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  • We need Tom Tupa W
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    W We need Tom Tupa wrote on last edited by
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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/foot...s.ap/index.html

    JACKSONVILLE, Fla. (AP) -- The Jacksonville Jaguars have released running back Fred Taylor, the latest move in the team's makeover.

    Taylor was scheduled to make about $6 million next season, so getting rid of the 11-year veteran was no surprise since he had clearly become the second option behind Maurice Jones-Drew.

    The Jaguars might try to re-sign the 33-year-old back. But Taylor has made it clear he still believes he can be a starter in the NFL.

    Taylor is 16th on the NFL's all-time rushing list with 11,271 yards, 81 behind John Riggins. He had 556 yards on the ground last season, splitting time with Jones-Drew, and averaged a career-low 3.9 yards a carry behind an injury-riddled offensive line.

    The Jaguars released veterans Jerry Porter and Drayton Florence last week.

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    • WPB Dawg Fan W
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      W WPB Dawg Fan wrote on last edited by
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      Interesting...sign him...release Lewis and/or rework his contract. Go into the season with 3 RB's and not have to use a pick this year.

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      • Mark O Mark OM Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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        Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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        A lot of miles on those legs and he really does have a problem staying healthy. I'd stay away from him.

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        • We need Tom Tupa W
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          W We need Tom Tupa wrote on last edited by
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          Doesnt look like Jax will be re-signing him:

          Michael C. Wright of the Florida Times-Union reports that former Jaguars running back Fred Taylor offered to take a pay cut in order to remain with the team, but that the team said no.

          “We offered to take a pay cut, but their decision was made,” Taylor told Wright. “They wanted to go young was their reply.”

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          http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/02/16/...take-a-pay-cut/

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          • W We need Tom Tupa

            Doesnt look like Jax will be re-signing him:

            Michael C. Wright of the Florida Times-Union reports that former Jaguars running back Fred Taylor offered to take a pay cut in order to remain with the team, but that the team said no.

            “We offered to take a pay cut, but their decision was made,” Taylor told Wright. “They wanted to go young was their reply.”

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            http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/02/16/...take-a-pay-cut/

            ITHIKA ITHIKAI Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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            ITHIKAI ITHIKA wrote on last edited by
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            @we-need-tom-tupa said:

            Doesnt look like Jax will be re-signing him:

            http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/02/16/...take-a-pay-cut/

            Fred has way too many miles and we've already got Lewis who is in the same boat. Drayton Florence however would be a great fit for a nickel corner in our defense, he's tall, strong and a pretty good man coverage guy.

            On the running back front we really need to draft Greene, McCoy or Jennings in rounds 2 through 4 to fill our need at RB. The role I'd like to see Lewis in is a situational back thats used in sort yardage situations, even though I'm not sure that garners his price tag for this season.

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            • Erie Dawg Erie DawgE
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              Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on last edited by
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              To many miles as was stated and we would be better off if we kept Jamal Lewis compared to Taylor.

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                S Snatch98 wrote on last edited by
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                You guys kill me. Why would you want another on the back end of their career other team cast off? Isn't Willie McGinest enough?

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                • ITHIKAI ITHIKA

                  @we-need-tom-tupa said:

                  Doesnt look like Jax will be re-signing him:

                  http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/02/16/...take-a-pay-cut/

                  Fred has way too many miles and we've already got Lewis who is in the same boat. Drayton Florence however would be a great fit for a nickel corner in our defense, he's tall, strong and a pretty good man coverage guy.

                  On the running back front we really need to draft Greene, McCoy or Jennings in rounds 2 through 4 to fill our need at RB. The role I'd like to see Lewis in is a situational back thats used in sort yardage situations, even though I'm not sure that garners his price tag for this season.

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                  S Snatch98 wrote on last edited by
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                  @ithika said:

                  Fred has way too many miles and we've already got Lewis who is in the same boat. Drayton Florence however would be a great fit for a nickel corner in our defense, he's tall, strong and a pretty good man coverage guy.

                  On the running back front we really need to draft Greene, McCoy or Jennings in rounds 2 through 4 to fill our need at RB. The role I'd like to see Lewis in is a situational back thats used in sort yardage situations, even though I'm not sure that garners his price tag for this season.

                  Most have McCoy going round 1.

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                    @inspecta said:

                    I dunno, this guy was called Fragile Freddy for a long time for a reason.

                    Yes and he was also the ONLY back for the longest time.

                    No one holds up taking that kind of abuse year in and out.

                    3 seasons until our new head coach, let's hope they get it right this time.
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                      Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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                      @inspecta said:

                      I dunno, this guy was called Fragile Freddy for a long time for a reason.

                      He's also 12th on the all time rushing list being so Fragile, which in turn could make him Fragile..... Interesting.

                      Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                      • Rooster Dick Rooster DickR
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                        Rooster DickR Rooster Dick wrote on last edited by
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                        Freddy may be fragile, but the guy can still run. We have a running back who CAN'T run. Pretty big difference. I'm not saying Fred is a workhorse #1 back, but he could be explosive in a platoon role. What kind of money is he looking for?

