Browns Dysfunctional ....again?
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true fans of the browns don't see this as dysfunction at all considering all the points Z illuminated.
best record since '97 with scrubs? c'mon now.
people have every right to their opinion but to constantly rail on the negatives and proclaim shit that just isn't true (baconhound).....don't be surprised when the whole power of the browns' fanbase comes down on you.
as far as i'm concerned, if you are such a little bitch and whiner to be declaring this such a woeful season and this organization such a bunch of bums, then how did you make it past the year 2k without hanging yourself in your closet?
true fans of the browns don't see this as dysfunction at all considering all the points Z illuminated.
best record since '97 with scrubs? c'mon now.
people have every right to their opinion but to constantly rail on the negatives and proclaim shit that just isn't true (baconhound).....don't be surprised when the whole power of the browns' fanbase comes down on you.
as far as i'm concerned, if you are such a little bitch and whiner to be declaring this such a woeful season and this organization such a bunch of bums, then how did you make it past the year 2k without hanging yourself in your closet?
10-6 in 2007 do you even pay attention?
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true fans of the browns don't see this as dysfunction at all considering all the points Z illuminated.
best record since '97 with scrubs? c'mon now.
people have every right to their opinion but to constantly rail on the negatives and proclaim shit that just isn't true (baconhound).....don't be surprised when the whole power of the browns' fanbase comes down on you.
as far as i'm concerned, if you are such a little bitch and whiner to be declaring this such a woeful season and this organization such a bunch of bums, then how did you make it past the year 2k without hanging yourself in your closet?
people have every right to their opinion but to constantly rail on the negatives and proclaim shit that just isn't true (baconhound).....don't be surprised when the whole power of the browns' fanbase comes down on you.
as far as i'm concerned, if you are such a little bitch and whiner to be declaring this such a woeful season and this organization such a bunch of bums, then how did you make it past the year 2k without hanging yourself in your closet?
Exactly...
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Dude you are one of the sane ones around here but last division won 1989, last playoff game 2002. This team has been over .500 twice in the last 15 years, they suck. The direction is circling the drain, this is the first time in 5 years I haven't made the trek from NY to Ohio to watch a game because I can't in good conscience go and support what can only be described as a clusterfuck of an organization. The 49ers just parted ways with a coach who took them to 3 straight conference championship games and a Super Bowl. Somehow the Browns continue to draw fans despite complete and total failure. I described to a friend being a Browns fan means you eat dog food and act like you're being served filet.
And yet you assears are still here. Go jump on the bandwagon of some other team then. I, as a Browns fan, don't want your sorry negative ass here anyways. Piss off and take the other negative asswipes with you. We'll save room for you on the bandwagon when we're in the playoffs next year.
And yet you assears are still here. Go jump on the bandwagon of some other team then. I, as a Browns fan, don't want your sorry negative ass here anyways. Piss off and take the other negative asswipes with you. We'll save room for you on the bandwagon when we're in the playoffs next year.
Put your paypal where you mouth is
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true fans of the browns don't see this as dysfunction at all considering all the points Z illuminated.
best record since '97 with scrubs? c'mon now.
people have every right to their opinion but to constantly rail on the negatives and proclaim shit that just isn't true (baconhound).....don't be surprised when the whole power of the browns' fanbase comes down on you.
as far as i'm concerned, if you are such a little bitch and whiner to be declaring this such a woeful season and this organization such a bunch of bums, then how did you make it past the year 2k without hanging yourself in your closet?
10-6 in 2007 do you even pay attention?
10-6 in 2007 do you even pay attention?
Didn't make the playoffs and fell off a cliff the very next year.
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And yet you assears are still here. Go jump on the bandwagon of some other team then. I, as a Browns fan, don't want your sorry negative ass here anyways. Piss off and take the other negative asswipes with you. We'll save room for you on the bandwagon when we're in the playoffs next year.
Put your paypal where you mouth is
Put your paypal where you mouth is
Ooooohhhhh...an internet tough guy who wants to "bet". Get Rich4Eagle to pay Zombo the $1500+ that he owes from their "bet" and we can talk assears. Otherwise, you're just a pissant negative nancy who gets off doing nothing but bitching all the time. Mik was right...maybe you should just hang yourself in the closet to save yourself from your own miserable life.
