Cardale Jones
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It always was. You are an OSU fan right?
WSS
Yeah, the OSU in Corvallis. I don't give a shit about Ohio State normally but I was flying buckeye flags across the state of Oregon all week. GO BUCKS. Ha ha FUCK THE DUCKS
And by the way don't draft Sean mannion. If you want a Mike Riley OSU qb go get MAtt Moore or DA. Sean mannion ain't in their class.
Yeah, the OSU in Corvallis. I don't give a shit about Ohio State normally but I was flying buckeye flags across the state of Oregon all week. GO BUCKS. Ha ha FUCK THE DUCKS
And by the way don't draft Sean mannion. If you want a Mike Riley OSU qb go get MAtt Moore or DA. Sean mannion ain't in their class.
Lums- great to see you back after a long absence. As Tour said "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." For guys who are relatively new around here- Lumburgh is a diehard OSU (Oregon State) fan. And for the last time- he is NOT Zombo yanking your chain.
Yes Jones did make that dumb comment- but at least he is doing well in his AA studies major.
George C said:
From a business standpoint, and if he were my son, I would have him declare for the draft.
His stock, although very short in history, is incredibly high. High enough where I say someone takes him in the late part of the first round. This is a QB starved league, and if he comes out, I would spend a first because the payoff could be astronomical.
Where do you find that kind of accuracy, that kind of velocity, and that size?
His stock may go higher in college, or it may go down.
What you said. He's no more a risk than Johnny Freaking Flop. Might only be a three game sample- but it was the highest level three game sample you'd ever want to see. I might be an OSU homer- but the qb with the best NFL potential in the Championship game wasn't Mariota. Um the Browns have two first round picks- and if they used one on Cardale- I wouldn't be too particularly upset about it.
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If he does come out.....what would you guys think? not sure i'm willing to spend one of our 1st rounders on him but if things don't look good and we trade down he could be there.
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If he does come out.....what would you guys think? not sure i'm willing to spend one of our 1st rounders on him but if things don't look good and we trade down he could be there.
If he does come out.....what would you guys think? not sure i'm willing to spend one of our 1st rounders on him but if things don't look good and we trade down he could be there.
What do you see him as? Pretty much everybody is saying he's not NFL ready, so are you willing to spend a 2nd rounder on a project QB? Similarly big-armed, big bodied QBs like Mettenberger and Logan Thomas went in the 6th last time.
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Another thing to consider is right now his stock is as high as it will possibly get. Once the formal draft process begins and the high of the championship wears off his stock will fall some, at least in my opinion. I'd be shocked if he does go despite his upside if he went in the first four rounds.
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Another thing to consider is right now his stock is as high as it will possibly get. Once the formal draft process begins and the high of the championship wears off his stock will fall some, at least in my opinion. I'd be shocked if he does go despite his upside if he went in the first four rounds.
Another thing to consider is right now his stock is as high as it will possibly get. Once the formal draft process begins and the high of the championship wears off his stock will fall some
Id agree with this......
Soon, all the draft publications will come out....opinions will start flying....."media babes" will be born ....and good players(today) will evolve into sure fire superstars by draft time....book it!
and some freak(maybe Cardale) will run really fast and jump really high at the combine and suddenly become the best prospect ever.....
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Another thing to consider is right now his stock is as high as it will possibly get. Once the formal draft process begins and the high of the championship wears off his stock will fall some
Id agree with this......
Soon, all the draft publications will come out....opinions will start flying....."media babes" will be born ....and good players(today) will evolve into sure fire superstars by draft time....book it!
and some freak(maybe Cardale) will run really fast and jump really high at the combine and suddenly become the best prospect ever.....
Id agree with this......
Soon, all the draft publications will come out....opinions will start flying....."media babes" will be born ....and good players(today) will evolve into sure fire superstars by draft time....book it!
and some freak(maybe Cardale) will run really fast and jump really high at the combine and suddenly become the best prospect ever.....
I do wonder though, how many QBs have such a small, but high profile sample set? Tannehill was considered risky because he only had 17(?) starts, Jones only has 3. Objectively, I'd like to see him transfer because presumably he won't beat out both Miller and Barrett for the starting gig, and he really needs some game time to showcase his ability.
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Id agree with this......
Soon, all the draft publications will come out....opinions will start flying....."media babes" will be born ....and good players(today) will evolve into sure fire superstars by draft time....book it!
and some freak(maybe Cardale) will run really fast and jump really high at the combine and suddenly become the best prospect ever.....
I do wonder though, how many QBs have such a small, but high profile sample set? Tannehill was considered risky because he only had 17(?) starts, Jones only has 3. Objectively, I'd like to see him transfer because presumably he won't beat out both Miller and Barrett for the starting gig, and he really needs some game time to showcase his ability.
