Dansby and Whitner call out Gilbert
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@everlastingxxx said:
Gilbert was a terrible pick. Funny no outrage. Where is Zombo and Tour? Lemmie guess he gets a free pass too.
Doesn't hurt as bad when 2 UFDAs fill in nicely at corner. No such luck at QB unless Shaw turns out to be the next Brady. And comparing QB to CB is laughable. Good effort though.
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@douche-nozzle said:
Nobody in the history of the NFL is a bigger bust than Manziel.
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To release this on twitter is so 'now generation'. Stupid and shows lack of leadership. However leaving that aside, there must be some truth to it. Which is troubling to say the least.
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He's a top 10 pick and the coach sits him down in crunch time because of a shitty attitude?
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Well, I suppose that we should be thankful that Dansby was a bit more optomistic with regards to our rookie QB?
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It looks like most are angry because he "tweeted" this, but as usual OP has the facts skewed....
Does anyone checks facts or sources anymore???
If it makes a difference, these are just words from a conference call - interview where he was asked about Gilbert.
Her's a link to the "whole" story...aka comments.....I dont see anything wrong here....
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/12/karlos_dansby_on_struggling_ro.html
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Thanks for the link Mudfly. I like what Thomas said in this article and it is something I believe as well. Pettine is building a team in Cleveland:
Left tackle Joe Thomas on what Pettine has proven to him in his first season as coach:
"I think he didn't have to prove anything to me, but what I see from him is he's a coach that belongs as an NFL head coach. He's a guy that can lead a team to where it needs to be. He's an outstanding leader and motivator, and I'm really excited to have him next year."
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Thanks for the link Mudfly. I like what Thomas said in this article and it is something I believe as well. Pettine is building a team in Cleveland:
Left tackle Joe Thomas on what Pettine has proven to him in his first season as coach:
"I think he didn't have to prove anything to me, but what I see from him is he's a coach that belongs as an NFL head coach. He's a guy that can lead a team to where it needs to be. He's an outstanding leader and motivator, and I'm really excited to have him next year."
...... I'm really excited to have him next year."
Wonder if that's a message to Jimmy...
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Anytime I have doubts about Haslem I just have to remember Randy Lerner and I get more appreciative of Jimmy Haslem. Lerner had another futbol team he seemed focused on.
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This is serious chit when a leader voice their opinion in a public forum. Gilbert might be a bigger bust than Manziel.
yep. And he could really be a chump that is just getting under Dansbys skin.
I have nothing to base that on....pure conjecture on my part.....but I gotta believe Dansby is taking a swing and it's not just for the heck of it....
Agree, but...yep. And he could really be a chump that is just getting under Dansbys skin.
I have nothing to base that on....pure conjecture on my part.....but I gotta believe Dansby is taking a swing and it's not just for the heck of it....
^This...A good leader would call him out in the locker room or in private.
Of course he could, and I hope he would, have done a face to face first, but with more detail. The tweet is a non-specific "not sure".
I'd be willing to bet my soul it doesn't mean Gilbert will be traded or cut.
If a leader of the team needs to make a point that will get across and requires a bit of public shamming, I've no issue with that.
I, too, would be willing to bet your soul... and I agree with the second bit, if as I wrote above, specifics were previously communicated face to face.
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Everlastingxxx, on 22 Dec 2014 - 11:27 PM, said:
Gilbert was a terrible pick. Funny no outrage. Where is Zombo and Tour? Lemmie guess he gets a free pass too.
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Although you are now likely banished the Phantom zone, I'll respond...
1. I have been critical of Gilbert and disappointed in his progress, but I have also seen flashes from him... and not just the Indy pick 6. Can't say the same about your Johnnykins...
2. You don't do sarcasm well. You should lay off of it. You just come off as a broke dick, butt hurt, ass clown. So if you ever reenter the light, leave that card behind in the zone.
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He's a top 10 pick and the coach sits him down in crunch time because of a shitty attitude?
WSS
it sucks Steve but apparently nothing else gets through this asshole Typical behavior of kids from the timeout generation versus getting your ass whippedHe's a top 10 pick and the coach sits him down in crunch time because of a shitty attitude?
WSS
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Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot 54m54 minutes ago
Mary Kay Cabot@MaryKayCabotPettine on Gilbert, West being benched: "Tough love circumstance. We expect them to hold up their end of the bargain. Nothing is given.''Pettine on Gilbert, West being benched: "Tough love circumstance. We expect them to hold up their end of the bargain. Nothing is given.''
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No. He was injured not benched. That would be Hoyer.
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No. He was injured not benched. That would be Hoyer.
No. He was injured not benched. That would be Hoyer.
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Everlastingxxx, on 22 Dec 2014 - 11:27 PM, said:
Gilbert was a terrible pick. Funny no outrage. Where is Zombo and Tour? Lemmie guess he gets a free pass too.
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Although you are now likely banished the Phantom zone, I'll respond...
1. I have been critical of Gilbert and disappointed in his progress, but I have also seen flashes from him... and not just the Indy pick 6. Can't say the same about your Johnnykins...
2. You don't do sarcasm well. You should lay off of it. You just come off as a broke dick, butt hurt, ass clown. So if you ever reenter the light, leave that card behind in the zone.
Everlastingxxx, on 22 Dec 2014 - 11:27 PM, said:
Gilbert was a terrible pick. Funny no outrage. Where is Zombo and Tour? Lemmie guess he gets a free pass too.
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Although you are now likely banished the Phantom zone, I'll respond...
1. I have been critical of Gilbert and disappointed in his progress, but I have also seen flashes from him... and not just the Indy pick 6. Can't say the same about your Johnnykins...
2. You don't do sarcasm well. You should lay off of it. You just come off as a broke dick, butt hurt, ass clown. So if you ever reenter the light, leave that card behind in the zone.
Was this original post deleted? Not by me.
I would also like to add there haven't been a bunch of "Justin Cocksuckers" pimping him and making excuses for him all year. Most Browns fans are in agreement that while he flashes occasional athletic brilliance, it has been a bit of a lost season for him and we were expecting more this season from the #8 overall. That said, the position as a whole looks in good shape moving forward.
The most important position ... still the biggest question mark.
Zombo
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"It's time to grow up and not be a kid anymore. It's a wasted year for him," Whitner said. "There were so many ups, so many downs -- a lot of it has been brought on by himself. He has to look himself in the mirror like Karlos [Dansby]said, he has to understand what he did wrong, what he needs to get better at, and make sure that you're back here working out from day one when we return here to show everybody you have a good attitude and you want to go out there and be the player they drafted you to be."
This is fucking sad and embarrassing. 4th god damn pick in the draft and instead of Watkins, Evans, Mack, Beckham, Barr, Martin, Mosley and we end up with this guy. Shame on Farmer/Haslam/Pettine for lack of due diligence.
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a day late and a dollar short.................but still hilarious.
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