Connor Shaw
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expect two things from shaw (if your fo ever lets him play)
wins, and a low amount of ints
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LOL that was good steve
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No matter how you slice it, it's pretty sad looking at the QB situation week 1 that we'll be likely starting 3 QB's again this year.
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I would love Shaw to be our Tom Brady, lord knows we could use that.
Not holding my breath obviously.
I would love Shaw to be our Tom Brady, lord knows we could use that.
Not holding my breath obviously.
^This. All hopes and dreams, but for now that's all we have, isn't it?
No matter how you slice it, it's pretty sad looking at the QB situation week 1 that we'll be likely starting 3 QB's again this year.
Hey, it's holiday tradition that we are forced to start the 3rd string QB by season's end!
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Randall Cobb... T. Y. Hilton....Odell Beckham, Jr. ...
need dynamic wr playmakers. Don't have any. Except Gordon, who
is a knucklehead.
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TimCouch blah blah
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I just listed the first three that came to mind, about players we need to get on this team next year.
It's nice to know you know that the wr's have to have a qb that can throw them the ball. Bout time you came around, eh?
Injuries, and qb play, and lack of intuitive wr play, are holding this offense back. One of the ex football guys said the Browns
wrs weren't doing anything to help out their qb. And one of the wr's earlier in the year, obviously not Gordon, admitted it wasn't all
the qb, that they were making mistakes. Need smarter, instinctive wr's. And injuries to the Browns first two centers hurt the Browns alot.
The offense has lost it's confidence. And losing Taylor and Hughes and Haden....
and apparently needing a new special teams coach... or smarter players. Gordon nearly cost the Browns a TD on that pass
to Cameron, by coming close to holding a defensive player that wasn't going to catch him anyways.
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Randall Cobb... T. Y. Hilton....Odell Beckham, Jr. ...
need dynamic wr playmakers. Don't have any. Except Gordon, who
is a knucklehead.
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TimCouch blah blah
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I just listed the first three that came to mind, about players we need to get on this team next year.
It's nice to know you know that the wr's have to have a qb that can throw them the ball. Bout time you came around, eh?
Injuries, and qb play, and lack of intuitive wr play, are holding this offense back. One of the ex football guys said the Browns
wrs weren't doing anything to help out their qb. And one of the wr's earlier in the year, obviously not Gordon, admitted it wasn't all
the qb, that they were making mistakes. Need smarter, instinctive wr's. And injuries to the Browns first two centers hurt the Browns alot.
The offense has lost it's confidence. And losing Taylor and Hughes and Haden....
and apparently needing a new special teams coach... or smarter players. Gordon nearly cost the Browns a TD on that pass
to Cameron, by coming close to holding a defensive player that wasn't going to catch him anyways.
Randall Cobb... T. Y. Hilton....Odell Beckham, Jr. ...
need dynamic wr playmakers. Don't have any. Except Gordon, who
is a knucklehead.
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TimCouch blah blah
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I just listed the first three that came to mind, about players we need to get on this team next year.
It's nice to know you know that the wr's have to have a qb that can throw them the ball. Bout time you came around, eh?
Injuries, and qb play, and lack of intuitive wr play, are holding this offense back. One of the ex football guys said the Browns
wrs weren't doing anything to help out their qb. And one of the wr's earlier in the year, obviously not Gordon, admitted it wasn't all
the qb, that they were making mistakes. Need smarter, instinctive wr's. And injuries to the Browns first two centers hurt the Browns alot.
The offense has lost it's confidence. And losing Taylor and Hughes and Haden....
and apparently needing a new special teams coach... or smarter players. Gordon nearly cost the Browns a TD on that pass
to Cameron, by coming close to holding a defensive player that wasn't going to catch him anyways.
#4-Blake Bortles- QB- UCF
Of course I would have this. Bortles is a prototypical NFL QB in terms of size and intangibles. He's played with a chip on his shoulder since not being heavily recruited out of high school. He is sneaky mobile and makes plays out of nothing. But he has issues with his footwork which affect his mechanics, accuracy and power. His skill set fits in Shanahan's moving pocket, play action offense as Bortles was asked to run a lot of read-option at UCF. He beat big time programs while at UCF, but he was not the focal point of that offense.