I do wonder though, how many QBs have such a small, but high profile sample set? Tannehill was considered risky because he only had 17(?) starts, Jones only has 3. Objectively, I'd like to see him transfer because presumably he won't beat out both Miller and Barrett for the starting gig, and he really needs some game time to showcase his ability.
Yep....I think a transfer is in his best interest. ....he could and should go to an FCS school to play another year.....heck, he could even go DIV 2 now, because no matter where he goes, they will all be watching very closely....
He has to declare by tomorrow, so we will know soon enough if this discussion is even relevant right now.....
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I do wonder though, how many QBs have such a small, but high profile sample set? Tannehill was considered risky because he only had 17(?) starts, Jones only has 3. Objectively, I'd like to see him transfer because presumably he won't beat out both Miller and Barrett for the starting gig, and he really needs some game time to showcase his ability.
Yep....I think a transfer is in his best interest. ....he could and should go to an FCS school to play another year.....heck, he could even go DIV 2 now, because no matter where he goes, they will all be watching very closely....
He has to declare by tomorrow, so we will know soon enough if this discussion is even relevant right now.....
Yep....I think a transfer is in his best interest. ....he could and should go to an FCS school to play another year.....heck, he could even go DIV 2 now, because no matter where he goes, they will all be watching very closely....
He has to declare by tomorrow, so we will know soon enough if this discussion is even relevant right now.....
He surely won't declare?
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Yep....I think a transfer is in his best interest. ....he could and should go to an FCS school to play another year.....heck, he could even go DIV 2 now, because no matter where he goes, they will all be watching very closely....
He has to declare by tomorrow, so we will know soon enough if this discussion is even relevant right now.....
He surely won't declare?
He surely won't declare?
I have no idea what he'll do.....it's a HUGE decision for a kid to make on such short notice.....just a month ago this wasn't even a glimmer of a possibility for him, so you know his head is spinning from all the attention and opinions.....
Personally, if I was E. Meyer, Id be starting him next season and would be telling him that. My thinking is that, even as good as Barrett and Miller were, Cardale proved he could win it all and be a championship QB.....while the other 2 are still just potential winners.....
I doubt Meyer does that....but, I would.....
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Cardale had the #2 job won in spring ball over JT.
The reason he didn't get the start against Navy is that his bad decision-making was worse than the other 2. However, Cardale's highs.. are so much higher than anything JT or Braxton could ever do. In other words, Cardale's variance is greater at this point.. and if he works on being consistent in the offseason, Cardale is the obvious and only starting choice.
Cardale is a more accurate Cam Newton.
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he may be on the same intellectual level as Leon Spinks but it might be a wise decision, depending on how the rankings shape up, to declare and take the money now. No idea what could happen over the course of the season next year. And a first round or a second round rookie contract is guaranteed for a while, right? It's not like he's going to finish his degree and take over the job of chief of staff at the Cleveland Clinic.
WSS
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Cardale reversed is Eladrac
name contains 7 letters - 42.86% vowels and 57.14% consonants.
Anagrams: Craedla Daralec Daacelr Cadreal Aredlac
Misspells: Cordale Caldale Carrdale Cardalea Cradale Cardael Cardlae
Rhymes: Airedale Bloomingdale Chippendale Clydesdale Glendale Mondale Scottsdale curtail gunwale bobtail carrell detail
Meaning of this name is unknown.Famous people: John Bate Cardale, Paul Cardale, Effie Julia Margaret Cardale
Writers: Marianne Cardale Schrimpff, John Bate Cardale
Usage: 34% firstname, 66% surname.
Cardale first name was found 43 times in 2 different countries. (USA,UK)
Surname Cardale is used at least 81 times in at least 3 countries. -
Cardale reversed is Eladrac
name contains 7 letters - 42.86% vowels and 57.14% consonants.
Anagrams: Craedla Daralec Daacelr Cadreal Aredlac
Misspells: Cordale Caldale Carrdale Cardalea Cradale Cardael Cardlae
Rhymes: Airedale Bloomingdale Chippendale Clydesdale Glendale Mondale Scottsdale curtail gunwale bobtail carrell detail
Meaning of this name is unknown.Famous people: John Bate Cardale, Paul Cardale, Effie Julia Margaret Cardale
Writers: Marianne Cardale Schrimpff, John Bate Cardale
Usage: 34% firstname, 66% surname.
Cardale first name was found 43 times in 2 different countries. (USA,UK)
Surname Cardale is used at least 81 times in at least 3 countries.Cardale reversed is Eladrac
name contains 7 letters - 42.86% vowels and 57.14% consonants.
