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49'ers ask for permission to speak to Shanahan

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  • BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd wrote on
    #34

    Why is it, when things start to look better, they get worse. I, and I think all of us, want an owner that is involved. But if this type of stuff is true, I'm not so sure. Granted, I thought the play calling at times was stale and predictive, but Haslam and Farmer need to let the guys do their jobs, and address concerns after games or during the week, not during a football game.

    I love this team, but god damn it they make it hard at times.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/06/report-kyle-shanahan-may-leave-cleveland-over-friction-with-browns/

    Browns offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahanmay be on the way out in Cleveland over issues with some of his fellow coaches and the team’s front office.

    Shanahan is hoping to get a head-coaching job, and he has been mentioned as a candidate for the vacancies in Buffalo and San Francisco. But Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com reports that Shanahan may leave Cleveland even if he doesn’t get a head-coaching gig, because thesituation in Cleveland has become dysfunctional.

    According to the report, the personnel side and the coaching side aren’t seeing eye to eye, and the coaches may have felt pressured to bench Brian Hoyer and startJohnny Manziel, a decision that resulted in an already struggling Cleveland offense getting worse. The report even says that the personnel side is intruding on the coaching side to such an extent that a personnel executive texted from the press box to the sidelines about play calling during a game.

    Shanahan is under contract to the Browns for the 2015 season, and if he wants to leave to become an assistant on another coaching staff, the Browns don’t have to let him go. But if there’s already a toxic atmosphere inside the team, forcing a coach to stay even though he wants to leave probably wouldn’t improve the situation. It may be better for both sides if Shanahan leaves Cleveland.

  • OsirisO Osiris wrote on
    #35

    Given the writer behind this article is MKC, I'm taking it with a grain of salt unless someone else reports it. I agree, though, this team needs stability more than anything else and I'd really just like to see the team develop under one set of coaches for a few years.

    "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #36

    this was already mentioned in another thread.

    the media can dig at raw skin until there's a scar doesn't mean it's true.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    this was already mentioned in another thread.

    the media can dig at raw skin until there's a scar doesn't mean it's true.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #37

    @miktoxic said:

    the media can dig at raw skin until there's a scar doesn't mean it's true.

    Unless of course it's about JM. 😆 :lol:

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  • jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on
    #38

    As I discussed with some of you previously, I'm a firm believer that assuming Manziel starts next year he will not succeed with Shanahan as our OC. I'm not saying he will with someone else, but the guy needs to win or lose in a pro-style offense. Shanahan set him up to fail just as much as Manziel did himself if you ask me and it doesn't seem like he's willing to change. It's one of the things I'd love to eat crow on but in the guys first full start the offensive game plan was as miserable as his INT's. The hit that took him out was a frikin designed QB roll-out run.

  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on
    #39

    Didn't Shanahan have issues like this in D.C. with the ownership and RG3? Either he is unlucky as fuck or he is the constantly whining common denominator.

    DieHardBrownsFanD gftChrisG 2 Replies
  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    Didn't Shanahan have issues like this in D.C. with the ownership and RG3? Either he is unlucky as fuck or he is the constantly whining common denominator.

    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on
    #40

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Didn't Shanahan have issues like this in D.C. with the ownership and RG3? Either he is unlucky as fuck or he is the constantly whining common denominator.

    He looks like a whiney little fuck.

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  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    Didn't Shanahan have issues like this in D.C. with the ownership and RG3? Either he is unlucky as fuck or he is the constantly whining common denominator.

    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on
    #41

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Didn't Shanahan have issues like this in D.C. with the ownership and RG3? Either he is unlucky as fuck or he is the constantly whining common denominator.

    Well if you're looking to get a standard QB without off-field dramas, I'd say getting RG3 and JFF is about as unlucky as you can get.

  • T TexasAg1969

    @miktoxic said:

    the media can dig at raw skin until there's a scar doesn't mean it's true.