#26- Kelvin Benjamin-WR-FSU
With the acquisitions of Burleson and Hawkins, going WR is a bit of a head-scratcher here. Benjamin is a #1 overall draft pick in terms of size and athleticism, however, and him being available at #26 is too good to pass up. If it weren't for concentration issues, Benjamin would be a lock as a Top 5 pick. Pairing Benjamin with Gordon would give the Browns the most athletic WR tandem in the league. Benjamin's size and leaping ability would give Bortles a gigantic red-zone target and his deep play ability will raise the lid of the defense, opening running lanes and the short-intermediate passing game.
#35- Marcus Roberson- CB- UF
Pairing Roberson with Haden would give Cleveland two of the more prolific Gator corners over the last decade. A PCL injury reduced Roberson's snaps while a poor combine performance dropped his draft grade, but Roberson on-tape grades out as a late first round pick in the eyes of most analysts. Roberson is one of the better cover corners in this draft and would excel as a #2 man cover CB.
#71- Christian Jones- ILB- FSU
Jones will go down as one of the best steals of this draft. The name of Jones' game is versatility, which is exactly what Pettine values in defensive players. Seeing snaps at defensive end, inside linebacker and outside linebacker for the Seminoles shows Jones can play anywhere along the LB corps in the NFL. Cleveland has a hole at ILB and Jones would fill it and then some. Jones plays sideline to sideline, has a nose for the ball and knows how to get after the passer.
#83- Antonio Richardson- OT- UT
Tiny Richardson is a day one talent with the ability to play either LT or RT. A knee injury dropped his stock, but Richardson can be a day one starter in the NFL in 2014. Taking Richardson would fill two holes, as it would enable Cleveland to move Mitchell Schwartz inside at G.
However, and I'll say this until the day I die, I think Kelvin Benjamin would have been a great pickup in the late first. He's a player that we could have paired opposite Gordon, a la Marshall/Jeffery in Chicago, and he's also talented enough to be a #1 on his own.
Evans may be the best WR to come out of this draft, but Benjamin would have been a better fit for us and would have come at a better price.
As for WR, I think there are a number of solid prospects we could nab at #26 or in the second, namely Kelvin Benjamin or Allen Robinson. Benjamin's drops are concerning, but he possesses the size to be utilized similar to Alshon Jeffery, a red zone target that beats receivers in the air. Benjamin does everything you'd want, he fights for jump balls, tracks back to the ball, runs decent routes, goes over the middle or outside, and blocks. Unfortunately, he drops easily caught balls and also runs before catching the ball. Benjamin can easily be a #1 receiver and can possibly be had in the second round.
Benjamin is a huge risk/reward receiver. His size is ridiculous as is his athletic talent, but he drops it too often (similar to Little, actually, just three inches taller). But he could turn out to be a very, very good receiver.
Kelvin Benjamin or Allen Robinson would be fantastic picks in the second. Both are large redzone targets, Benjamin at 6'5 has the body to box out defenders and could even be flexed in on 2TE Sets, while Robinson at 6'3 has 40 inches of vert and can literally catch balls thrown over the crossbar.
I think you have me confused for someone else, Cal. was against drafting Watkins. The only receiver I wanted was Benjamin in the late first/early second.
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Ah, I mistook your comment about putting Watkins across from Gordon....
Benjamin had some character flags, but he is quite a player.
Ah, well, next year, with so fewer holes to fill... it should be an interesting draft.
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If Shaw plays and excels, this board owes me a beer! I've been calling his name since pre-season. You can't fake what he has, and that's an ability to sit in the pocket, find the open receiver (through progression), and deliver a strike. While I agree that no QB can play without protection from the O-line, I think making QB plays gets the line motivated. So it's a two way street.
Shaw has worked his tail off while JF thought he could wreck the league by just showing up. My prediction is that we will see the next starting QB in 2015 because Shaw will make a great impression (win or lose)!
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@everlastingxxx said:
Can't believe they are going to start Shaw. Another QB Cleveland is going to ruin by throwing to the wolves too early. Cleveland truly is the QB graveyard.
Allow me to quote the departed Art Modell. "We(I) have no choice." Assuming Hoyer's shoulder is too boogered up. Heck, he got creamed so bad on that one sack against the Panthers- he was spitting up blood. Manziel has a bum hammie. Grossman turned them down. Tyler Thigpen? Are you serious? Andrew Hawkins? Tryouts in the parking lot? Bring Frye and Kosar out of retirement?