                        The browns seriously need to remove Jamal Lewis from the team. I don't care how much heart he has... he's just not up to today's standards of a running back.

                        Fred put up some big numbers at the end of 07 season, and I'm betting after a light load last season, he's in for a few more.

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                        • Mr. T Mr. TM
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                          Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by
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                          @inspecta said:

                          I dunno, this guy was called Fragile Freddy for a long time for a reason.

                          We can call him Old Fart Freddy, he needs to retire or sign with the Bengals.

                          Head or Gut?
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                            C Chicopee John wrote on last edited by
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                            @inspecta said:

                            I dunno, this guy was called Fragile Freddy for a long time for a reason.

                            I hear you, Inspecta.

                            However, look at his stats. To a certain extent his penchant for injuries was overstated.

                            To me, he would be a nice pickup for a team on the cusp. He could put a team over the top - maybe a team that sees it's window of opportunity closing.

                            IMHO, a young team like the Browns need a young and up and coming RB to add explosivness to an offense that might put up a lot of points next season.

                            Fred Taylor = HOF.

                            "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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                            • Mr. T Mr. TM
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                              Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by
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                              I wonder if we can pay him as much as a tackling dummy costs?

                              Head or Gut?
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                                ? mz. wrote on last edited by
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                                For me, as a pure stopgap, he's much better than Jamal Lewis. Last year's Jamal was one of the worst RB performances I've seen in awhile, and Taylor still had enough left to steal carries from stud RB MJD.

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                                • Mark O Mark OM Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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                                  Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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                                  I'd rather find the next Fred Taylor in the draft or via FA then bring in an old Fred Taylor who will collect paychecks standing in street clothes on the sidelines.

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                                    For me, as a pure stopgap, he's much better than Jamal Lewis. Last year's Jamal was one of the worst RB performances I've seen in awhile, and Taylor still had enough left to steal carries from stud RB MJD.

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                                    mz. said:

                                    For me, as a pure stopgap, he's much better than Jamal Lewis. Last year's Jamal was one of the worst RB performances I've seen in awhile, and Taylor still had enough left to steal carries from stud RB MJD.

                                    From a pure talent perspective, you may be right about Taylor being an upgrade. But we're already on the hook for JLew's $2.4M base salary (which is guaranteed), and I don't think Taylor would bring the same veteran leadership to the locker room that Jamal does.

                                    If Jamal agrees to reduce his roster bonus, I think he'd be a better option than Taylor.

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                                      plumcrazy73P plumcrazy73 wrote on last edited by
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                                      Tell Jamal restructure or you are gone, make his contract where he can make up the difference in the old deal and new deal through incentives, performance based incentives.

                                      “What Can BROWN Do For You!” Record for the year. 9-7 + or - 1 and not being swept by any team in the division.
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                                        T Tobalaz wrote on last edited by Tobalaz
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                                        Don't get me wrong, I love Fred. I don't think anyone could have carried the load he did for as long as he did and held up better in the modern NFL.

                                        I just don't want to see him here.

                                        We've already got too much dead weight sucking cap and he's not going to be a big enough upgrade over Lewis to Eat the bonus and sign him.

                                        We need to draft young and move on.

                                        After all, RB is a renewable resource, you want a new one every 3-4 drafts as the older ones break down.

                                        The days of 1 back are dead, and wasting a high pick on a guy that you're going to be lucky to get 6 good years out of is just insane.

                                        And...

                                        IF Fred was willing to take a paycut to stick around and he was cut anyways you KNOW something has to be wrong.

                                        3 seasons until our new head coach, let's hope they get it right this time.
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                                          sisky fringoS sisky fringo wrote on last edited by sisky fringo
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                                          Jamal's career has perennially overshadowed Taylor's and it hasn't been by accident or imagination.

                                          Taylor is entering his 12th year and has 11,271 yards all time at an avg of 1,024 per. His 2001 season he only has 116 yards so to be fair he had an avg of 1,127 in 10 years.

                                          JLew has 10,107 yards in 8 years, an avg of 1,263 yards per year and putting him on pace to have 13,897 after his 11th season (if he has one).

                                          Jamal came in light last season, a calculated risk that blew up in his face.

                                          Still, he's cheaper, younger, still fast, still durable, they both have heart and drive but.....can Fred move the pile in the AFCN vs the casey hamptons and the Haloti Ngatas? Jamal burnt that Cincy secondary 20 lbs heavier in '07.

                                          If Jamal's age is a problem someone 4 years his elder obviously can't be a solution. I see pitter-patter-tippy-toe playing awesome on real grass, especially in the snow and muck. He's faster than he looks and he can catch when the ball's not behind him. As a thunder compliment to lightning he still gets it done.

                                          Frankly Jamal's a bargain by Fred Taylor standards.

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