    Unless of course it's about JM. 😆 :lol:

    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #42

    @texasag1969 said:

    Unless of course it's about JM. 😆 :lol:

    of course...or Tiny Canadian Pussy Douche.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #43

    ESPN article had this:

    "A Browns front-office source, speaking to ESPN.com's Pat McManamon, questioned the report, calling it "sour grapes" from a disillusioned staff member."

    I figure if anyone is plugged into the sour grape sources, it'd be MKC. And if any Browns staff had their phones on during a game to be annoyed by a text of any kind, they ought to be fired.

    You can't end up a season the way we did without some friction developing in some corner. I have no trouble imagining a divide developing around playing Manziel... don't have to imagine what I've seen here.

    However, if Haslam is anywhere near the executive I think he is, he will be all over this and there will be no repeat. The only disappointment I would then have left is why Pet did not raise the issue earlier and nip it in the proverbial bud.

    @everlastingxxx said:

    Never been a fan of gimmick offenses. If Shanny leaves, the Browns need to bring in a coordinator that likes to stretch the field, more shotgun, faster tempo.

    Isn't the shotgun plus tempo approach "gimmicky"?

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  • C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #44

    I hope we don't have to endure another 1st year offense next year. I heard Charlie Weis's name being thrown around as a possible replacement for SHanny "if" he takes the 9'ers or Bills job. I guess the Browns have already made contact with him. What does Weis run?

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  • W Westside Steve wrote on
    #45
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  • C Clevfan4life

    I hope we don't have to endure another 1st year offense next year. I heard Charlie Weis's name being thrown around as a possible replacement for SHanny "if" he takes the 9'ers or Bills job. I guess the Browns have already made contact with him. What does Weis run?

    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #46

    @clevfan4life said:

    What does Weis run?

    i would guess like a 10.50 40.

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on
    #47

    HA! I'd guess he couldn't run 10 yards let alone 40.

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  • W Westside Steve
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    C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #48

    @westside-steve said:

    oh fucking great, does that mean Haslem was trying to call in plays from the owners box? Fuck me running pls don't let this have any ring of truth to it.

  • C Clevfan4life

    @westside-steve said:

    oh fucking great, does that mean Haslem was trying to call in plays from the owners box? Fuck me running pls don't let this have any ring of truth to it.

    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on
    #49

    @clevfan4life said:

    oh fucking great, does that mean Haslem was trying to call in plays from the owners box? Fuck me running pls don't let this have any ring of truth to it.

    This has already been refuted by a 'source' within the organisation, saying that the person suggesting this just has a case of sour grapes after leaving.

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #50

    well ofc they "have" to refute it. I mean they abs have to.

  • ManzierM Manzier wrote on
    #51

    story says the texts were suggestions and came from a "high ranking staffer in the press box". Haslem isnt a staffer and probably wasn't in the press box. And suggestions are just suggestions.

    Shanahan was making shit calls and we all saw it. So did the staffer in the press box. I know i was screaming some suggestions at my Tv too.

    my guess is that shanahan already knows he's out and thats why all this talk is happening. Hes under contract for 3 years, so the Browns could nip this all in the bud right now if they wanted to.

    Apparently they dont.

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #52

    I was fine with shanny's play calling. Beginning of the season it was working when Hoyer was apparently not Retarded.

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  • bbedwardB bbedward wrote on
    #53

    My guess is we don't mind keeping Shanahan and this is all just blowing up from nothing.

    I think he showed many good things and many bad things. My guess is we wouldn't mind someone else and could prefer it, but only if he takes another job so we don't have to pay him.

    I think Shanahans scheme is pretty good, but the play calling and execution on some of them was questionable.

    People complain about the cuteness of passing of 3rd and short constantly but weren't we still a top 5 team on 3rd and short this year conversion percentage wise?

    If Shanahan could get players that can successfully operate in the ZBS he'd look better, but once Mack went down we lost it.

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