If you have a better idea- we're listening. Hmmmm..... I think the Cardinals are on their third string qb too.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Can't believe they are going to start Shaw. Another QB Cleveland is going to ruin by throwing to the wolves too early. Cleveland truly is the QB graveyard.
Allow me to quote the departed Art Modell. "We(I) have no choice." Assuming Hoyer's shoulder is too boogered up. Heck, he got creamed so bad on that one sack against the Panthers- he was spitting up blood. Manziel has a bum hammie. Grossman turned them down. Tyler Thigpen? Are you serious? Andrew Hawkins? Tryouts in the parking lot? Bring Frye and Kosar out of retirement?
If you have a better idea- we're listening. Hmmmm..... I think the Cardinals are on their third string qb too.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Can't believe they are going to start Shaw. Another QB Cleveland is going to ruin by throwing to the wolves too early. Cleveland truly is the QB graveyard.
Who the fuck do you want them to start?
There have only been three guys in the offense all year and two of them are injured.
Wouldn't you rather start the guy you practiced with all year rather than a dude off the street with no practie reps and no future with the team?
He's an undrafted FA, if gets the start he should be lucky to have the chance to start an NFL game.
If you are on an NFL roster, you better be ready to play, there's no "redshirtting", quite being such a wuss.
Zombo
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I want to see Shaw succeed but it will be next to impossible with dumerville and suggs camped out in our backfield all day. Every team out there has been able to penetrate the "ZONE BLOCKING" rendering our run game useless. We will be lucky to get 5 first downs this week. We need some serious upgrades on the OL if shanny is here next year and wants to run the zone blocking. It worked early on until teams figured out they just need to penetrate it and you stop it.
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If Shaw looks good against the Ravens that will just be a bonus. I never want to put much faith in a 3rd string quarterback but I will say his former coach Steve Spurrier sure sings his praises. He may just prove himself to be an excellent back up which any NFL team needs to have. Spurrier compares Shaw to Russell Wilson but every quarterback seems to get compared to Russell Wilson these days.
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he put up great numbers in the most competitive division in college football. My guess is mostly out of the shot gun and not from a pro style offense? We can only hope we find our franchise QB on the streets of UDFA, God knows we can't draft one.
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I'm surprised the Browns were the only team to give Shaw a chance. Anyway I am pulling for him and he seems to have his head squared on and appreciates this opportunity:
"The 6-foot, 206-pound Shaw ran a 4.66-second 40-yard dash at the combine, 0.02 seconds faster than Manziel, and finished his senior season with 24 touchdown passes to one interception, best among FBS quarterbacks. He’s the winningest quarterback in Gamecocks history (27-5). He made a big leap from his junior to senior year in the completion rate of passes beyond 25 yards downfield, from 22.6 percent to 45.9 percent.
The Browns might have no idea what Shaw would do against Baltimore, but the opportunity is what Shaw has wanted since “I was 5 years old.”
“It’s a dream come true if I’m able to start and able to play,” Shaw said. “It’s such a blessing. Such an awesome year for me and my family.”
Shaw and his wife, Molly, whom he calls his high school sweetheart, have a 4-month-old girl named Mila. The Shaws married in June. Two months later, Shaw completed 8-of-9 passes for 123 yards and a touchdown in a preseason game against Washington, securing a practice-squad spot." -
Let's place a ton of hope on Shaw so if he does decently well, we'll have a whole faction of fans calling him the next Tom Brady and if he does bad, we'll have a whole separate faction of fans calling him terrible, practice squad garbage.
How about you just fucking watching the game and stop putting all of your hopes and dreams into one single player?
It's the same shit year after year in here, just different names.
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Let's place a ton of hope on Shaw so if he does decently well, we'll have a whole faction of fans calling him the next Tom Brady and if he does bad, we'll have a whole separate faction of fans calling him terrible, practice squad garbage.
How about you just fucking watching the game and stop putting all of your hopes and dreams into one single player?
It's the same shit year after year in here, just different names.
Let's place a ton of hope on Shaw so if he does decently well, we'll have a whole faction of fans calling him the next Tom Brady and if he does bad, we'll have a whole separate faction of fans calling him terrible, practice squad garbage.
How about you just fucking watching the game and stop putting all of your hopes and dreams into one single player?
It's the same shit year after year in here, just different names.
Sad to say but there is no chance in hell he does good, the problem is not the QB. It's the OL and the scheme. No QB can produce in this zone blocking crap that we run when we don't have the OL to execute.
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