Pettine."

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                                      I like Farmer's personality, seems like a guy who can get his point across. Whether or not he's a good personnel guy will be known 3-5 years from now.

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                                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                                      @baconhound said:

                                      I like Farmer's personality, seems like a guy who can get his point across. Whether or not he's a good personnel guy will be known 3-5 years from now.

                                      Agree...

                                      The one thought that occurred to me was "Farmer could be an HC." He has that kind of presence...

                                      Only "odd" bit was the Gordon segment. It was as if Farmer was walking on eggshells there.

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                                        @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                        No shit sherlock, I was referring to it was sounding as if Farmer was his boss, he isn't.

                                        Whoa easy boi. It sounds as if Farmer has an opinion on Pettine, and it's a positive one. Should he not have an opinion on Pettine?

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                                        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                        @bbedward said:

                                        Whoa easy boi. It sounds as if Farmer has an opinion on Pettine, and it's a positive one. Should he not have an opinion on Pettine?

                                        I'm pretty sure they will have positive opinions on each other in public.

                                        "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                          Farmer was correct to not take a WR in the first or second.

                                          WR is useful between 2-5 plays per game.. other than catches, WR is a shiny hood ornament.

                                          The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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