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Put your paypal where you mouth is
Ooooohhhhh...an internet tough guy who wants to "bet". Get Rich4Eagle to pay Zombo the $1500+ that he owes from their "bet" and we can talk assears. Otherwise, you're just a pissant negative nancy who gets off doing nothing but bitching all the time. Mik was right...maybe you should just hang yourself in the closet to save yourself from your own miserable life.
Ooooohhhhh...an internet tough guy who wants to "bet". Get Rich4Eagle to pay Zombo the $1500+ that he owes from their "bet" and we can talk assears. Otherwise, you're just a pissant negative nancy who gets off doing nothing but bitching all the time. Mik was right...maybe you should just hang yourself in the closet to save yourself from your own miserable life.
Not an internet tough guy by any stretch just like easy money. The Browns are the 3rd best team in their division at best next year and they play the NFC West and AFC West next year.
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Ooooohhhhh...an internet tough guy who wants to "bet". Get Rich4Eagle to pay Zombo the $1500+ that he owes from their "bet" and we can talk assears. Otherwise, you're just a pissant negative nancy who gets off doing nothing but bitching all the time. Mik was right...maybe you should just hang yourself in the closet to save yourself from your own miserable life.
Not an internet tough guy by any stretch just like easy money. The Browns are the 3rd best team in their division at best next year and they play the NFC West and AFC West next year.
Not an internet tough guy by any stretch just like easy money. The Browns are the 3rd best team in their division at best next year and they play the NFC West and AFC West next year.
I'm not making any bets with you dickless... If it makes you feel smart and important to post all your negative shit every day, then you truly have a sad and pathetic life.
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true fans of the browns don't see this as dysfunction at all considering all the points Z illuminated.
best record since '97 with scrubs? c'mon now.
people have every right to their opinion but to constantly rail on the negatives and proclaim shit that just isn't true (baconhound).....don't be surprised when the whole power of the browns' fanbase comes down on you.
as far as i'm concerned, if you are such a little bitch and whiner to be declaring this such a woeful season and this organization such a bunch of bums, then how did you make it past the year 2k without hanging yourself in your closet?
10-6 in 2007 do you even pay attention?
10-6 in 2007 do you even pay attention?
yeah i meant 2007.
dyslexia is a terrible disease. trick or trout?
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The worst franchise in professional sports
Redskins hold that title.
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Not an internet tough guy by any stretch just like easy money. The Browns are the 3rd best team in their division at best next year and they play the NFC West and AFC West next year.
I'm not making any bets with you dickless... If it makes you feel smart and important to post all your negative shit every day, then you truly have a sad and pathetic life.
I'm not making any bets with you dickless... If it makes you feel smart and important to post all your negative shit every day, then you truly have a sad and pathetic life.
Yeah, exactly what I thought. Don't mistake realism for negativity, it's a much more positive place in the Yankees forum
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I'm not making any bets with you dickless... If it makes you feel smart and important to post all your negative shit every day, then you truly have a sad and pathetic life.
Yeah, exactly what I thought. Don't mistake realism for negativity, it's a much more positive place in the Yankees forum
it's a much more positive place in the Yankees forum
i doubt it. not fickle ny fans. they will amount to a hill of beans this year so there's probably dozens of baconhounds over there spouting 'the woe is me, the sky is falling' dribble.
you mentioned the fact that we have a tough schedule next year...SO? what do you want to do petition the nfl for a softer one? way to be a man and face your challenges.
what kind of bet do you want to make? i got a six pack that says you're wrong.
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One Mary Kay article which is all conjecture with no named sources and we're "disfunctional" again.
Horseshit.
We had one of the Browns VPs join us at our last Browns Backer game against Baltimore. Real cool guy, real high on the chain. I got to talk with him one on one for a bit and he talked to the group as a whole too.
He said the #1 thing the Browns set out to do this year was to not only change the culture, but to set the culture, because we haven't had one in 15 years.
He said Jimmy is as passionate and smart a owner as you would want. He said Farmer is large and in charge ... speaks with authority, has the respect of everyone in the building. Coach Pettine is exactly what they want, and he is in't going anywhere.
He said on past teams you wouldn't even hear about Gordon, Gilbert and Manziel because the team catered to the players, but it is all about the team now, and you are all in, or you are gone.
He seemed to think Manziel was going to be fine. He basically said he was a "spoiled rich kid, and some things need to change" but that he can be very, very good. It sounded like the organization was committed to him for next year, however if the "things that need to change" involve alcohol, good luck with that.
Overall he stressed over and over that it is a streamlined chain of command and it's not changing, Jimmy is going with these guys.