Anagrams: Craedla Daralec Daacelr Cadreal Aredlac
Misspells: Cordale Caldale Carrdale Cardalea Cradale Cardael Cardlae
Rhymes: Airedale Bloomingdale Chippendale Clydesdale Glendale Mondale Scottsdale curtail gunwale bobtail carrell detail
Meaning of this name is unknown.
Famous people: John Bate Cardale, Paul Cardale, Effie Julia Margaret Cardale
Writers: Marianne Cardale Schrimpff, John Bate Cardale
Usage: 34% firstname, 66% surname.
Cardale first name was found 43 times in 2 different countries. (USA,UK)
Surname Cardale is used at least 81 times in at least 3 countries.
Thanks, Gippipedia.
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Cardale reversed is Eladrac
name contains 7 letters - 42.86% vowels and 57.14% consonants.
Anagrams: Craedla Daralec Daacelr Cadreal Aredlac
Misspells: Cordale Caldale Carrdale Cardalea Cradale Cardael Cardlae
Rhymes: Airedale Bloomingdale Chippendale Clydesdale Glendale Mondale Scottsdale curtail gunwale bobtail carrell detail
Meaning of this name is unknown.
Famous people: John Bate Cardale, Paul Cardale, Effie Julia Margaret Cardale
Writers: Marianne Cardale Schrimpff, John Bate Cardale
Usage: 34% firstname, 66% surname.
Cardale first name was found 43 times in 2 different countries. (USA,UK)
Surname Cardale is used at least 81 times in at least 3 countries.
Thanks, Gippipedia.
Thanks, Gippipedia.
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Hard to think of a bolder move than making Jones a #1. Maybe it is time.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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I think Cardale will win the starting job next year, and JT will sit.
Cardale had the backup job won after spring ball, but coaches weren't satisfied with his inconsistency.. his highs were well above anything JT or BM could do, but he made a lot of dumb decisions.
Cardale got married and had a kid earlier this year, and that matured him a lot.
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Aside from the height and weight, the only comparison I accurately see assessed in relation to him being like JaMarcus or Ben is that all 3 of them had a tendency to hold onto the ball too long in the early portions of their careers.
Russell obviously being the worst offender.
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Id agree with this......
Soon, all the draft publications will come out....opinions will start flying....."media babes" will be born ....and good players(today) will evolve into sure fire superstars by draft time....book it!
and some freak(maybe Cardale) will run really fast and jump really high at the combine and suddenly become the best prospect ever.....
I do wonder though, how many QBs have such a small, but high profile sample set? Tannehill was considered risky because he only had 17(?) starts, Jones only has 3. Objectively, I'd like to see him transfer because presumably he won't beat out both Miller and Barrett for the starting gig, and he really needs some game time to showcase his ability.
I do wonder though, how many QBs have such a small, but high profile sample set? Tannehill was considered risky because he only had 17(?) starts, Jones only has 3. Objectively, I'd like to see him transfer because presumably he won't beat out both Miller and Barrett for the starting gig, and he really needs some game time to showcase his ability.
I've seen 90% of Miller's and Barrett's starts, and all of Cardale's. I have a strong suspicion Meyer is going to tell Braxton to switch to wr, because his pro potential as a qb is even less than Troy Smith's- he's too fragile. IMHO, he has no chance at beating out the other two.
I have no idea what he'll do.....it's a HUGE decision for a kid to make on such short notice.....just a month ago this wasn't even a glimmer of a possibility for him, so you know his head is spinning from all the attention and opinions.....
Personally, if I was U. Meyer, Id be starting him next season and would be telling him that. My thinking is that, even as good as Barrett and Miller were, Cardale proved he could win it all and be a championship QB.....while the other 2 are still just potential winners.....
I doubt Meyer does that....but, I would.....
Your thought about Jones transferring to a D II school is interesting Mud. It certainly didn't hurt Flacco. Doubtless based on his performance in the last three games, every pro scout will be watching him like a hawk. Supposedly Meyer is going to sit down today with Cardale and give him his 0.02 as to what he thinks he should do.
And if the three headed quarterback monster wasn't enough- Urban has this guy waiting in the wings. http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2014/11/five-star_qb_torrance_gibson_c.html#incart_m-rpt-1
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from my uninformed and pedestrian view I would find it hard to start anyone over Cardale Jones next year. I think he has turned in some amazing performances.
One would certainly understand the disappointment of the guys ahead of him but this isn't Pee Wee league.
that being said he doesn't seem like the kind of person who would hesitate to jump ship at the end of next season.
WSS
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