So if Shanny is really sniffling, he'll be gone. If we re-commit to Shanny then this was just a bullshit story. I really wish we could trade MK to Pittsburgh.
Zombo
Zombo said:
We had one of the Browns VPs join us at our last Browns Backer game against Baltimore.
I feel like I know a guy who has an unnamed source.
No....people started speculating it was jimmy, so she came out and said it wasn't....
People like Wilbon and Kornheiser... they've been skewering us...
I mean seriously he's going to Buffalo with his hat in his hand and their best hope is to pick up Brian Hoyer in a bidding war.
Wouldn't their reuniting be a kick in the nads...
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Meanwhile back at the thread...
The fact that an employee or two went rogue and overstepped their bounds by making comments or suggesting plays is not the measure of an organization's functionality.
The duration of the overstepping may be a measure and therefore a concern.
However, how the above are addressed and how well any fix prevents recurrence will be the true measure of how "dysfunctional" the Browns' organization may be.
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LOL! Now that there is funny, I don't care where you stand on all this.
:lol:Hey Z, I'm a Denver fan so am I still eligible? Bring it.
No, you are too damn likeable
You bastard.
Here are Knobslobber's words upon reading the news of Shanny leaving, unedited:
"Browns are a mess. Makes me ask the question, is Pettine an issue too?
Manziel having to learn a new offense is not good. His greatest supporters are gone."
1. Call the entire organization a mess
2. Question the head coach who has been on the job less than a year.
3. Worry for Johnny's future
4. Wonder who has Johnny's back
This is a fucking Cleveland Browns forum. Built by, and run by, passionate Cleveland Browns fans. And I'm getting a hard time for giving this motherfucker a hard time?
Ghoolie v Rich
Atenears v Zombo
Camp Couch v Dark Side
Quinn fags v DA lovers
We used to rip the shit out of each other, But we were family.
Hell, more recently Tourma v. Mike H,, Everyone v Retard, Miktoxic v Sober people, Walter White v drug-free people ... great stuff. when did we become such pussies that I have to feel bad about picking on the Cowboy douchebag? It's "abuse of power" because I'm a moderator?
No, it's "abuse of a dipshit" because I'm a Browns fan and I don't put up with shitheads who have an agenda outside of the family.
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LOL! Now that there is funny, I don't care where you stand on all this.
:lol:Hey Z, I'm a Denver fan so am I still eligible? Bring it.
No, you are too damn likeable
You bastard.
Here are Knobslobber's words upon reading the news of Shanny leaving, unedited:
"Browns are a mess. Makes me ask the question, is Pettine an issue too?
Manziel having to learn a new offense is not good. His greatest supporters are gone."
1. Call the entire organization a mess
2. Question the head coach who has been on the job less than a year.
3. Worry for Johnny's future
4. Wonder who has Johnny's back
This is a fucking Cleveland Browns forum. Built by, and run by, passionate Cleveland Browns fans. And I'm getting a hard time for giving this motherfucker a hard time?
Ghoolie v Rich
Atenears v Zombo
Camp Couch v Dark Side
Quinn fags v DA lovers
We used to rip the shit out of each other, But we were family.
Hell, more recently Tourma v. Mike H,, Everyone v Retard, Miktoxic v Sober people, Walter White v drug-free people ... great stuff. when did we become such pussies that I have to feel bad about picking on the Cowboy douchebag? It's "abuse of power" because I'm a moderator?
No, it's "abuse of a dipshit" because I'm a Browns fan and I don't put up with shitheads who have an agenda outside of the family.
Zombo said:
Miktoxic v Sober people, when did we become such pussies that I have to feel bad about picking on the Cowboy douchebag?
it'd help that the people that i have such problems with (opinion-wise) were old enough to have a drink. maybe their balls and voices would drop at the same time in a year or two. must be a bitch getting in a verbal tiff when you go through life sounding like screech or haley joel osment.
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Once again, back to the thread: Dysfunction suggests (and It could be way off base) that there is a lack of clear roles & responsibilities and/or a difference of opinion on important matters or philosophies. That engenders a lack of trust, the splitting of the team into different fractions or allegiances, internal conflict, backstabbing etc. if that's not happening, then McK had no business using the word or quoting some source that used that word. That would be irresponsible reporting. On the other, if that is the case, then I'll be disappointed because I really agree with Zombo, the culture (minus our first round draft choices and JG) was really starting to change for the better.
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@junkyard-dawg said:
Hi PGL, why the name change?
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